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Yesterday i found out my grandfather committed suicide in 1936, before i was born

John Smith DOB 1874 Bolton Lancashire, DIED JUNE 1936 BOLTON LANCS
he married Mary Rainford in1899 they had six children 3 died in infancy

is anyone able to see whats on the DEATH CERT for me as to how he died or will i have to send off for it
any help with this would be fab
thank you
alison

Smith Family History Project of Lancashire, WR Yor ...


www.smithfamilies.org.uk/Contact/GuestbookJune2007-Sept2010

The Smith Family History Project of Lancashire, ... Guestbook June 2007 ... I know THE John Smith was supposed to have borne no children ?? ...

Thanks Ann but this one defo had children & i've just looked through the link you sent me & i can't find any ref to him at all

Thanks Claire in Wales
yes looks like that's him

Ali you may find out more by looking at the local newspapers which are often available at the local library (meaning Bolton)

Thanks Claire, if only i lived in Bolton lol!

Trying to find newspaper reports on him - Can anyone tell me if FMP is still down??

Dea Xxx

Manchester Cityy Library has also 'kicked me out' !!!!!!!!!!!!

:-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-(

Dea x

Bless you, thank you Dea x

Hi Ali -that website is for ALL Smith's - not just the one in the heading

You would have to send for the death certificate, unlike Scotland they are not on line, but you may find a newspaper report as already suggested. You might be able to ring/email the local records office/local studies office who may (? for a fee) look up in the local papers for you.

Not had a problem with FMP today - and not seeing anything on their newspaper collection site which for Lancashire only appears to cover 1930/31/37/38

Thank you Greyghost -I have not been able to get into FMP all day !!!!

Will try another link !

Dea xxx

Thank you Greyghost

Thank you again Dea x

I am back into FMP but the Manchester Library seems to have changed their rules and i cannot access it !!! :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-(

Dea Xxx

Thanks again for all your help with this Dea

Thank you all for trying, what would i ever do without you all

kind regards

alison x

Hi Guys

I sent off for the DEATH CERT & i now have it back, it says

No.....264

When & where died......17th May 1936 The Bolton & Bury Canal, Darcy Lever Bolton UD

Name & Surname......... JOHN SMITH

Sex......Male

Age......62 years

Occupation........Of 19 Cromer Avenue, Tonge, Bolton UD, Self Actor? Action? Winder

Cause of Death.....Self Drowning Whilst temporarily of unsound mind

Signature, description & residence of informant.......Cert received from Harold Fairbrother, Coroner for Bolton, Inquest held 19th may 1936

When reg..........19th May 1936


We have been trying find news clip of this suicide, but can't seem to access

any more help whit this now i have the facts would be very much appreciated

kind regards

alison

Self-acting Minder
Self Actor Minder

Watched and minded the 'Self Acting Mule' - the name of a multi thread spinning machine. The original Mule was hand operated and was invented by Samuel Crompton of Bolton in 1779. It was made self-acting by Richard Roberts in 1830.

Dea x

Thanks Dea,
was wondering what that meant, we guessed it had something to do with with Cotton Factory's

Not seeing anything on FMP within the newspaper section, but the only Lancashire paper covered appears to be Burnley.

Think you might have to contact local papers - at least with the dates now you can narrow down the look up required.

It seems an awfully short time between the death, registration and burial, the coroner must have got a move on!

Thank you Greyghost for all your help

try contacting the Local Archives and Study Centre in Bolton .............. Google for address


Ask if they have old newspapers on file, as microfiche or digitised


Give them the details from the death certificate ............ name, date died, where died, date of inquest, name of coroner

Ask if they could please check relevant newspapers to see if there are any articles from the day of his death to 2 weeks AFTER the inquest date.


There may be a charge




You may be lucky, and find a report in a little local paper