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Ali ..................


I'm so glad that the Museum Archive department managed to find the clippings for you, and that you now know what happened.



Oldham Local Archives came up trumps for me about 4 years ago when I was trying to find out how my gt grandfather had died in 1877 ............ they found a 2-column report in a little-known very short-lived newspaper when the major paper (still in existence today) had not carried any report :-)


Gt grandfather leaned on the door of the train carriage ............. only to fall out on to the track

The coroner found that there had been negligence on someone's part as the door had not been secured properly from the outside ................ and suggested that the family would have a case if they wished to sue. :-0


I gather the family did not proceed any further ............. presumably because of lack of money.

Thank you all!!!

I contacted Bolton Museum Archive department & they searched the newspapers for me & sent me two clippings of info

It was a very sad read but fantastic to find it, so thank you all for your help

kind regards
alison

try contacting the Local Archives and Study Centre in Bolton .............. Google for address


Ask if they have old newspapers on file, as microfiche or digitised


Give them the details from the death certificate ............ name, date died, where died, date of inquest, name of coroner

Ask if they could please check relevant newspapers to see if there are any articles from the day of his death to 2 weeks AFTER the inquest date.


There may be a charge




You may be lucky, and find a report in a little local paper

Thank you Greyghost for all your help

Not seeing anything on FMP within the newspaper section, but the only Lancashire paper covered appears to be Burnley.

Think you might have to contact local papers - at least with the dates now you can narrow down the look up required.

It seems an awfully short time between the death, registration and burial, the coroner must have got a move on!

Thanks Dea,
was wondering what that meant, we guessed it had something to do with with Cotton Factory's

Self-acting Minder
Self Actor Minder

Watched and minded the 'Self Acting Mule' - the name of a multi thread spinning machine. The original Mule was hand operated and was invented by Samuel Crompton of Bolton in 1779. It was made self-acting by Richard Roberts in 1830.

Dea x

Hi Guys

I sent off for the DEATH CERT & i now have it back, it says

No.....264

When & where died......17th May 1936 The Bolton & Bury Canal, Darcy Lever Bolton UD

Name & Surname......... JOHN SMITH

Sex......Male

Age......62 years

Occupation........Of 19 Cromer Avenue, Tonge, Bolton UD, Self Actor? Action? Winder

Cause of Death.....Self Drowning Whilst temporarily of unsound mind

Signature, description & residence of informant.......Cert received from Harold Fairbrother, Coroner for Bolton, Inquest held 19th may 1936

When reg..........19th May 1936


We have been trying find news clip of this suicide, but can't seem to access

any more help whit this now i have the facts would be very much appreciated

kind regards

alison

Thanks again for all your help with this Dea

Thank you all for trying, what would i ever do without you all

kind regards

alison x

I am back into FMP but the Manchester Library seems to have changed their rules and i cannot access it !!! :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-(

Dea Xxx

Thank you Greyghost

Thank you again Dea x

Thank you Greyghost -I have not been able to get into FMP all day !!!!

Will try another link !

Dea xxx

You would have to send for the death certificate, unlike Scotland they are not on line, but you may find a newspaper report as already suggested. You might be able to ring/email the local records office/local studies office who may (? for a fee) look up in the local papers for you.

Not had a problem with FMP today - and not seeing anything on their newspaper collection site which for Lancashire only appears to cover 1930/31/37/38

Hi Ali -that website is for ALL Smith's - not just the one in the heading

Bless you, thank you Dea x

Manchester Cityy Library has also 'kicked me out' !!!!!!!!!!!!

:-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-(

Dea x

Trying to find newspaper reports on him - Can anyone tell me if FMP is still down??

Dea Xxx

Thanks Claire, if only i lived in Bolton lol!

Ali you may find out more by looking at the local newspapers which are often available at the local library (meaning Bolton)

Thanks Ann but this one defo had children & i've just looked through the link you sent me & i can't find any ref to him at all

Thanks Claire in Wales
yes looks like that's him