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Marion Fitzhugh 1911 Census

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mgnv

mgnv Report 30 May 2016 03:07

From the GRO index:
Fitzhugh Chorlton RD Births 1901-1911
1904q4 Fitzhugh Herbert Chorlton 8c 922
1905q1 Fitzhugh Marian Elizabeth Chorlton 8c 905
1905q3 Fitz Hugh Hilda Chorlton 8c 865
1907q4 FITZHUGH Alice Chorlton 8c 856
1908q4 Fitzhugh Marian Chorlton 8c 681
1908q4 Fitzhugh Robert Chorlton 8c 839
1909q2 FITZHUGH Edna Chorlton 8c 893
1911q1 Fitzhugh Hannah M Chorlton 8c 810


Fitzhugh Chorlton RD Deaths 1901-1911
1907q4 Fitzhugh Alice 0 Chorlton 8c 549
1909q3 FITZHUGH Edna 0 Chorlton 8c 451
1909q3 FITZHUGH Hilda 2 Chorlton 8c 455

It's reasonable to match these deaths up with the births.
From the one quarter gap in the first two births, we conclude there's more than one Fitzhugh family above.

If I click on the "Chorlton" link in a FreeBMD hit, then the mote info "here" link, I get to see all the subdistricts that ever were in Chorlton, viz:
Sub-districts : Ardwick, Barton, Chorlton upon Medlock, Didsbury, Gorton, Hulme, Openshaw, Rusholme, Stretford.
However, if I do an advanced search at http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ for Chorlton within refs RG13 (1901) or RG14 (1911), or both, then I find the only subdistricts in operation for these censuses were:
Didsbury, Ardwick, Chorlton upon Medlock, Hulme

Here's the local index lookup of these births from LancsBMD:
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
1904 FITZHUGH Herbert Hulme Archives+, Manchester Central Library HUL/365/52
1907 FITZHUGH Alice Hulme Archives+, Manchester Central Library HUL/380/46
1908 FITZHUGH Robert Hulme Archives+, Manchester Central Library HUL/385/77
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1908 FITZHUGH Miriam Ardwick Archives+, Manchester Central Library ARD/410/20
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1905 FITZHUGH Marian E Chorlton-on-Medlock Archives+, Manchester Central Library CHO/203/82
1907 FITZHUGH Hilda Chorlton-on-Medlock Archives+, Manchester Central Library CHO/210/56
1909 FITZHUGH Edna Chorlton-on-Medlock Archives+, Manchester Central Library CHO/215/1
1911 FITZHUGH Hannah M Chorlton-on-Medlock Archives+, Manchester Central Library CHO/219/17

I've sorted them by subdistrict into the 3 families I guess they're from

I can only find one of these families in 1911:
This is in piece rg14/23920, a Hulme subdistrict piece #:

First name(s) Last name Birth year Birth place Registration district Parish County
Herbert Fitzhugh 1881 Lancs Manchester Chorlton South Manchester Lancashire
Maud Fitzhugh 1882 Lancs Ashton U Lyne Chorlton South Manchester Lancashire
Herbert Fitzhugh 1905 Lancs Manchester Chorlton South Manchester Lancashire
Robert Spiby 1852 Lancs Croston Chorlton South Manchester Lancashire

and even then, I'm missing Robt - I guess these are the parents:

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1904
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
FITZHUGH Herbert SPIBY Maud Greenheys, St. Clement Archives+, Manchester Central Library 60/2/355

As for our mob, they're either missing from the census, or Fitzhugh is recorded or transcribed in a way I can't guess.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 May 2016 10:46

are yes they have got the dates wrong on the transcript

Marian is 10.12.1904 occ unpaid domestic

Mary Alton is 22.4.1913 occ hotel waitress

Thomas McHugh 27.2.1881

Thomas junir birth is correct as 22.2.1922

a right mix up :-(


possible birth for Mary

Name: Mary Alton
Mother's Maiden Name: Creevy
Registration Year: 1913
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Chorlton
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 1707 :-D

Dea

Dea Report 29 May 2016 09:17

Look like the Arthur in there was Frederick's father?


