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Frizzell and Simms (Scotland & Hull?)

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Laird

Laird Report 7 Aug 2016 14:34

I do sincerely hope Private George Eliassen of the West Yorkshire Regiment survived the war.

Laird

Laird Report 7 Aug 2016 14:36

Ah how very very sad :-(

PRIVATE
GEORGE ELIASSEN
WEST YORKSHIRE REGIMENT (PRINCE OF WALES'S OWN)
DIED ON 27 SEPTEMBER 1915 AGE UNKNOWN
LOOS MEMORIAL

PAS DE CALAIS FRANCE

SERVICE NO. 13522

Laird

Laird Report 7 Aug 2016 14:48

I shall add this brave man to my tree.......does any on know his birth?

Laird

Laird Report 7 Aug 2016 14:50

He'll no doubt be on the Medal Roll I guess?

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 7 Aug 2016 14:53

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D3452340

(you need to search now with Army Number on Ancestry, Find My Past or Genes)

Also to look for his Birth...(see names on YorksBMD index link, going from 1901 posted earlier, then check for Deaths, might not be as 'George'). Then go to below, you can always 'play' with surname, or search el*

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

All part of research, takes time each family, lots to check, lots of places to search, never ends!...(steady and slow, as they say!)


(never forget the wonder of 'google' search...(brings below!)


http://ww1hull.org.uk/index.php/streets-people-came-from/NORFOLKSTREET/7779-eliassen


All UK, Army Registers of Soldiers' Effects, 1901-1929 (Ancestry)

(should be on above then, as mentioned in link)


(time I was in garden now, lol)

Chris :)


Edits (see below Ancestry, Free to view!, with extra info. added)

All British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920

George Elias
Prince of Wales's Own (West Yorkshire) Regiment 13522


Oh, and here you go!...that address on link I posted earlier, relating to War Memorial...


1911 (Find My Past)
Odin Einer Eliasser Head Single Male Boot Maker 23 1888 Yorks Hull
Edith Bradley Housekeeper Married Female House Keeper General 33 1878 Yorks Hull
Joseph Tyes Boarder Married Male Printer Machinie Worker 24 1887 Lincolns Society
Address 5 Russell Terrace Bean St Hull
Parish Holy Trinity and St Mary
County Yorkshire, Yorkshire (East Riding)
Census reference RG14 PN28790 RG78 PN1652 RD522 SD2 ED21 SN109


(will leave you to find his Birth now, add here if you can't)

Laird

Laird Report 8 Aug 2016 16:39

Alas I telephoned the Hull Daily News and they said they didn't have the photo any more of George Eliassen.

Laird

Laird Report 8 Aug 2016 20:32

I located the newspaper articles here for George Eliassen, still featured as lost in this paper-

Hull Daily Mail East Riding of Yorkshire, England
4 Feb 1919

No photos sadly but I see he got 3 medals which i can see from his medal roll.

Still no idea when he born???

Laird

Laird Report 8 Aug 2016 20:46

Managed to get George Eliassen's parents marriage license.

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/kornflakes77/1884%20Marriage%20Certificate%20Elias%20Eliasson%20amp%20Matilde%20Knudson_zpskegpge0m.jpg

That narrows down his birth a bit. Interesting to see George's dad is listed as a mariner and Elias his dad appears to have a different surname......both carpenters.......haha I wonder if they built any longboats :-)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 9 Aug 2016 07:18

(did you not check on below for Births?, you can use 'Soundex' option)

http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk/index.php

Chris :)


Yorkshire Birth indexes for the years: 1887

ELIASEN Odin E Myton Hull MYT/161/130


Births Sep 1887 (>99%)
------------------------------------------------
ELIASEN Odin Einer Hull 9d 285


Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1884

ELIASCSEN Elias KNUDSON Matilda Holy Trinity Hull HD/33/473


Marriages Sep 1884 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------
Eliasson Elias Hull 9d 310
Kundson Matilde Hull 9d 310


Came across below, from 'google' search, messrs Wilson hull (as mentioned in newspaper article, led to below)

http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_shiplist.asp?co=wilso

(then found below!)

http://www.norwayheritage.com/udvandret.asp?type=passengerlist&ps=38927&jo=739

(from that came below)


1871 (Find My Past)
First name(s) T Elias
Last name Tonnesen
Gender Male
Age 17
Birth year 1854
Occupation (Rank of Crew. Boy)
Birth place Norway
Parish Myton, South
County Yorkshire, Yorkshire (East Riding)
Registration district Hull
Vessel name Helene Margrethe, Of Arendal
Archive reference RG10
Piece number 4797
Folio 40

(so in this Country from 1870)

Chris :)

Edits (from 1871, Where Born, says Flekkefjord, comes up on 'google')

http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_ship.asp?sh=hebeb

('Bark Hebe' Vessel)


(probably the Witness from Marriage below)

1881 (Find My Past)
Annie Paulsen Wife Head Married Female 28 1853 Seamans Wife Norway
Fridgjof Paulsen Son Single Male 3 1878 - Norway
Sophia Rebecca Paulsen Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - Hull, Yorkshire, England
Street York Terrace
Parish Kingston upon Hull Holy Trinity and St Mary
County Yorkshire, Yorkshire (East Riding)
Registration district Hull
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 4775
Folio 6
Page 6

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 9 Aug 2016 09:52

Re Ulster Covenant...ArgyllGran is correct with her explanation as to who was able to sign the covenant.

