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Thanks ArgyllGran.

I have saved it in my records.

Jane

Having looked at 1841 again, I'm sure it's the right family.

Next door but one, there's Joseph Green, clerk, at the Rectory - age 30, not born in county.

In 1861, next door to the Kirks is Joseph Green, rector, at Parsonage House, age 54, born Holland.


Also, although Ancestry's transcription says they're in Owersby in 1841, the image says Owmby.

Thanks Yvonne.

I will add that to my notes.

Jane

This burial for Mary is looking good.

Lincolnshire
Place Owmby-by-Spital
Church name St Peter and St Paul
Register type
Burial date 24 Jan 1854
Person age 49
Burial person forename Mary
Burial person surname KIRK
Burial person abode Owmby

john and mary's marriage


John Kirk
mentioned in the record of John Kirk and Mary Bentley
Name: John Kirk
Spouse's Name: Mary Bentley
Event Date: 09 Dec 1823
Event Place: Owston, Lincoln, England

marys birth

Mary Bentley
England Births and Christenings
Name: Mary Bentley
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 08 Dec 1805
Christening Place: Owston, Lincoln, England
Father's Name: John Bentley
Mother's Name: Hanah

Yes I think you are right. that does look a good match for the family.

All the best

Jane

Just possibly the family in 1841 ???
The ages of John, Mary (mother), George, and Mary (daughter) would all fit.

George Kirk
in the 1841 England Census

Name: George Kirk
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Gender: Male
Where born: Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Owersby
Hundred: East Aslacoe
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Registration district: Lincoln
Sub-registration district: Lincoln North East
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 641
Book: 18
Folio: 4
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
John Kirk 40
Mary Kirk 35
John Kirk 8
Mary Kirk 1
Elizabeth Kirk 12
Lucy Kirk 6
George Kirk 4

Looking at the 1851 and 1861 census which say Hannah was from Broughton I am going with the marriage between John Kirk and Hannah clark

As for the death of Mary well ihaven't a clue which one is Williams wife.

Thanks again everyone

Jane.

I would expect William's birth to be one of these two as Lincoln RD covers OWMBY. As he is 3 and 13 on the census, more likely to be the 1847 one


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Sep 1847 (>99%)
Kirk William Lincoln 14 445

Births Jun 1849 (>99%)
Kirk William Lincoln 14 492

Thanks greyghost and ArgyllGran for helping me.

If the 1851 census is my family then it has john married to Mary not Hannah!!. William's age would be correct though.

If I go by the marriage to Hannah in 1855 it means that this was johns second marriage (Because of the age of William) so I gues he married Mary first.

Thanks again

Jane

Another possible death for Mary, to add to those posted above by Greyghost:

Deaths Dec 1851 (>99%)
Kirk Mary Lincoln 14 288

found the christening of john on https://familysearch.org

Hannah Clark in 1851 in OWMBY

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Cwmby by Spittal, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation
Hannah Clark Head Widow Female 53 1798 Carrier Broughton, Lincolnshire, England
Ann E Shaw Grand Daughter - Female 8 1843 Scholar Normanby, Lincolnshire, England
John Akril Servant Unmarried Male 18 1833 House Servant Ingham, Lincolnshire, England

could be this marriage

John Kirk
England Marriages, 1538–1973
marriage: 1817 Nettleham, Lincoln, England
spouse: Hannah Revill

or this one

John Kirk
mentioned in the record of John Kirk and Hannah Silvester
Name: John Kirk
Spouse's Name: Hannah Silvester
Event Date: 04 Aug 1822
Event Place: Spalding, Lincoln, England

And these possible deaths having seen Argyll Gran's 1851 census post

Deaths Sep 1848 (>99%)
KIRK Mary Lincoln 14 317

Deaths Jun 1851 (>99%)
Kirk Mary Lincoln 14 322

Deaths Mar 1854 (>99%)
Kirk Mary Lincoln 7a 325

That's strange I have just being looking at the baptisms for Luddington on Lincstothepast site and I couldn't find Johns baptism. I guess there must have been more than one church there.

Thanks for your help.

Jane

Am not seeing the "family" in 1851 - In the above 1861 census Hannah, although not impossible, looks a bit old to have a 13 year old son. There is this marriage in the Lincoln RD in 1855

England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription

First name(s) JOHN
Last name KIRK
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1855
MarriageFinder™ JOHN KIRK married
HANNAH CLARK
District LINCOLN
Country England
Volume 7A
Page 893

According to 1851, there were at least 2 other children - George and Mary

(That's if this is the same family - different mother's name from 1861.):

William Kirk

in the 1851 England Census
Name: William Kirk
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Son (Child)
Father's name: John Kirk
Mother's name: Mary Kirk
Gender: Male
Where born: Owmby, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Blyton
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Registration district: Gainsborough
Sub-registration district: Owston
ED, institution, or vessel: 13b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 17
Piece: 2119
Folio: 348
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
John Kirk 51 - Luddington
Mary Kirk 46 - East Butterwick, Lincs.
George Kirk 13
Mary Kirk 11
William Kirk 3
John Pletcher 27 - visitor
Sarah Pletcher 24 - visitor
Hannah Kirk 7 - visitor

Thanks Yvonne


I will add that to my records. I may need to buy that cert.

all the best

Jane

farther birth

John Kirk
England Births and Christenings
Name: John Kirk
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 11 Jun 1800
Christening Place: Luddington, Lincoln, England
Father's Name: Richard Kirk
Mother's Name: Mary
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03003-4 ,