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Looked at the birth for you. Mary Ann Lindsay was born 23 April 1873 at REDFORD, Dysart. She was illegitimate and her mother Elizabeth Lindsay, a Domestic Servant registered the birth..

I think that proves quite conclusively that Mary Ann gave her uncle's name and occupation as that of her father.

I will try to send you the birth registration by PM.

Yes Susan. That's what we were saying. There is no birth registered for a Mary Ann Hannah only that birth posted for Mary Ann Lindsay. If you get that birth registration , it may give an occupation for her mother and an address.

the only information on her wedding certifcate was that her father was William Lindsay and he was a burgh surveyor but I think that this could possibly have been her uncle as I have now discovered that on the scotland census 1881 a Mary Ann Hannah is shown aged 7 as William Lindsays niece

the only information on her wedding certifcate was that her father was William Lindsay and he was a burgh surveyor but I think that this could possibly have been her uncle as I have now discovered that on the scotland census 1881 a Mary Ann Hannah is shown aged 7 as William Lindsays niece

Well found Mary!

I was looking for William in 1871 and saw he wasn't with his parents!

1871

Robert Pett
[Robert Pitt]
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Margaret Pett
Gender: Male
Where born: Kirkoswald, ayreshire
Registration Number: 459
Registration district: Wemyss
Civil Parish: Wemyss
County: Fife
Occupation: Blacksmith
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 54
LINE: 24
Roll: CSSCT1871_78
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Pett 46
Margaret Pett 36
Elizabeth Pett 13
John Pett 10
Robert Pett 4
David Pett 7
Margaret Pett 5
Mary Pett 1

1911 gives William Pitt's place of birth.

William Pitt
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 28 Jul 1855
Birth Place: Kilbirnie,Ayr,Scotland
Father: Robert Pitt
Mother: Margaret Smith
FHL Film Number: 6035516

By 1861 his family are in Fife

William Pitt
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relationship: Son (Child)
Father's name: Robert Pitt
Mother's name: Margaret Pitt
Gender: Male
Where born: Kilbirnie, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 459
Registration district: Wemyss
Civil Parish: Wemyss
County: Fife
Address: Small Shop
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 85
LINE: 3
Roll: CSSCT1861_60
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Pitt 36
Margaret Pitt 26
William Pitt 5
Elisabeth Pitt 3
John Pitt 9 Mo
Elisabeth Peebles 29
Elissbeth Gemmel

1871 Redford Cottage
Katrine Lindsay 1811
Eliza 1850 both outdoor workers.

1871 47,South Road Dundee
William Swdas 1848 Fober Cousbble a lodger
Should read William Lindsay Police Constable!!!

Maryb.

1861

William Lindsay
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relationship: Son (Child)
Father's name: William Lindsay
Mother's name: Catherine Lindsay
Gender: Male
Where born: Dysart, fifeshire
Registration Number: 426
Registration district: Dysart
Civil Parish: Dysart
County: Fife
Address: Redford Flax Factory
Occupation: Ag Lab
ED: 16
Household schedule number: 53
LINE: 13
Roll: CSSCT1861_56
Household Members:
Name Age
William Lindsay 50, Manager of property of Redford Flax
Catherine Lindsay 50
William Lindsay 13
James Lindsay 11
Elizabeth Lindsay 11
Ann Lindsay 8

1851

William Lindsay
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relationship: Son (Child)
Father: William Lindsay
Mother: Catherine Nicol
Gender: Male
Where born: Dysart, fifeshire
Parish Number: 426
Civil Parish: Dysart
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County: Fife
Address: West Strathore Cottar House
ED: 2A
Page: 9
Household schedule number: 23
LINE: 6
Roll: CSSCT1851_88
Household Members:
Name Age
William Lindsay 40, Labourer
Catherine Nicol 40
Margaret Lindsay 12
Andrew Lindsay 8
Rosina Lindsay 6
William Lindsay 4 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
James Lindsay 12 Mo
Elizabeth Lindsay 12 months <<<<<<<<<<

Looking good Mary! I do think that the Mary Ann Hannah on the 1881 census is the same Person as Mary Ann Lindsay. The only way to see the actual image of that census is to use credits on Scotlandspeople. Hannah may have been her father's surname and she may have chaged her name to Lindsay if she had no contact with her father and was raised by her uncle and aunt and their children.

