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Hi AustinQ

No unfortunately I don't have a death for Denis.

Jane

I was thinking of a child of Daughter - Mary Alice on 1939 register having married 1928

Overton Household (2 People)
9 Redbourn Close , Scunthorpe M.B., Lincolnshire (Parts of Lindsey), England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Mary Alice Overton 09 Aug 1907 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 178 2
Alfred William Overton 30 Oct 1907 Male Blacksmith Striker Heavy Worker Married 178 1
Ref: RG101/6449H/018/9 Letter Code: TMOE

2 closed records - children born 1929 and 1933 ( another child born 1931 died 1933). Further 3 children

Just to definitely rule out the Denis born in Norwich- he's on the 1939 with his parents:

Gray Household (6 People) 39 Buxton Road , Norwich C.B., Norfolk, England

Harry Gray 17 Feb 1891 Male Ganger Norwich Corporation Married
Eliza E Gray 04 Mar 1892 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Jessie L Andrews (Blanch) 11 Jul 1918 Female Seeking Work Boot Machinist Single
Harry H Gray 18 Jan 1921 Male Boot Repairer Master Single
Stanley F Gray 30 Aug 1923 Male Boot Trade Bench Hand Making Re? Single
Dennis Gray 18 Mar 1927 Male At School Single

greyhost

I think these are Mary alice's children. If she had a child before her marriage to Alfred Overton I do not know about it, but you could be right.

Overton Glanford B. 7a 986 1929
overton Gland brigg Sept 1931
Overton gland brigg 1933

All the best

Jane

Deliberately didn't name as 2 of the 3 could still be living. There also appears to be 3 born later after the 1939 register. They are her children with Alfred.

1891 census with John William and Mary E

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Screeds, Ashby, Glanford Brigg, Lincolnshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Gray Head Married Male 32 1859 Furnace Labourer Rawcliffe, Yorkshire, England
Alice Maria Gray Wife Married Female 32 1859 - Amcotts, Lincolnshire, England
John William Gray Son - Male 11 1880 Scholar Newland, Lincolnshire, England
Elizabeth Elwitt Gray Daughter - Female 9 1882 Scholar Newland, Lincolnshire, England
Hannah Jane Gray Daughter - Female 4 1887 - Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire, England
Mary E Gray Daughter Single Female 0 1891 - Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire, England
Charles T D Insull Visitor - Male 3 1888 - Frodingham, Lincolnshire, England

UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Name: Denis Gray
Birth Date: 6 Apr 1927
Age: 30
Occupation: Metallurgist
Married
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 4 Nov 1957
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
UK Address: 10 Weekes Close, Llanrumney, Cardiff
Ship Name: Queen Mary
Shipping line: Cunard Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 7602/01
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At least two children born in Cardiff to the Gray/ Nobbs marriage- so it looks to be the correct marriage

Thanks greyghost

Mary ethal had left home by 1911 census. Not sue whether she had married or died.

Jane

????

if this is kate watson she is not married when she had her son


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

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First name(s) Kate
Last name Watson
Relationship Inmate
Marital status Single
Sex Female
Occupation Domestic Servant
Age 21
Birth year 1890
Birth place Yorkshire Hull
Address Harton South Shields
Parish Harton
County Durham
Country England
Archive reference RG14
Registration district South Shields
Registration district number 556
Enumeration district 86
District number -
Sub district South Shields
Sub district number 1
Census reference RG14PN30345 RD556 SD1 ED86 SN9999
Piece number 30345
Folio -
Page -
Other household member first name(s) -
Other household member last name -
Record set 1911 Census for England & Wales
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Census
Collections from Great Britain

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Just checking you haven't missed the posted passenger list above

Thanks AustinQ

I will send for that marriage cert as it is looking good based on that passenger list you found. Thanks for that.

safc Yes that is my Kate on the 1911. She was single when she married John Gray. Although I will have to find her marriage cert just to make sure.

Thanks again for all your help.

Jane