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Morning All,

Could some kind person please look on census's records for Richard Jackson born abt 1797 living in Beckingham, near Newark in Nottinghamshire he died in 1874, would like to know where he put place of birth.

The thing is I have 2 Richard Jackson's born Bulwell one in 1796 son of John and Mary the other born 1799 son of Luke and Hannah, one went to live in Blackley Lancashire died 1884 I think this is the son of Luke but there is a tree on Ancestry that says he went to the Newark distract and died in 1874 but I think that could be the son of John. Ages at death puts me right but would like to rule out the Beckingham one.

Sorry if it sounds confusing :-(

Thank you for any help given on this

Wendy

This one.........

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Richard Jackson in the 1861 England Census
Name:Richard Jackson
Age:64
Estimated Birth Year:1797
Relation:Head
Spouse's Name:Mary Jackson
Gender:Male
Where born:Barnby, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish:Beckingham
Ecclesiastical parish:Lincoln
County/Island:Lincolnshire
Country:England
Registration district:Newark
Sub-registration district:Bassingham

Household Members:

Richard Jackson 64 (Ag Lab)
Mary Jackson 56
Elizabeth Smith 94 (Mother in Law)

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Parish House, Beckingham, Newark, Nottinghamshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Richard Jackson Head - Male 75 1796 - Nottinghamshire,
Mary Jackson Wife - Female 68 1803 - Lincolnshire, England


Dea x

NB - the image also says 'Barsby' or Barnby' , Notts.

Hi Prickes & Dea,

Thank you, it doesn't look like the one from Bulwell then, so can rule him out.

Wendy

Deaths Mar 1874 (>99%)
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JACKSON Richard 77 Newark 7b 221


27 December 1873 - Grantham Journal - Grantham, Lincolnshire, England

BECKINGHAM.
Shocking Accident - An inquest was held at this village, on Tuesday, before F. Malim, Esq., deputy coroner, touching the death Richard Jackson, aged seventy-seven - On the 18th inst., the deceased had been drinking at the Swan public-house, and left in the evening at about six o'clock with a man named Thomas Dickinson. It was very dark at the time, and when proceeding along the village street, the mail cart to Newark came up, and when not being able to get clear of it, they were both knocked down, and run over, the injuries to Jackson being of a very serious nature, and resulted in death on the 22nd. Verdict, accidentally killed.

Chris :)

Hi Chris,

Thank you that's very interesting. I think the tree on Ancestry has got it worng.

Wendy

The one in Blackley was still alive in 1881:

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Top of Valentine, Blackley, Prestwich, Lancashire, England
Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

Richard Jackson Head Married Male 84 1797 Block Printer Nottinghamshire
Anne Jackson Wife Married Female 79 1802 ­ Middleton, Lancashire, England
John Openshaw Grand Son In Law Married Male 30 1851 Shopman Grocer Prestwich, Lancashire, England
Alice Ann Openshaw Grand Daughter Married Female 30 1851 Shopman & Grocers Wife Blackley, Lancashire, England
Mary Shuffleton Grand Daughter Single Female 29 1852 Beam Warper (C) Blackley, Lancashire, England
Eva E Campell Grand Daughter Single Female 9 1872 Scholar Blackley, Lancashire, England

Always a good idea to check out information from other peoples trees.

I noticed a member on Ancestry has my Grt Grandfathers brothers married off with 7 children.

Odd because he died at the age of 11. :-D

hi Marie,

Yes I did say he died in 1884 and age at death puts his birth as 1799, I do think that he is the son of Luke and Hannah, also two of his borthers went to live in Lancashire too.

Wendy

Hi Priclkes,

So many tree on Ancestry has wrong info, there's one that has my dad and his dad dying in America when they died here in Nottingham.

Wendy

Yes, Wendy - I was confirming your statement!

Could this be the Richard living in Beckingham?

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Richard Jackson
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 20 Nov 1796
Baptism Place: Barnby IN The Willows,Nottingham,England
Father: John Jackson
Mother: Anne
FHL Film Number: 503473, 504059, 504076, 504080

The image of the 1881 census in Blackley states his place of birth as Bulwell !

Dea x

Hi Marie, Dea & Pickles,

Thank you so much for your help, yes Marie that looks like the one in Beckingham. It makes sense that the one in Blackley is the son of Luke. Cannot find what happened to the Richard born 1796 son of John, I know he married in Bulwell in 1825 but his wife and son both died 1826 Bulwell.

Thank you for all your help.

Wendy

It would seem most likely that 'your' Richard in Blackley is the son of Luke and Hannah, given that he named 2 of hisd children Luke and Hannah - can't find any proof though, as yet.

Dea x

hi Dea,

Thank you so much :-D :-D

Wendy

This looks like it could be the 'other' Richard from Bulwell:


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
The Bell Inn, Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Woodward Head Married Male 48 1803 Inn Keeper Ashover, Derbyshire, England

Ellen Woodward Niece - Female 12 1839 Scholar Ault Hucknall, Derbyshire, England

Mary Reece Servant - Female 18 1833 Servant Derbyshire, England

Richard Jackson Lodger Widower Male 53 1798 Farm Laborer Bulwell, Nottinghamshire, England

He is a widower?

Dea x

Thank you Dea,

Yes his wife Hannah died in 1826 and on his son's Christening 1826 he was a Labourer, the son also died and was buried on same day as Hannah.

I'll have to look at the marriage to Hannah and see if there is any clues but I still think he's the son of John but will keep an open mind for now.

All the best

Wendy

Hi Dea,

Just to let you know that the Richard Jackson you found in Chesterfield died 1857 and is buried in Holy Trinity Church, Chesterfield on 5 Aug 1857 aged 60yrs.

Thank you for all your help.

Wendy

Thanks Wendy.

I notice on your tree on Ancestry that you don't seem to have the 1851 census for them ? - Just in case you haven't yet found it I will post it below:


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Valentine Brow, Manchester, Lancashire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Richard Jackson Head Married Male 49 1802 Silk Printer Nottinghamshire, England (image states Bulwell + aged 49 !)
Ann Jackson Wife Married Female 46 1805 Illegible Tonge, Lancashire, England
Hannah Jackson Dau Unmarried Female 22 1829 Cotton Weaver Blackley, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Shuffleton Dau Married Female 20 1831 Cotton Winder Blackley, Lancashire, England
Sarah Ann Jackson Dau Unmarried Female 15 1836 Cotton Winder Blackley, Lancashire, England
Luke Jackson Son - Male 8 1843 Illegible Blackley, Lancashire, England
John Jackson Gson - Male 1 1850 Illegible Blackley, Lancashire, England
John Shuffleton Son/law Married Male 21 1830 Labourer Harpurhey, Lancashire, England
Alice Ann Shuffleton Dau - Female 0 1851 Illegible Blackley, Lancashire, England

Unfortunately it doesn't get you any closer to confirming his parents though. :-(

Dea x

This looks like the grandson on that 1851:

Baptism: 25 Nov 1849 St Peter, Blackley, Lancashire, England
John William Jackson - Son of Hannah Jackson, Singlewoman
Born: 6 Jun
Abode: Blackley
Baptised by: Geo. S Bowes, Curate
Register: Baptisms 1839 - 1851, Page 92
Source: LDS Film 559152

Dea x