Elizabeth Balderson Lindsay born Dysart 4/2/1849 (same date as the one who married William Pitt?)
her parents were William Lindsay 1811 -1870 and Catherine nee Nichol 1810-1880.
Eliza with mum Catherine in 1871.

Elizabeth and William Pitt's 1st daughter Catherine.

The William 1848 with Agnes looks like the brother of Elizabeth Lindsay 1849.

William and Agnes (keiller) married 1874 they had daughter Agnes 3/8/1877 according to Ancestry tree she was Agnes NICOL Lindsay.

Maryb.

Using the free search facility on Scotlandspeople, there is only one birth for Mary Ann Lindsay and it is in 1874 in Dysarthria, Fife. The is no birth for Mary Ann Hannah.

I think Mary Ann Hannah is possibly your Mary Ann Lindsay and is probably the illegitimate daughter of One of William's sisters and raised by William and his wife Agnes.

Perhaps the daughter Elizabeth O.Lindsay on the 1891 census was Mary's mother and on Mary's marriage certificate she named her grandfather as her father - which did sometimes happen with illegitimate children especially if they were brought up with the grandfather.

Kath. x

Wondering about this

1881

Mary Ann Hannah
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relationship: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Kirkcaldy, Fifeshire
Registration Number: 426
Registration district: Dysart
Civil Parish: Dysart
Town: Dysart
County: Fife
Address: 57 Cross
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 44
LINE: 8
Roll: cssct1881_119
Household Members:
Name Age
William Lindsay 33
Agnes Lindsay 28
Elizabeth Lindsay 5
Agnes Lindsay 3
Catherine Lindsay 1
Mary Ann Hannah 7

.???

1891

William Lindsay
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Agnes Lindsay
Gender: Male
Where born: Dysart, Fifeshire
Registration Number: 426
Registration district: Dysart
Civil Parish: Dysart
Town: Dysart
County: Fife
Address: Municipal Bdgr Victoria St
Occupation: Burgh Surveyor <<<<<<<<
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 198
LINE: 8
Roll: CSSCT1891_130
Household Members:
Name Age
William Lindsay 43
Agnes Lindsay 40
Elizabeth O Lindsay 15
Agnes N Lindsay 13
Catherine R Lindsay 11
William B Lindsay 9
Margaret K Lindsay 6
Anna F V Lindsay 4
Jemima B Lindsay

thank you for your information I already have this thank you I am trying to trace her back to scotland and her family I have a copy of her wedding certificate and it states that her father was William Lindsay and he was a burgh surveyor I think the family were from kirkcaldyor Dysert in fife Willaim Lindsay is a very popular name and I am trawling through them all at the moment Regrds Sue x

The William Pitt on 1891 census married Elizabeth Lindsay according to trees on Ancestry.

Elizabeth Lindsay born 4/2/1852 Dysart Fife died 15/11/1920.

There was a Mary Ann 1873 baptised in Dysart by Elizabeth Lindsay posted earlier.

1911 census has William and Elizabeth married 35 years 1st child Robert born lancs 1876,Catherine Lindsay Pitt 1878.
Mary Ann not on 1881 census with William and Elizabeth.

Maryb.

PM received from Susan - have advised her to reply on here.

From marriage cert, it seems Mary's father was William Lindsay, land surveyor.

Susan, it would be helpful to put everything you have from the cert on here.

Jan

Welcome to the Community boards Susan.



(I'll let Susan know how to find her replies) :-)