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Please can you help me find any one related to Mary Ann Packman who gave birth to my great grandmother in Eliza Packman in February 1849 in the workhouse Willerborough I would like to find out who her mother was. Or does she have any brothers or sisters.
I hope some body has some information.
Many thanks Dianne Payne nee Duncan

Perhaps she was unsure of her birth year? Or she was baptised a wee while after her birth?

Name: Mary Anne Packman
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 19 Jul 1829
Baptism Place: Chilham,Kent,England
Father: Richard Packman
Mother: Elizabeth
FHL Film Number: 924168

Name: Eliza Packman
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 11 Mar 1849
Christening Place: Willesborough, Kent, England
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Packman
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04778-5 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1835834 , Reference ID: item 1 p 75 no 600

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Name: Mary Ann Packman
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 29 Jan 1826
Christening Place: Hernhill, Kent, England
Father's Name: George Packman
Mother's Name: Hannah Packman
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I00888-6 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 1786549

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Name: Robert Stephen Harris
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Packman
Event Date: 12 Oct 1856
Event Place: Hernhill, Kent, England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I01257-9 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1836276 , Reference ID: items 1-13

Different birth place for the Mary Ann who married Robert Harris?

1861

Name: Mary Ann Harris
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: 1825
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robt Harris
Gender: Female
Where born: Boughton, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Seasalter
Town: Whitstable
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Blean
Sub-registration district: Whitstable
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 17
Piece: 524
Folio: 111
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Robt Harris 37
Mary Ann Harris 36
Ann Maria Harris 16
Roseana Harris 12
Alf John Harris 9
Julia Harris 7
Fredk Harris 4

Baptism
First name(s) William Frederick
Last name Packman
Baptism year 1867
Baptism day 13
Baptism Month Feb
Relationship Son of
Father's first name(s)
Mother's first name(s) Susanna
Residence East Ashford Union
Notes S.Woman
Place Willesborough
County Kent
Record source Willesborough baptisms 1538-1911

Baptism
First name(s) Eliza
Last name Packman
Baptism year 1849
Baptism day 11
Baptism Month Mar
Relationship Daughter of
Father's first name(s)
Mother's first name(s) Mary Ann
Residence E. A. Union Workhouse
Notes S.Woman
Place Willesborough

(just her and other for Willesborough (Find My Past)

Chris :)

Hello Dianne and welcome to the Community boards.




(I'll let Dianne know how to find her replies) :-)

Thank you for the information on Mary Ann Packman 1849 My great grandmother is Eliza Packman. Can you go any further back Please.

Hello Dianne,

To be honest, it's really easier for us if you stay by your computer and watch for replies as they can come back very quickly. If you notice, you received the first reply just 5 minutes after you had posted your query.

To go any further back, you can have a look at the free site which AnnCardiff has used.......freesearch.org

It's also useful to google family names and places to see where records are held.

Hope this helps.

Thank you. I still don't really Know what the procedure is. I will give it another try.

Possible sibling for the Mary Anne born in Chilham

Name: John Packman
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 2 Apr 1826
Baptism Place: Chilham, Kent, England
Father: Richard Packman
Mother: Elizabeth Packman
FHL Film Number: 1786276
Reference ID: Page 0

Marriage

Name: Richard Packman
Event Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 20 Jan 1828
Marriage Place: Kent
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Hadlow

Looking at the image, I think Richard was a widower and Elizabeth a single woman. The witnesses were Wm. Hadlow and John(?, sorry can't make out his surname)

Right, forget the above. Looks like the Mary Anne baptised in Chilham in 1829 died.

Name: Mary Anne Packman
Gender: Female
Burial Date: 19 Jul 1829
Burial Place: Chilham, Kent, England
Father: Richard Packman
Mother: Elizabeth Packman
FHL Film Number: 1786276
Reference ID: Page 0

Wonder if Mary Ann married?

1861

Eliza Hoar
AGE: 12
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: 1849
RELATION: Daughter
FATHER'S NAME: Charles Hoar
MOTHER'S NAME: Mary Hoar
GENDER: Female
WHERE BORN: Willesborough, Kent, England
CIVIL PARISH: Chilham
COUNTY/ISLAND: Kent
COUNTRY: England
STREET ADDRESS:

OCCUPATION:

CONDITION AS TO MARRIAGE:

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REGISTRATION DISTRICT: East Ashford
SUB-REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Wye
ED, INSTITUTION, OR VESSEL: 9
NEIGHBORS: View others on page
HOUSEHOLD SCHEDULE NUMBER: 100
PIECE: 516
FOLIO: 121
PAGE NUMBER: 20
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:
NAME AGE
Charles Hoar 45
Mary Hoar 35
Eliza Hoar 12
Patient A Hoar 9
George Hoar 7
William Hoar 6
Sarah E Hoar 2
Susan Hoar 0

The above census looks hopeful?

Marriage certificate would give Mary Ann's father's name and occupation.

Name: Charles Ralph Hoar
Registration Year: 1851
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: East Ashford
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 5
Page: 13


Records on Page:
Name
Thomas Beaney
Mary Dale
Charles Ralph Hoar
Mary Ann Packham <<<<<<<<<<
Emma Frances Philpot
Joseph Thomas Redding
William Rowland Stephens
William Rowland Stevens
Harriet Pullen Wills

1871

Name: Mary Hore
[Mary Hoare]
[Mary Hoar]
[Mary Hoar]
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Charles Hore
Gender: Female
Where born: Chilham, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Chilham
Ecclesiastical parish: Canterbury
Town: Monkton Street
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: East Ashford
Sub-registration district: Wye
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 39
Piece: 963
Folio: 19
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Hore 56
Mary Hore 43
William Hore 15
Henry F Hore 7
Chas Hore 2
Elizabeth Hore 22
Sarah Hore 12
Susannah Hore 10
Matilda Hore 4

1881

Name: Mary Ann Hoar
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: Charles Hoar
Gender: Female
Where born: Chilham, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Chilham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: Mountain St
Marital Status: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: East Ashford
Sub registration district: Wye
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 952
Folio: 27
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Hoar 65
Mary Ann Hoar 53
Sarah Elizabeth Hoar 22
Susan Hoar 20
Henry Fredk. Hoar 17
Rose Matilda Hoar 14
Charles Hoar 12
Walter John Hoar 9
Pilcher George Ditcher 33
Stephen Cloke 25


1891

Name: Mary A Hoar
Age: 63
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Charles Hoar
Gender: Female
Where born: Chilham, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Chilham
Ecclesiastical parish: Chilham
Town: Monkton
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: East Ashford
Sub registration district: Wye
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 703
Folio: 98
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Hoar 73
Mary A Hoar 63
Walter I Hoar 19

Maybe?

Name: Mary Ann Hoare
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Registration Year: 1898
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 69
Registration district: East Ashford
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 588