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Finding Info On Uncle In New Zealand in 1948

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flowergirl

flowergirl Report 26 Jan 2015 21:44

Hi,
I'm helping my elderly father find relatives and more about his ancestry .Im trying to find out more information on Matthew Thomas Hunt 'Mack' cka Michael who moved to New Zealand in 1948 .He passed away in 1961 .Ive managed to find his last address in New Zealand in Ponsonby ,Auckland and I've ordered a copy of his death certificate .We cannot find any photos of him .Is there any way of finding somebody either in England who knew him before he moved or from New Zealand .He was born in London in 1907 .He was my Dads Uncle .I was hoping that his Death Certificate would help,I thought it would have to be registered by family member/friend but there is none of that on there .

Any ideas would be much appreciated.

Sincere Thanks
flowergirl

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 26 Jan 2015 21:48

Births Sep 1907
HUNT Matthew Thomas St Geo Han Sq 1a 434

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 26 Jan 2015 21:53

Is this the family in 1911?
His place of birth is actually Westminster.

Name: Matthew Hunt
Age in 1911: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1907
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Minster
Civil Parish: Battersea
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 12 Corunna Place, Battersea S W
Registration district: Wandsworth
Registration District Number: 26
Sub-registration district: East Battersea
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Piece: 2168
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Hunt 32
Matthew Hunt 4
Rosie Hunt 13

The head of the family is Matthew Hunt aged 37 whose name has been crossed out, presumably because he wasn't at home.
Matthew and Elizabeth married 15 years, 2 children, both living.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 26 Jan 2015 22:01

According to the passenger list Matthew born 1907 went to New Zealand with his parents Matthew and Elizabeth. Rosie Hunt from the census given in the post above by BeverleyW did not travel with them.

Their last residence in England was Belle Vue, Beech, Alton, Hampshire.

Kath. x

flowergirl

flowergirl Report 26 Jan 2015 22:49

Yeah,thats all correct thankyou all .My Dad lived there and in the house opposite for 72 years bless him .I know 'Mack' Matthew went over to New Zealand with my Great Grandparents ,they came back to England about 8 years later but he stayed in New Zealand . Ive got these amazing negative type photos of my Dad back in 1930s and even my Grandad in 1913 but we cant find any of Mack .

Im trying to work out if there is any way of finding any photos of him ? - and more info too .
This all means a lot to my Dad so Im trying to do what I can . Regarding New Zealand I wonder if there is any way of getting more information /

Thankyou All Flowergirl x


Valerie

Valerie Report 27 Jan 2015 06:46

Hi - the 'National Library of NZ' (Auckland) (on-line) has an 'Ask a Librarian' service. They will check their electoral rolls (past & present) for him - (give them the suburb/date you've mentioned) -they will even check newspaper death notices (1961).
Valerie
WAus

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 27 Jan 2015 07:33

Westminster Baptisms Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) MATTHEW THOMAS
Last name HUNT
Birth year 1907
Birth day 25
Birth month Jul
Baptism year 1907
Baptism day 14
Baptism month Aug
Parish St John the Evangelist, Smith Square
Father's first name(s) Eyra (Ezra)
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth Sarah
County Middlesex
(Abode 71 Millbank Street. Father occ. General Labourer)

Chris :)

Marriages Dec 1895 (>99%)
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George Elizabeth Sarah Lambeth 1d 799
Hunt Ezra Lambeth 1d 799


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 (Ancestry)

Name: Ezra Hunt (Bachelor. Labourer)
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Age: 20
Spouse: Elizabeth Sarah George (Spinster)
Spouse Age: 18
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 21 Dec 1895
Parish: St Andrew, Lambeth
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: Thomas Hunt (Labourer)
Spouse Father: David George (Porter)
(wits. William Samuel Hunt, Charlotte Agnes Hunt. Abode 74 Stamford Street (for both)


Births Jun 1875 (>99%)
-----------------------------------------
Hunt Ezra Lambeth 1d 350


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 (Ancestry)

