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yeah trice me having a mad moment ! sorry

Julie
Do you know his actual birth date ? This could help find his death if it was after 1966 as it is listed in the index

I did find a William Newland (his stepfathers surname) who died Barnet Herts (the pub connection) in Oct 1984 aged 92. His birth date was given as 30/1/1892 which fits with the registration of WGT in Farnham in Mar Quarter of 1892
But it is only worth spending money on if that birth date matches your knowledge
As for his WW2 record -would he not have been too old -47 when it started?

Gillian you are fantasic!!!! I think you could be on to something here !!!
Going back through my notes to see if there is more info I can add to help
Will be back in a mo

He sounds like such a character changing his name, I wonder if he had a criminal record ?

He married great grandma - Blanche Violet Baker in 1915
Infomation from Marriage cert -

13th October 1915 Portsmouth
William George Trice/ 23 years/ Bachelor/ Bombardier R.F.A/
54 Elm Road Llile End/ His Fathers Name William George Trice deceased/Profession Sergent Major O.S.C

Had my nan in 1922 (Joan Trice)
That puts his date of birth in 1892

I just found this doing a google search

http://www.military-genealogy.com/nameShow?war=1&sid=498548

William Newland Baker


The information about the person below comes from the 'Soldiers Died in the Great War 1914 to 1919' database, a service provided by The Naval & Military Press through the Military-Genealogy.com web site

He cant of died in the war as the family did see him

But the names used are kinda what we are looking for. I wonder .....

Do you think I should send for the cert then of William Newland ?(the stepfathers surname)

who died Barnet Herts (the pub connection) in Oct 1984 aged 92. 30/1/1892 which fits with the registration of WGT in Farnham in Mar Quarter of 1892

Not unless you can confirm the actual date of birth (by sending for his birth cert if you do not already know it)

I only have the dates from the marriage cert so I will send off for the Birth, once it arrives I will send for the death.
I wish that my Nan was alive to find out what happened to her father, sadly she died in January.

A 70 year mystery could be a week away from being solved, thank you Gillian for all your time and help, you are a credit to Genes Reunited!
I

I wonder who the informant of death will be maybe a half brother or sister to my Nan?
I cant wait to see..........

I been told that the "William Newland" was born and Married in Hitchin
So we we maybe back to square one

OK but it is still worth getting his birth cert to see if his actual date of birth is given -then if you post it here we could search with that info for any William George who died with that date of birth

ok will do :)

Yes I have the birth Cert here !!!



Regstration District= Farnham

1892 birth in the dristrict of Frimley

in the Counties of Surrey and Southampton

No= 325

Born= 8th Feb 1892 Female Hospital, Aldershot Hants

Name=William George

Sex=Boy

Father=William James Trice

Mother=Rose Ellen Trice, formerly Quincey (this is what it looks like hard to read)

Occupation of Father=Corporal.... "Ordnanec" ? Stove Corps (hard to read)

Informant=W J Trice, South Carvnp ? Aldershot

British Army Service Records 1760-1913 Transcription

First name(s): William James

Last name: TRICE

Calculated year of birth: 1863

Parish of birth: Chatham

Town of birth: Chatham

County of birth: Kent

Age at attestation: 22 years 4 months

Attestation date: 14 April 1885

Attestation corps: Royal Artillery

Attestation soldier number: 2268

Discharge rank:

Discharge corps:

Discharge soldier number:

The National Archives reference: WO97 / 4045 / 104


(deceased - 24th August 1895)


Mother - Maryann, 10 St Aubyn Street, Devonport, Devon


Married to Rose Whittick (Widow) in Woolwich in 1887 *******


Marriages Dec 1887 (>99%)
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Trice William James Woolwich 1d 1735
Whittick Rose Ellen Woolwich 1d 1735 ******



Marriages Sep 1879 (>99%)
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QUINCEY Rose Ellen Woolwich 1d 1500 ******
Whittick John James Woolwich 1d 1500

possibly -


Births Dec 1861 (>99%)
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Trice William James Medway 2a 368

1871 -

BRAND, William Head M 45 1826 Kent VIEW
BRAND, Mary Wife F 45 1826 Kent VIEW
BRAND, Louisa A Daughter F 15 1856 Kent VIEW
BRAND, William Son M 13 1858 Kent VIEW
BRAND, John Son M 10 1861 Kent VIEW
BRAND, Lydia Daughter F 8 1863 Kent VIEW
******TRICE, Benjamin Visitor M 12 1859 Kent VIEW
******TRICE, William Visitor M 9 1862 Kent VIEW

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RG number:
RG10 Piece:
904 Folio:
126 Page:
26

Registration District:
Medway Sub District:
Rochester Enumeration District:
18 Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Chatham Municipal Borough:
Address:
Dale Street, Chatham County:
Kent



1861 -


PRICE, Benjamin Head Married M 25 1836 Shipwrights
Chatham
Kent VIEW
*******PRICE, Mary Ann Wife Married F 26 1835 Wife
Rochester
Kent VIEW
*******PRICE, Benjamin Son Unmarried M 2 1859
Chatham
Kent VIEW

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RG number:
RG09 Piece:
482 Folio:
118 Page:
23

Registration District:
Medway Sub District:
2 Gillingham Enumeration District:
25 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Pauls

Civil Parish:
Chatham Municipal Borough:
Address:
22, Skinner Street, Chatham County:
Kent



William's brother -


Births Dec 1858 (>99%)
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Trice Benjamin Medway 2a 328

1871 -

FIELD, Richard Head M 30 1841 Middlesex VIEW
FIELD, Caroline Wife F 36 1835 Kent VIEW
FIELD, Mary E Daughter F 0 1871 Middlesex VIEW
TRICE, Benjamin Visitor M 35 1836 Kent VIEW (Draughtsman, Chatham Yard) born Chatham
TRICE, Mary Ann Visitor F 36 1835 Kent VIEW - born Rochester
TRICE, George Visitor M 3 1868 Kent VIEW - born Chatham
TRICE, Harry Visitor M 1 1870 Kent VIEW - born Chatham

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RG number:
RG10 Piece:
298 Folio:
92 Page:
55

Registration District:
Islington Sub District:
Islington, East Enumeration District:
52 Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
St Mary Islington Municipal Borough:
Address:
Bedford Terrace, St Mary Islington County:
London, Middlesex




Births Dec 1867 (>99%)
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Trice George Medway 2a 440

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Births Sep 1869 (>99%)
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Trice Harry Medway 2a 440

1881

TRICE, Benjamin Head Married M 45 1836 Foreman Shipwright
Chatham
Kent VIEW
TRICE, Mary A Wife Married F 46 1835
Rochester
Kent VIEW
TRICE, George Son Single M 13 1868 Scholar
Chatham
Kent VIEW
TRICE, Harry Son Single M 11 1870 Scholar
Chatham
Kent VIEW
FRANKLIN, Sarah J Cousin Single F 17 1864 General Servant
Sheerness
Kent VIEW

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RG number:
RG11 Piece:
2206 Folio:
72 Page:
6

Registration District:
Stoke-Damerel Sub District:
St Aubyn Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Devonport Stoke-Damerel Municipal Borough:
Address:
22, St Aubyn St, Devonport Stoke-Damerel County:
Devonshire