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John

John Report 23 Dec 2016 22:25

I need more help please, I am unable to find Frederick Charles Lear born 1879 Gravesend Kent in the 1911 census. I found 2 children of the name Lear with their mother Daisy Richardson living in Gravesend as a boarder, states she is single, had 4 children with only 2 alive. No sign of the father Frederick Charles Lear, found no marriage and there was a death for him in nearby Strood Kent in 1940. Regarding Daisy Richardson born in Croydon but although there was Daisy Richardson born in Croydon, it is not the same Daisy Richardson because she was on the 1911 census as still living in Croydon . Appreciate any ideas please

safc

safc Report 23 Dec 2016 22:34

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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
4 Manor Road Gravesend, Gravesend, Kent, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
George Waller Worns Head Married Male Whitesmith 72 1839 Deptford London
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Jane Worns Wife Married Female - 71 1840 Rayleigh Essex
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William Perry Boarder Widower Male Housepainter 62 1849 Chelsford Essex
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Frederick Charles Leak Boarder Single Male General Smith 32 1879 Gravesend Kent xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

safc

safc Report 23 Dec 2016 22:36


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
23, Arthur Street, Gravesend, Kent, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Emily Lear Head Widow Female 43 1858 Sick Nurse Northfleet, Kent, England
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Thomas W Lear Son Single Male 25 1876 Carpenter Gravesend, Kent, England
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Frederick C Lear Son Single Male 21 1880 Blacksmith Gravesend, Kent, England xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Elizabeth H Lear Daughter Single Female 19 1882 - Gravesend, Kent, England
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Harry Lear Son Single Male 16 1885 Carpenter Gravesend, Kent, England
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Flow Lear Daughter Single Female 12 1889 - Gravesend, Kent, England

John

John Report 23 Dec 2016 23:41

Many thanks, no wonder I couldn't find him if under Leak., Obviously that's him in 1901 a Blacksmith and in 1911 General Smith. Makes me wonder why he and Daisy Richardson never married, both states single in 1911 , yet she had 4 children by him all given the surname of Lear.

John

John Report 23 Dec 2016 23:56

Hi SAFC, how did you find Frederick Charles Leak because I am on Ancestry and just looked through the 1911 census and unable to find him, which site do you go on. Would you be able to find Daisy Richardson born 1887 in Croydon so I know who her parents could be

safc

safc Report 24 Dec 2016 00:02

hi john
i put frederick charles 1880 plus or minus 1 year gravesend then looked through the results

i'm on find my past

John

John Report 24 Dec 2016 00:04

I have found him on Ancestry by looking for George Waller Worns and Frederick Charles is down as Leah. not Leak that is stated in the above post

John

John Report 24 Dec 2016 00:05

I have found him on Ancestry by looking for George Waller Worns and Frederick Charles is down as Leah. not Leak that is stated in the above post

safc

safc Report 24 Dec 2016 00:05


Frederick Charles Leak
England and Wales Census, 1911
Name Frederick Charles Leak
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
County Kent
Parish Gravesend
Sub-District Gravesend
Registration District Gravesend
Gender Male
Age 32
Birthplace Gravesend, Kent
Record Type Household
Citing this Record

"England and Wales Census, 1911," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWD6-96J : 20 January 2015), Frederick Charles Leak, Gravesend, Gravesend, Kent, England; from "1911 England and Wales census," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing PRO RG 14, The National Archives of the UK, Kew, Surrey.

John

John Report 24 Dec 2016 00:09

Sylvia not very technical when it comes to posting a census but will try. Unable to apply for a marriage certificate to find who her father was because it looks like they were both single in 1911 and I can't find a marriage

safc

safc Report 24 Dec 2016 00:10


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
5 Castle Cotts Gravesend, Gravesend, Kent, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Albert David Brooks Head Married Male Dock Labourer 45 1866 Kent Cuxton
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Ann Brooks Wife Married Female - 42 1869 London
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Daisy Richardson Boarder Single Female Laundress 30 1881 Croydon Surrey xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Harry Lear Boarder - Male School 6 1905 Kent Gravesend
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William Lear Boarder - Male School 4 1907 Kent Gravesend

born 1881

Sylvia

Sylvia Report 24 Dec 2016 00:20

Sorry John, I have delete my post as I got confused. Ignore me its late lol.

John

John Report 24 Dec 2016 00:25

Ok Sylia, good night

safc

safc Report 24 Dec 2016 00:26

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Marriages Dec 1918 (>99%)
Ainsworth Daisy V Lear Bethnal G. 1c 257
COLEMAN Emily Yeo Bethnal G. 1c 257
Lear Frederick C Ainsdworth Bethnal G. 1c 257
Yeo Daniel H G Colman Bethnal G. 1c 257

Sylvia

Sylvia Report 24 Dec 2016 00:28

Good night John

John

John Report 24 Dec 2016 00:33

SAFC, how strange it is coming up as Leak, upon looking at the census form 1911 ,it looks like Leah. I buy credits for look ups on here but pay yearly to be on here. Been on Ancestry for years and pay monthly. Can get into Family Search also. I find it too costly for look ups on here so go back onto Ancestry for them

