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1911 census look up please - Mary Ethal Stainton

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 May 2015 15:26

Rummaging around for Mary (without success), I found that, interestingly, Mary's mother is named as Alice Maud at her baptism.
Presumably just a mistake:


Baptism entry

County Lincolnshire
Place Scunthorpe
Church name St John
Register type
Register entry number 58
Baptism date 21 Sep 1890
Person forename Mary Ethel
Person sex F
Person abode Scunthorpe
Father forename James
Father surname GRAY
Father occupation Labourer
Mother forename Alice Maud 99%)
ELWIS Alice Marian Glanford B. 7a 1455
Gray James Glanford B. 7a 1455


Throughout the 1891-1911 censuses posted on page 1 of this thread, she's Alice Maria

I assume this is her marriage, from FreeBMD. There's no sign of this marriage on FreeReg2 in the Parish Registers:
Marriages Jun 1877 (>99%)
ELWIS Alice Marian Glanford B. 7a 1455
Gray James Glanford B. 7a 1455


And her birth - name as you said in your OP , Jane:

Births Mar 1859 (>99%)
ELVIDGE Alice Maria Thorne 9c 489


EDIT - later:

But on the baptism transcription on FamilySearch, she's Alice Maria:


Mary Ethel Gray
England Births and Christenings
Name:
Mary Ethel Gray
Gender:
Female
Christening Date:
21 Sep 1890
Christening Place:
Saint Johns, Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire, England
Father's Name:
James Gray
Mother's Name:
Alice Maria

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 26 May 2015 13:47

I just wish it could have been positive, rather than the opposite.

Jane

Jane Report 26 May 2015 13:44

Thanks Jacqueline.

Well that confirms that my Mary Ethal Gray did not marry George Stainton.

Thanks for all your help

Jane

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 26 May 2015 12:45

This is the birth of the woman who married Stainton (just for absolute confirmation)


Births Sep 1889 (>99%)
Gray Mary Ethel Pancras 1b 60


And 1891/1901 with her father Charles

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Great Saffron Hill, Saffron Hill Hatton Garden Ely Rents and Ely Place, Holborn, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charles Gray Head Married Male 24 1867 Printer General Bloomsbury, Middlesex, England Transcription
Emma Gray Wife Married Female 22 1869 - Strand, Middlesex, England Transcription
Mary E Gray Daughter - Female 1 1890 - St Pancras, Middlesex, England Transcription


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
1, Maiden Row, Louth, Lincolnshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Ralph Robinson Head Married Male 60 1841 General Dealer Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
Rose Robinson Wife F Female 55 1846 - Derbyshire, England Transcription
Charles Gray Boarder Married Male 33 1868 Printer Mechineman London, Middlesex, England Transcription
Mary Gray Boarder F Female 12 1889 - London, Middlesex, England Transcription
John Gray Boarder Married Male 9 1892 - London, Middlesex, England

Jane

Jane Report 26 May 2015 12:31

Thanks ArgyllGran

So that means she didn't marry Charles Would and she didn't marry George Stainton. So perhaps she was the other child that died. Strange I couldn't see a deat for her.

thanks for helping

Jane

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 May 2015 11:27

Marriages Mar 1914 (>99%)
Gray Mary E Woulds Gainsbro 7a 1242
WOULDS Charles W Gray Gainsbro 7a 1242

There were 5 children of that marriage, 1914-28, all Gainsborough.


EDIT:
No that's not her:

Mary Elizabeth Woulds
in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007

Name: Mary Elizabeth Woulds
Birth Date: 22 Aug 1893
Date of Registration: Mar 1978
Age at Death: 84
Registration district: Gainsborough
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 7
Page: 1647

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 May 2015 11:22

Just for our reference:


Mary E Stainton
in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Mary E Stainton
Birth Date: abt 1891
Date of Registration: Mar 1947
Age at Death: 56
Registration district: Scunthorpe
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 457



Burial entry

County Lincolnshire
Place Keddington
Church name St Margaret
Register type
Register entry number 790
Burial date 08 Jan 1947
Person age 56
Burial person forename Mary Ethel
Burial person surname STAINTON
Burial person abode Memorial Hospital Scunthorpe
Notes note in margin section 1 C.8

Jane

Jane Report 26 May 2015 11:19

Thanks ArgyllGran and Yvonne

I do not know anything about him. I only found out about a possible marriage today. But if the 1911 census is correct then it doesn't look as if she married him. I will have to take another look at the marriage between a Mary E gray and a mr Charles W Would in Gainsborough Mar 1914. I am just guessing here I have no idea if she married or not.