Name: Eyra Hunt (Ezra)
Baptism Date: 30 Jan 1880
Father's name: Thomas Hunt (Labourer)
Mother's name: Mary Ann Hunt
Parish or Poor Law Union: Lambeth St Mary the Less
(Abode 2 Newport Street, also same time Thomas Hunt)


1901 (Find My Past)
Thomas Hunt Head Married Male 56 1845 Builders Labourer Farringdon, Berkshire, England
Mary A Hunt Wife Married Female 40 1861 - High Cross, Hertfordshire, England
Ezra Hunt Son Married Male 26 1875 Builders Labourer London, England (Waterloo Road)
Thomas Hunt Son Single Male 17 1884 Builders Labourer Lambeth, Surrey, England
Matthew Hunt Son Single Male 15 1886 - Lambeth, Surrey, England
Elizabeth Hunt Daughter-In-Law Married Female 23 1878 - Westminster, Middlesex, England
Ezra J Hunt Son - Male 5 1896 - Westminster, Middlesex, England
Rose H Hunt Daughter - Female 2 1899 - Westminster, Middlesex, England
Sharlotte Hunt Daughter - Female 7 1894 - Lambeth, Surrey, England
William Hunt Son - Male 3 1898 - Lambeth, Surrey, England
Street High Cross
Town High Cross
Parish Standon
County Hertfordshire
Registration district Ware
Archive reference RG13
Piece number 1284
Folio 73
Page 2


Births Sep 1895 (>99%)
-----------------------------------------------
Hunt Ezra J D Westminster * 38


Births Jun 1898 (>99%)
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HUNT Mary Violet R St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 465


Westminster Baptisms Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) MARY VIOLET ROSE
Last name HUNT
Birth year 1898
Birth day 1
Birth month Jun
Baptism year 1898
Baptism day 13
Baptism month Jul
Parish St John the Evangelist, Smith Square
Father's first name(s) Ezra John (Excavator)
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth Sarah
County Middlesex
(Abode 3 Romney Street)


(do you have 1907 Birth Cert. for Matthew?)

flowergirl

flowergirl Report 27 Jan 2015 08:37

Fantastic Thankyou x

They are all part of my Dads family,Ive managed to do quite a lot but things like -there being 2 Matthews 2 Ezras can make it a bit more complicated .

One thing I keep getting stuck on is - Thomas Hunt (b 1845) - he was married to Mary A Hunt - Now, in the 1901 census he is still there with all the children in High Cross Hertfordshire but in the 1911 census his wife Mary A Hunt is living in Mayo Ireland with one of the children plus her Mother In Law Margaret Hunt and it says widowed but I cannot find when or where he died .


I am so appreciative of all of your help ,Im trying to put the pieces of the family puzzle together but sometimes I just get stuck on where to look next .

Thankyou All Flowergirl x

As far as I can work out ,he was my Grandads actual birth father,my Grandad Ezra John Hunt (born 1896) was obviously very young when Thomas Hunt died .He always had Matthew Hunt and Elizabeth Hunt as his 'parents' (they were actually his older brother and sister in law) but Im guessing that they brought him up as they all lived together and my Dad always called them Gran & Grandad Matthew . So I dont know if my Grandad knew Thomas Hunt as a father at all or not .My Dad said Grandad never told them of him or most of the bothers and sisters Ive since seen that he had .

I havent got a birth certificate for Matthew Thomas Hunt yet .Ive found 2 marriages for him ,one which I knew of and the other I didnt - it seems he married a Gwenda M Jones in 1947 in Alton Hampshire so yesterday I tried to find more about that but kept reaching a dead end .
It may sound silly but I would love to get a photo of 'Mack' Matthew Thomas Hunt as he is/was still part of my Dads family .