John

John Report 24 Dec 2016 00:34

SAFC, how strange it is coming up as Leak, upon looking at the census form 1911 ,it looks like Leah. I buy credits for look ups on here but pay yearly to be on here. Been on Ancestry for years and pay monthly. Can get into Family Search also. I find it too costly for look ups on here so go back onto Ancestry for them

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 24 Dec 2016 07:10

The four children :

LEAR, FREDERICK THOMAS (Mothers maiden name RICHARDSON)
GRO Reference: 1904 M Quarter in GRAVESEND Volume 02A Page 669

Death:
First name(s) FREDERICK THOMAS
Last name LEAR
Gender Male
Birth year 1905
Age 1
Death quarter 1
Death year 1906
District GRAVESEND
County Kent
Volume 2A Page 404
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LEAR, HARRY ERNEST ALFRED (mmn RICHARDSON )
GRO Reference: 1905 J Quarter in GRAVESEND Volume 02A Page 648
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LEAR, WILLIAM FREDERICK (mmn RICHARDSON )
GRO Reference: 1907 M Quarter in GRAVESEND Volume 02A Page 669
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LEAR, FLORENCE DAISY (mmn RICHARDSON )
GRO Reference: 1909 S Quarter in GRAVESEND Volume 02A Page 690

Burial:
First name(s) Florence Daisy
Last name Lear
Birth year 1909
Burial year 1909
Burial date 10 Sep 1909
Residence Hospital Bath Street
Place Gravesend
Burial ground Municipal Cemetery
County Kent

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 24 Dec 2016 07:20

Frederick's Burial (note address):

North West Kent Burials Transcription

First name(s) Frederick Charles
Last name Lear
Age at death 59
Birth year 1881
Burial year 1940
Burial date 24 Jan 1940
Residence 23 Brook Rd. Northfleet <<<<<<<<<
Place Northfleet
Burial ground Municipal Cemetery
County Kent
Notes Labourer
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This is him on the 1939 register living with his sister, Elizabeth H Bannister, nee Lear (mistranscribed as Frederick R Jean!- original is Frederick C Lear):

Bannister Household (7 People) 23 Brook Road , Northfleet U.D., Kent, England

Ernest A Bannister 12 Apr 1882 Male Carpenter Married
Elizabeth H Bannister 19 Jan 1882 Female Unpd Dom Duties Married
Harry Bannister 26 Nov 1912 Male Plasterer Single
Fred Bannister 02 Oct 1915 Male General Labourer Single
George V Bannister 29 Sep 1918 Male Paper Maker Single
Vera G Gould (Bannister) 30 Mar 1921 Female Paper Maker Single
Frederick R Jean 03 Oct 1880 Male General Smith Single <<<<<
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Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 24 Dec 2016 07:41

Baptism
County Kent
Place Gravesend
Church name St James
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 1431
Baptism date 20 Aug 1876
Birth date 12 Jul 1875
Person forename Thomas Walter
Person sex M
Person abode 2 Somerset Pl
Father forename Thomas James
Father surname LEAR
Father occupation Bricklayer
Mother forename Emily


Baptism
County Kent
Place Gravesend
Church name St James
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 1514
Baptism date 21 Oct 1877
Person forename Emily Florence
Person sex F
Person abode 2 Somerset Place
Father forename Thomas James
Father surname LEAR
Father occupation Labourer
Mother forename Emily


Baptism
County Kent
Place Gravesend
Church name St George
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 1674
Baptism date 22 Aug 1886
Birth date 08 Aug 1886
Person forename Harry
Person sex M
Person abode 29 Nine Elms Grove
Father forename Thomas James
Father surname LEAR
Father occupation Bricklayer
Mother forename Emily


Burial
County Kent
Place Gravesend
Church name St George
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 498
Burial date 22 Apr 1899
Person age 45
Burial person forename Thomas James
Burial person surname LEAR
Burial person abode Arthur Street

(some above, if anything else on below)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

Chris :)

Edits (think should have been 1884!)


Births Sep 1884 (>99%)
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LEAR Harry Gravesend 2a 494


Deaths Dec 1975 (>99%)
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Lear Harry 8au1884 Dartford 16 986


County Kent
Place Gravesend
Church name St George
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 1741
Marriage date 26 Dec 1905
Groom forename Harry
Groom surname LEAR
Groom age 21
Groom condition bachelor
Groom abode 13a Church Street
Groom occupation Carpenter
Bride forename Ellen Elizabeth
Bride surname SUTHERLAND
Bride age 20
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode 5 Stony Ally Gravesend
Groom father forename Thomas
Groom father surname LEAR
Groom father occupation Journeyman Bricklayer
Bride father forename William
Bride father surname SUTHERLAND
Bride father occupation Fishmonger
Witness Charlotte WADE
Witness Mary SUTHERLAND


1939 Register (Find My Past)

14 Stewart Road , Gravesend M.B., Kent,
Harry Lear 08 Aug 1884 Male Carpenter & Joiner Married
Ellen E Lear 17 Feb 1885 Female Domestic Duties Married
William T Sutherland 13 Jul 1857 Male Fisherman Widowed


Baptism
County Kent
Place Gravesend
Church name St George
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 85
Baptism date 22 Mar 1925
Birth date 24 Feb 1925
Person forename Ellen Katherine
Person sex F
Person abode 9 West Street
Father forename Harry
Father surname LEAR
Father occupation Carpenter
Mother forename Ellen Elizabeth