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1901/11 lookup please

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Ed

Ed Report 16 Dec 2014 22:05

Not sure why you want to combine a search for Ann circa 1861 East Yorkshire with 1911 census search for Thomas Henry in North Yorkshire. Ann very likely dead before Thomas Henry was born. The two only very distantly related.

Ann was a spinster in 1851 so if she married she would not be a Pickering in 1861.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 16 Dec 2014 21:03

or ????????????

Name: Ann Puckering
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1861
Gender: Female
Age: 58
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Birthplace: Garton, Yorkshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Hull
Sub-District: 3 Myton
Parish: Holy Trinity
Residence County: Yorkshire (East Riding)

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 16 Dec 2014 21:02

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Name: Ann Pickering
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1861
Gender: Female
Age: 59
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Birthplace: Beverley, Yorkshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Hull
Sub-District: 1 Humber
Parish: Holy Trinity
Residence County: Yorkshire (East Riding)

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 16 Dec 2014 20:57

you can delete the new thread now Ed and carry on with this one


Trying to trace Ann has been an exercise in futility. She was born 1802 in Leven East Yorkshire. In 1851 she is living with her mother Ann in Hull. The mother dies 1852 Hull and Ann reports the death. Then she disappears. She does not show up in 1861/71 census.She is not the Ann Pickering who died 1855 Sculcoates, 1858 Sculcoates, 1863 Hull, 1866 Driffield or 1870 Sculcoates. There are a few marriages which I also attempted to check via 1861/71 census but those that I could find were not her.

Suggestions what to try next?

Ed

Ed Report 15 Dec 2014 21:47

Thanks for the census info. I had a quick look for possible deaths. Certainly lots to choose from. I guess that is what happens with common names.

Ed

Dea

Dea Report 15 Dec 2014 18:01

Nudge up for Ed !!

Dea x

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 15 Dec 2014 11:10

Maybe Ruth's mother?

1881

Name: Margaret Jane Crudace
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: Robert Crudace
Mother: Maryann Crudace
Gender: Female
Where born: Bishopton, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Bishopton
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Stockton
Sub registration district: Sedgefield
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4902
Folio: 74
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Crudace 48
Maryann Crudace 54
Margaret Jane Crudace 13

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 15 Dec 2014 10:47

1891

Name: Ruth Cruddace
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Granddaughter
Father's Name: James Cruddace
Gender: Female
Where born: Bishopton, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Bishopton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Bishopton
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Stockton
Sub registration district: Sedgefield
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4056
Folio: 16
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Cruddace 59
Mary A Cruddace 64
James Cruddace 24
Ruth Cruddace 3

1901


Name: Ruth Cruddace
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Bishopton, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Bishopton
Ecclesiastical parish: Bishopton
Town: Bishopton
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Sedgefield
Sub-registration district: Sedgefield
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4631
Folio: 73
Page Number: 4
Household schedule number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Walden 60
Mary Jane Walden 63
Evelian M Brown 2
Ruth Cruddace 13

Dea

Dea Report 15 Dec 2014 08:25

FreeBMD has it mistranscribed as this:

Births Sep 1887
CRUDALE Ruth Stockton 10a 92

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 15 Dec 2014 08:20

Birth reg:


CRUDACE Ruth Stockton.10a 92 Q3 1887

Dea x

Ed

Ed Report 14 Dec 2014 22:15

Thanks for the additional info.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 14 Dec 2014 20:17

Amazon.com : Cruddace Brief History Origin & Coat of Arms ...


amazon.com/Cruddace-Brief-History-Origin-Family/dp/B0087OOJ1M

Amazon.com : Cruddace Brief History Origin & Coat of Arms Family Crest : Etchings Prints : Everything Else

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 14 Dec 2014 20:16

Last name: Cruddace


This interesting and unusual name of Medieval Scottish origin is a phonetic variant of the locational name Carruthers, itself from lands in the parish of Middlebie, Dumfriesshire, and pronounced in local speech "Cridders". the derivation of this surname is from the British (pre Roman) "ker", or the welsh "caer", meaning a fort, with a personal name, composed of the elements "red" and "ruler" possible "fort of Rydderch" the King Roderc of Adamnan. The family of Carruthers were in the thirteenth Century Stewards of Annandale, under the Bruces. Locational surnames were developed when former inhabitants of a place moved to another area, usually to seek work, and were best identified by the name of their birthplace. The name is recorded circa 1350 as "Caer Ruther", and the modern variants include Crothers, Carrodus, Cardis, Cruddace, and Caruth. One Bertha Cruddas is recorded in 1888, (Bardsley). The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of Simon Carruthers, (parson), which was dated 1278, in Middlebie, Dumfreishire, Scotland, during the reign of King Alexander 111, known as "King of Scotland", 1249 - 1286. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was known as Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling.

Read more: http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Cruddace#ixzz3LuB7izmV

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 14 Dec 2014 20:10

Name: George E Pickering
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1911
Registration District: Stokesley
County: Yorkshire
Event Place: Stokesley, Yorkshire, England
Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3): Cruddace
Volume: 9D
Page: 1297
Line Number: 138

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 14 Dec 2014 20:10

Name: Thomas W Pickering
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1915
Registration District: Stokesley
County: Yorkshire
Event Place: Stokesley, Yorkshire, England
Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3): Cruddace
Volume: 9D
Page: 1175
Line Number: 104

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 14 Dec 2014 20:08

Name: Ruth Cruddace
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year: 1906
Registration District: Stokesley
County: Yorkshire
Event Place: Stokesley, Yorkshire, England
Volume: 9D
Page: 1225
Line Number: 309

Ruth Cruddace probably married one of the following people
Name: Thomas Henry Pickering

malyon

malyon Report 14 Dec 2014 19:53

hi
found a birth for ruth cruddace on here genes reunited born 1888 so was young when she married also found her in 1891 and 1901 census she is not listed in births in bdm site.

yvonne

Ed

Ed Report 14 Dec 2014 18:32

Thanks - much appreciated. I had a look for a birth registration for Ruth Cruddace by looking for Ruth Cru* on freebmd but no luck. I guess that she could possibly be a widow. I will send for marriage cert since it appears to be the correct one.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 14 Dec 2014 18:15

Oh not fair, Glitter! How did you beat me that time? I refreshed before I posted and you weren't there!

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 14 Dec 2014 18:13

Possible but gives a different birthplace here:


1911 England Census about Thomas Henry Pickering
Name: Thomas Henry Pickering
Age in 1911: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Yarm On Tees
Civil Parish: Yarm
County/Island: Yorkshire-North Riding
Country: England
Street address: Elliffs Ya Yarm
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: General Labourer
Registration district: Stokesley
Registration District Number: 536
Sub-registration district: Stokesley
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Piece: 29344
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Henry Pickering 34
Robert Henry Pickering 2
Ruth Pickering 24