Gritty

Gritty Report 27 Jan 2015 08:50

Royal Artillery Attestations:

Name: Matthew Thomas Hunt
Age 19
Date of Birth 25th July 1907
Birth place Westminster, London
Trade on Enlistment: Attendant
Service number 1068685
Attestation year 1926
Record set Royal Artillery attestations 1883-1942
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Folkestone, Hythe, Sandgate & Cheriton Herald - Saturday 28 May 1927

"SOLDIERS STEAL OFFICER'S CAR

Pleading guilty to a charge of stealing a two-seater Peugeot car, valued at £165, the property of Lieut. Georgw Ronald Langford Hawkes, Gunners, Cyril Thompson and Matthew Thomas Hunt, of the 87th Battery, R.A. Shorncliffe were sentenced to four months imprisonment with hard labour at Seabrook Police Court on Saturday....They had approximately eleven months service each... to all intents and purposes they had been good soldiers with the exception of the present offence..."
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Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 27 Jan 2015 09:13

Marriage
4545/1912 HUNT EZRA LANE BEATRICE J SYDNEY

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/bdm_fh.html

(above relates to below newspaper article)

http://tinyurl.com/qxvygyr


http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/search?adv=y

(from above)

Chris :)

1875 Ezra Birth Cert. will help with Maiden Name of Mother, in order to find Marriage for Thomas and Mary A., unless you already have.


To see if any other Genes Members are researching names, look to top right of page here, under 'Search' then 'Search All Member Trees'.

edits

Auckland probates
HUNT Matthew Thomas - Auckland - Waterfront Worker ORDER DETAILS »
1961

http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/

(from above)

flowergirl

flowergirl Report 27 Jan 2015 09:49


Wow ,you are all so helpful x

Gritty - how did you find the Royal Artillery info ?- Ive been searching for any forces info as my Dad said he thought Mack was in the Forces .

Chris - With the Auckland probate thing is that something I can order or find more about ? I also wonder whatever happened to any of his belongings - passport,birth cert etc ?

Regarding his birth cert,I do have record of his Christening /baptism and Gran (Elizabeth Sarah ) is down as his mother and Ezra his father which probably is the case but regarding Thomas Hunt Im pretty sure that he was Grandads real Dad .My Dad said he remembers the house in High Cross,Herts from visiting there when he was very small prob mid-late 1930s and he said there was also a John Hunt (Johnnie) who Dad referred to as the other Grandad but again I have no birthdate or any info on him .

Ive also been trying to find information on the other Matthew - Matthew Hunt born Feb 14 1886 - Dad thinks he was in the forces .Dad said He was a boxing champ in the forces so Ive been trying to find anything on him .

Ive got my Grandads passport from 1913 its amazing to see and have old documents .

Thanks Everyone x

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 27 Jan 2015 09:57

You need to look on link given, for Probate ordering details.


Births Mar 1886 (>99%)
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HUNT Mathew Lambeth 1d 363

(as with Ezra 1875, Birth Certs. best way to go!)

Chris :)

(not ignoring, must go now!)

Gritty

Gritty Report 27 Jan 2015 10:06

Royal Navy Seamen 1899-1919 Transcription

First name(s) Matthew
Last name Hunt
Service number 306517
Birth year 1886
Birth date 14 Feb 1886
Birth place Lambeth
Birth county London
Birth country England
Previous Occupation: Farm Labourer
Archive reference ADM 188/500/306517
Record set Royal Navy Seamen 1899-1919

(Original record pm'd)

Gritty

Gritty Report 27 Jan 2015 10:41

Not sure I understand? Is this the 1911 record that you think is Mary Ann? I don't see how it relates to your family- says they're all Roman Catholic born in Mayo??

Residents of a house 10 in Island (Bekan, Mayo)

Hunt Mary 50 Female Head of Family Roman Catholic born: Co Mayo Farmer Widow
Hunt Thomas 28 Male Son Roman Catholic born: Co Mayo Farmers Single
Hunt Margaret 89 Female Mother in Law Roman Catholic born: Co Mayo Cannot read Widow.
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Gritty

Gritty Report 27 Jan 2015 12:29

This is Thomas and Mary Ann in 1911:

Thomas Hunt Head Married 74 1837 Farringdon Berks Former Bricklayers Labourer
Mary Ann Hunt Wife - Female 62 1849 High Cross Herts
William Samuel Hunt Grandson - Male 12 1899 High Cross Herts School
Elizabeth Windmill Boarder - Female 13 1898 Watford Herts School
Alfred Windmill Boarder - Male 10 1901 Watford Herts School
Lily Windmill Boarder - Female 8 1903 Watford Herts School
Harry Windmill Boarder - Male 5 1906 Watford Herts School

