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Pauline

Pauline Report 24 Feb 2017 09:44

Trying to find Bishop family in 1939 in edgware middx area. Mother Hilda, and father was a fruit and veg seller, may have been 2 sons and 1 daughter.
Thanks

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Feb 2017 09:47

Will take a look

Dea

Dea Report 24 Feb 2017 09:49

What was the husband's name please and approx when were they born?

Dea x

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Feb 2017 09:51

Some more names and birth years would help

There's no bishops in Edgware but several Hilda bishops in other areas of Middlesex

Would help to pinpoint the right family with more names please :-)

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 24 Feb 2017 09:52

1939 TRANSCRIPTION
Bishop Household (3 People)
10 Brinkburn Gardens , Wembley M.B., Middlesex, England

Hilda Bishop
DOB 09 May 1908
SEX Female
OCCUPATION Unpaid Domestic Duties
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 47
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 2

James Frederick Bishop
DOB 04 Jan 1907
SEX Male
OCCUPATION ??? (Wholesale greengrocer and retail fruiterer on image)
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 47
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 1

James Frederick Bishop
DOB 31 Dec 1926
SEX Male
OCCUPATION At School
MARITAL STATUS Single
SCHEDULE 47
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 4
Ref: RG101/0960A/006/19 Letter Code: BWFW
© Findmypast Ltd


One closed record before James Frederick

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 24 Feb 2017 09:58

Above looks correct:

Bishop Household (3 People) 10 Brinkburn Gardens , Wembley M.B., Middlesex, England

James Frederick Bishop 04 Jan 1907 Male Wholesale Greengrocer & retail ??? Married
Hilda Bishop 09 May 1908 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Closed Record
James Frederick Bishop 31 Dec 1926 Male At School Single
Closed Record

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 24 Feb 2017 10:01

Well spotted AustinQ. I had missed the closed record below James Frederick Junior.

Pauline

Pauline Report 24 Feb 2017 10:03

Thank you Root gatherer. That is correct family.
The closed record, would that be older or younger than james F?
Looking for daughter b 1935/1936. (also called Hilda)
The address was edgware, but came under the wembley (now Brent) town hall

Pauline

Pauline Report 24 Feb 2017 10:05

Thanks Austin. I guess my question above answered! I thought there where 2 sona
Will look for marriage now.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 24 Feb 2017 10:56

If this is Hilda's birth registration....

Births Mar 1936 (>99%)
Births Mar 1936 (>99%)
Bishop Hilda E Bassett Pancras 1b 183
MACEACHERN Hilda E Bassett Pancras 1b 183

Is seems James and Hilda didn't marry until 1948

Marriages Jun 1948 (>99%)

Bassett Hilda Bishop Willesden 5f 598
Bishop Hilda Bishop Willesden 5f 598
Bishop James F Bishop Willesden 5f 598
Bishop James F MacEachern Willesden 5f 598
Bishop James F Bassett Willesden 5f 598
MacEachern Hilda Bishop Willesden 5f 598


Hilda had been married before.......

Marriages Sep 1928 (>99%)
BASSETT Hilda MACEACHERN Chelmsford 4a 1847
MacEachern Sidney D A Bassett Chelmsford 4a 1847

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 24 Feb 2017 11:01

If this is the son James F Bishop's birth registration......

Births Dec 1926 (>99%)
Bishop James F Hickey Pancras 1b 135

His father previously married a Hickey

Marriages Dec 1926 (>99%)
Bishop James F Hickey Pancras 1b 137
Hickey Elizabeth R Bishop Pancras 1b 137
Hickey Hannah E Walker Pancras 1b 137
Walker Percy A T Hickey Pancras 1b 137

Pauline

Pauline Report 24 Feb 2017 11:08

Gosh Pickles. I did find that marr, and thought that it was the son!
The 1936 birth of daughter, don't understand why both names? Do you suppose that it was changed when the parents got married ?
I am wondering if Hilda was the mother of the 2 boys? Maybe James also was married before? as Hilda was married in 1928 and James jnr was b 1926
Looks interesting!

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 24 Feb 2017 11:08

Hilda Bishop in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Hilda Bishop
Birth Date: 9 May 1908
Date of Registration: Mar 1977
Age at Death: 68
Registration district: Chelmsford
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 9
Page: 1979

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 24 Feb 2017 11:09

Complicated isn't it?

:-S

Pauline

Pauline Report 24 Feb 2017 11:11

Cross post, Yes I also found the Hickey one, so I think the son's where not Hildas
Maybe James first wife died in 1948 ish?Need to delve deeper into both first marriages, me thinks.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 24 Feb 2017 11:14

Sidney remarried.......

Sidney D A Maceachern in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Sidney D A Maceachern
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1939
Registration district: Medway
Inferred County: Kent
Spouse: Elizabeth P Day
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 4078

Pauline

Pauline Report 24 Feb 2017 11:18

So there was a divorce then for Hilda. There was always some thing "not quiet right" shall we say , about the family. Nay thing on Hilda junior? that's my main research
Thanks

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 24 Feb 2017 11:31

It seems Hannah E Hickey married Percy A T Walker

Hannah E Hickey in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Hannah E Hickey
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1926
Registration district: Pancras
Inferred County: Middlesex
Spouse: Percy A T Walker
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 137

So James's first wife must have been Elizabeth R Hickey.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 24 Feb 2017 11:53

There is a possible marriage for Hilda Jn..

To a Mr Cragg in 1969.

A possible second marriage to a Mr Williams in 1981.

Do you know her middle name?

Pauline

Pauline Report 24 Feb 2017 17:44

Do not know second name but looks like begins with E
Because had same name as mother, she was known as MICKEY