Jane

malyon

malyon Report 26 May 2015 11:16

Deaths Dec 1951 (>99%)
STAINTON George W 63 Louth 3b 321

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 May 2015 11:02

Do you know any more about George Stainton?

Where and when born? Occupation?

Jane

Jane Report 26 May 2015 10:10

For info

Hannah Gray was her sister and she went on to marry Harry Kirk.

Jane

Jane

Jane Report 26 May 2015 10:07

I have had a look at the deaths on FreeBMD and I can't find her there. So I guess she must be hiding somewhere.

Thanks again

Jane

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 26 May 2015 09:53

For INFO

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
102, Frodingham Road, Scunthorpe, Glanford Brigg, Lincolnshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Edwin Beven Head Married Male 42 1859 Clerk At Blast Furacers Scotland Transcription
Annie Beven Wife Married Female 43 1858 - Lincolnshire, England Transcription
Guy Beven Son Single Male 18 1883 Clerk At Blast Furacers Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
Edgar Beven Son Single Male 15 1886 Monumental Mason Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
Richard Beven Son Single Male 11 1890 - Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
Alfred Beven Son Single Male 3 1898 - Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
Hannah Gray Servant Single Female 14 1887 General Servant Domtic Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire, England Transcription

Jane

Jane Report 26 May 2015 09:52

Thanks Jacqueline

That's true she seems to have disappeared off the 1901. I will have to have a look into that. I can account for one of the children who died but not the other so perhaps it was her. I will take a closer looks at the deaths.

All the best

Jane

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 26 May 2015 09:39

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
8, 2 Street North, Frodingham, Glanford Brigg, Lincolnshire, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Gray Head Married Male 43 1858 Iron Stone Quarry Man Yorkshire, England Transcription
Alice Maria Gray Wife Married Female 42 1859 - Amcotts, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
James Alexadra Gray Son N Male 7 1894 - Frodingham, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
Edith Edwards Gray Son - Male 2 1899 - Frodingham, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
Eva Barrass Visitor Single Female 14 1887 - Hull, Yorkshire, England

I wonder where Mary was...............she would have been only 9 or 10 years old

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 26 May 2015 09:38

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
7 Trent St Frodingham, Frodingham, Lincolnshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
James Gray Head - Male 52 1859 Rawcliffe Yokshire Horseman For Carter Transcription
Alice Marrie Gray Wife - Female 52 1859 Amcotts Lincolnshire - Transcription
James Alenador Gray Son Single Male 17 1894 Frodingham Lincolnshire Chemical Worker Transcription
Cyril Gray Son - Male 8 1903 Frodingham Lincolnshire School

9 children.......2 have died

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 26 May 2015 09:34

Posting for INFO

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Screeds, Ashby, Glanford Brigg, Lincolnshire, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Gray Head Married Male 32 1859 Furnace Labourer Rawcliffe, Yorkshire, England Transcription
Alice Maria Gray Wife Married Female 32 1859 - Amcotts, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
John William Gray Son - Male 11 1880 Scholar Newland, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
Elizabeth Elwitt Gray Daughter - Female 9 1882 Scholar Newland, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
Hannah Jane Gray Daughter - Female 4 1887 - Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
Mary E Gray Daughter Single Female 0 1891 - Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
Charles T D Insull Visitor - Male 3 1888 - Frodingham, Lincolnshire, England

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 26 May 2015 09:33

Births Sep 1890 (>99%)
Gray Mary Ethel Glanford B. 7a 664

Jane

Jane Report 26 May 2015 09:29

Hi Jacqueline.

Thanks for your help

Well that extra information from the 1911 census makes me think that maybe this is not my Mary Ethal. Oh dear further investigation is required.

All the best

Jane

Jane

Jane Report 26 May 2015 09:24

Thanks Jacqueline.

Yes I did. I found 5 possibles all born Louth..
Georgina M b 1912
Frederick C b1914
John b 1920
Joan b 1921
Basil born 1929

However I didn't know about Charles.

also there was only one marriage beween a Gray and Stainton so they had to be hers. I had previously thought that she married a MR Would in 1914. Which just goes to show that you have to confirm everything you find.

Thanks again for helping me

Jane.