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
31 Phillips Street Hulme Manchester, South Manchester, Lancashire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Arthur Alton Head Married Male Machine Driller 32 1879 Manchester England
Transcription
Marion Alton Wife Married Female House Wife 31 1880 Queenstown Ireland
Transcription
James Alton Son - Male - 7 1904 Manchester England
Transcription
Fred Alton Son - Male - 6 1905 Manchester England
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Francis Alton Son - Male - 2 1909 Manchester England
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Art Hur Alton Son - Male - 0 1911 Manchester England

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 29 May 2016 09:03

Again, other persons in that grave from:
http://www.burialrecords.manchester.gov.uk/GenSearch.aspx


Burial Date Deceased Cemetery Grave Number Grave Details

07/02/1929 Arthur Alton Southern Cemetery HRoman Catholic 974
07/11/1931 Edna Alton Southern Cemetery HRoman Catholic 974
02/03/1939 Marion Alton Southern Cemetery HRoman Catholic 974
30/12/1974 Frederick Alton Southern Cemetery HRoman Catholic 974

Dea x

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 29 May 2016 08:32

Not sure if already noticed, but checking that 1939 image, Birth as 10th Dec. 1904 for Marian, Frederick, 18th Aug. 1904...


Births Sep 1904 (>99%)
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ALTON Frederick Chorlton 8c 964

(anybody else want check image)

Chris :)

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1904

HUGH Thomas F HODGSON Margaret H Chorlton-on-Medlock Register Office or
Registrar Attended Archives+, Manchester Central Library


Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1922

FITZHUGH Thomas C Chorlton-on-Medlock Manchester HODSON CHO/243/58

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php


(also in Southern Cemetery, baby Edna Alton 1931, Frederick 1974)

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi

Dea

Dea Report 29 May 2016 06:26

3 people in that grave:

Cemetery Section Grave Position Deceased
Southern Cemetery SConsecrated 4529 1 Margaret Hannah Fitzhugh
Southern Cemetery SConsecrated 4529 2 Thomas Fitzhugh
Southern Cemetery SConsecrated 4529 3 Hannah May Dean


23/06/1939 Margaret Hannah Fitzhugh Southern Cemetery SConsecrated 4529 View details
07/06/1947 Thomas Fitzhugh Southern Cemetery SConsecrated 4529 View details
13/11/1973 Hannah May Dean Southern Cemetery SConsecrated 4529 View details

Dea x

safc

safc Report 28 May 2016 20:44

margaret hannah fitzhugh

http://goo.gl/9yZIYk

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 28 May 2016 20:39

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1905

FITZHUGH Marian E Chorlton-on-Medlock Archives+, Manchester Central Library CHO/203/82


Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1928
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FITZHUGH Marion Elizabeth ALTON Frederick Chorlton-on-Medlock Register Office or Registrar Attended Manchester

(1931 Birth looks to relate)

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php

Chris :)

edits

Deaths Dec 1931 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------
Alton Edna 0 Manchester S. 8d 240


https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=alton&yearOfDeath=1975&page=1#calendar

(Frederick, Death 1974)

safc

safc Report 28 May 2016 20:07

????


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
33 Whittaker St C on M Manchester, South Manchester, Lancashire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Thomas Hughes Head Married Male Engineer's Iron Miller 30 1881 Lancs Salford
Transcription
Hannah Hughes Wife Married Female - 32 1879 Lancs Salford
Transcription
Maria Hughes Daughter - Female - 6 1905 Lancs Manchester
Transcription
Hannah May Hughes Daughter - Female - 0 1911 Lancs Manchester
Transcription
Jane Baker Boarder Widow Female - 56 1855 Lancs Salford

married 7 years 4 children born 2 living 2 died

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 May 2016 18:29

this one maybe with a twin sister

Births Jun 1880
HODGSON Margaret Hannah Auckland 10a 178
HODGSON Mary Elizabeth Auckland 10a 178

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 May 2016 18:25

birth years all over the place

Births Mar 1877
HODSON Margaret Hannah Salford 8d 141

edit wrong spelling !!