Address High Cross Ware Hertfordshire
Parish Standon
County Hertfordshire
Registration district Ware
Registration district number 133
Subdistrict Standon
Subdistrict number 4
Enumeration district 5
Piece number 7490
Schedule number 78
Census reference RG14PN7490 RG78PN364 RD133 SD4 ED5 SN78
Record set 1911 Census for England & Wales

Gritty

Gritty Report 27 Jan 2015 12:53

1861:

Charlotte Hunt 58 Widow Charwoman, Eaton Hastings, Berkshire
Charlotte R Hunt 25 Daughter, Faringdon
Thomas Hunt 24 Son, Labourer, Faringdon
Matthew Hunt 20 Son, Labourer, Faringdon
Ruth A Hunt 18 Dau, Servant, Faringdon
Richard Grunind 21 Visitor, Mason, Oxfordshire

Street Coxwell Street
Parish Great Faringdon
City or borough -
Town Faringdon
County Berkshire
Country England
Municipal ward -
Parliamentary borough -
Hamlet Westbrook
Registration district Faringdon
Enumeration district 3
Piece number 728
Folio number 46
Page number 32

alviegal

alviegal Report 27 Jan 2015 13:05

Re his marriages, a tree on ancestry has this for his wife. They had one child. Perhaps they divorced?



Alice Sarah Levy
Birth 31/10/1906 in Peckham, London
Death 13/04/1952 in Surrey, England

Name: Alice S Hunt
Birth Date: abt 1906
Date of Registration: Jun 1952
Age at Death: 46
Registration district: Surrey North eastern
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 5g
Page: 513



According to this lady, who is looking for info on Alice, they had 2 boys who went to stay with their grandmother after her death.


http://www.jewishtelegraph.com/roots_102.html

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 27 Jan 2015 14:55

Ezra J. Hunt, of Herts, Hertfordshire, England.

Do you have a connection, or the Cert. details for Ezra 1912 NSW Marriage, as above, posted earlier in newspaper article?...

Chris :)

(also below, does it relate, when did he go to Aus. or Death?)


Births Sep 1895 (>99%)
------------------------------------------------
Hunt Ezra J D Westminster * 38


Deaths Jun 1970 (>99%)
-------------------------------------------------------------
HUNT Ezra John D 16Au1895 Alton 6b 135

(as 16 Aug Find My Past)


http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1198324

(Cherilyn on above link, might find more!)

flowergirl

flowergirl Report 27 Jan 2015 17:06

Hi All ,
My Dads family are all from Clapham Junction Battersea SW11 .Ezra JD Hunt is my Grandad he has only lived in London apart from the very early time in High Cross and then Alton Hampshire he died in 1970 .The other Ezra born 1875 is one of his brothers (older) .

alviegal - This lady is my cousin who I met for the first time a few weeks :-) .

gritty - regarding the ireland thing I must have got that mixed up somehow - probably doesnt help that I do most of this during the night when I cant sleep .
Thanks for the Seamen details of my Great Grandad ,thats great I can give those to my Dad .

Ive got Thomas Hunt birth as 1845 which Im sure is right .Ive got Mary A Hunt as birth 1852 .

The 8 High Cross address is the 'early' home of Ezra JD Hunt, in the 1901 census when living there my Grandad Ezra JD was only 5 .

When I was researching a few weeks back I thought I found that Thomas Hunt died in 1903 but I cant remember where I found that ?

Ongoing Thanks Everyone x

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 27 Jan 2015 17:18

So regarding Ezra born 1875 (Father of Matthew Thomas 1907 according to Baptism) where did he go?...(Aus. Marriage 1912, as posted earlier, stated from Hertfordshire, England, bit of a coincidence!) then a Matthew being head of household 1911, where Elizabeth is...

Certs. definitely needed, getting 'muddling'!.

Chris :)

edits

(Father Thomas alive in Herts. 1911, posted above!)


Deaths Mar 1968 (>99%)
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HUNT EZRA 92 WARE 4B 406

(a possible?)