Laird

Laird Report 9 Aug 2016 21:27

From Ancestry-

1891 England Census
Census & Electoral Rolls
Name Elias Eliason
Spouse W A Matilde Eliason
Children Magdalene Eliason
Birth 1857 - Sweden
Residence Holy Trinity, Yorkshire

1911 England Census
Census & Electoral Rolls
Name Elias Eliasson
Spouse Alma Matilda Eliasson
Children Amanda Matilda
Birth 1856
Residence 02 Apr 1911 - Holy Trinity and St Mary, Yorkshire-East Riding, England

My great grandmother's birth certificate-

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/kornflakes77/1892%20Matilda%20Eliason%20Simms_zpsq1v6ok4u.jpg

From census records it looks like Elias Eliassen had several children.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 10 Aug 2016 07:40

(you missed Odin on that one!, this on page 2 here)

Chris :)

greyghost Report 15 Aug 2015 23:26

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Beadle Terrace, Holy Trinity and St Mary, Hull, Yorkshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Elias Elison Head Married Male 34 1857 Sailor Sweden Transcription
W A Matilde Elison Wife Married Female 39 1852 - Norway Transcription
Magdalene Elison Daughter - Female 10 1881 Scholar Hull, Yorkshire, England Transcription
Odin Elison Son - Male 4 1887 Scholar Hull, Yorkshire, England Transcription

(adds)

Yorkshire Birth indexes for the years: 1892

ELIASON Matilda A Myton Hull MYT/185/133

Laird

Laird Report 10 Aug 2016 12:27

haha how splendid Odin! What a fabulously Viking name :-)

Right so we have Madgelene, Odin, my great grandmother Matilda and George.......George being the least Viking sounding name :-)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 10 Aug 2016 20:27

Odin was 'George'...

Chris :)

(as below, posted earlier, think you might be 'whizzing' a bit, and not seeing everything, lol)

http://ww1hull.org.uk/index.php/streets-people-came-from/NORFOLKSTREET/7779-eliassen

Laird

Laird Report 10 Aug 2016 23:45

Omg totally missed that. George is Odin!!! Who knew ?

Laird

Laird Report 11 Aug 2016 21:17

I did a search for this and came up with a blank so I can only assume the date for the photo is out?

03 December 1915 - Hull Daily Mail - Hull, East Riding of Yorkshire,

(photo of George)

(Newspaper access from Find My Past, Genes, or below, all need subscriptions)

http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 12 Aug 2016 07:09

http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/

(well they come up on above, have a look, you have the option to filter by Newspaper Title, Year, Month, Day range. Newspapers are such a valuable source to family history, for all sorts of reasons, well worth investing in.
And there is probably more to be found if you spend the time, using different keywords for searching.


To be honest don't know how you would find anything on Genes version of them, can't see any options to filter, looks hard going!, also, don't think they are working properly, seems to throw 'no results' all the time, frustrating I'd say!, Very, lol)

Chris :)


(search term. eliassen)

Thursday 02 December 1915 , Hull Daily Mail , East Riding of Yorkshire, England
Type: Article Words: 33 Page: 5

MISSING HULL SOLDIER
HULL SOLDIER. Any information as to the whereabouts of Private George Eliassen, who was reported missing after th battle of Loos, will gratefully received his mother


(search term. 24 pease)

Friday 03 December 1915 , Hull Daily Mail , East Riding of Yorkshire, England
Type: Illustrated Words: 152 Page: 3 Tags: none

ILLUSTRATED HULL
Fred Carr, the 3.5 th Linco In shir,,. Ren niie-nt, now hospital. lives at, Keel by, Ida , an, ohisiiirc. Private George 24, Pease

Laird

Laird Report 12 Aug 2016 08:36

Is George's photo in there?

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 12 Aug 2016 09:07

Yes.

Chris :)

(search term. 24 pease)

Friday 03 December 1915 , Hull Daily Mail , East Riding of Yorkshire, England
Type: Illustrated Words: 152 Page: 3 Tags: none

ILLUSTRATED HULL
Fred Carr, the 3.5 th Linco In shir,,. Ren niie-nt, now hospital. lives at, Keel by, Ida , an, ohisiiirc. Private George 24, Pease

Laird

Laird Report 12 Aug 2016 12:28

OK cheers Chris. I'm going to try my best to get that photo.