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 May 2016 18:20

her mum ?

First name(s) MARGARET H
Last name FITZHUGH
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1879
Age 60
Death quarter 2
Death year 1939
District MANCHESTER
County Lancashire
Volume 8D
Page 287
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

safc

safc Report 28 May 2016 18:20

????

Name: Maria Elizabeth Fitzhugh
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 30 Dec 1904
Event Place: St Philip, Hulme, Lancashire, England
Residence Place:
Gender:
Age:
Marital Status:
Birth Date:
Birth Year:
Birth Year (Estimated):
Christening Date:
Marriage Date:
Marriage Year:
Burial Date:
Father's Name: Thomas Fitzhugh
Mother's Name: Hannah Fitzhugh
Spouse's Name:
Spouse's Residence Place:
Spouse's Gender:
Spouse's Age:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated):
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
GS Film Number: 2357300
Digital Folder Number: 004497804
Image Number: 00370



Citing this Record:
"England, Manchester, Parish Registers, 1603-1910," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FMBK-LJD : accessed 28 May 2016), Maria Elizabeth Fitzhugh, 30 Dec 1904, Christening; citing St Philip, Hulme, Lancashire, England, Archives Central Library, Manchester; FHL microfilm 2,357,300.

safc

safc Report 28 May 2016 18:15


Thomas Fitzhugh on the 1939 Register

1939 Register Transcription

Alton Household (5 People) 10 Henrietta Street , Stretford M.B., Lancashire, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Thomas Fitzhugh 22 Feb 1922 Male Driver Fitter Revolving Sheet Heavy Works Single 218 4
Frederick Alton 10 Dec 1904 Male Unpaid Domestic Married 218 1
Marian E Alton 22 Apr 1913 Female Hotel Waitress Married 218 2
Mary Alton 27 Feb 1881 Female Universal Grinder Heavy Works Single 218 3
Thomas C Fitzhugh 26 Aug 1886 Male Charhouseman Packer Single 218 5

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marion birth is 10 12 1904

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 May 2016 18:13

our post crossed

but that marian has a birth year of 1913 not 1904/5

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 May 2016 18:11

no wrong lady with the same name

Alton Household (5 People)
10 Henrietta Street , Stretford M.B., Lancashire, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Marian E Alton 22 Apr 1913 Female Hotel Waitress Married 218 2
Frederick Alton 10 Dec 1904 Male Unpaid Domestic Married 218 1
Mary Alton 27 Feb 1881 Female Universal Grinder Heavy Works Single 218 3
Thomas Fitzhugh 22 Feb 1922 Male Driver Fitter Revolving Sheet Heavy Works Single 218 4
Thomas C Fitzhugh 26 Aug 1886 Male Charhouseman Packer Single 218 5

but seem to be the one you found but she has a different birth year

Samantha

Samantha Report 28 May 2016 18:08

Yes she did marry Frederick Alton and in 1939 Thomas and Thomas C Fitzhugh were living with them.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 May 2016 18:06

could she have married before 1939?

Name: Marion E Fitzhugh
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1928
Registration district: South Manchester
Inferred County: Lancashire
Spouse: Frederick Alton
Volume Number: 8d
Page Number: 590

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 May 2016 17:58

only her birth at the moment

First name(s) MARIAN ELIZABETH
Last name FITZHUGH
Birth year 1905
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District CHORLTON
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 8C
Page 905

Samantha

Samantha Report 28 May 2016 17:57

I did think that but when I looked at birth records there was also a Mary Elizabeth. Thanks though.