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That isn't the right one RG - it's the one Shirley has got herself confused with

We know the mother is Catherine because Mary SENIOR is living with her after her marriage

An earlier marriage for Thomas? Accounting for Mary's grandparents named Williams.

Marriages Dec 1855 (>99%)
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FOXLEY Thomas Nantwich 8a 383
WILLIAMS Sarah Nantwich 8a 383

Oops! That's another oops, it's just a year before the other marriage. Think we're getting 2 families mixed up. At least I am.

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Catherine Clark
England Births and Christenings
Name: Catherine Clark
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 1829
Christening Place: GREAT BUDWORTH, CHESHIRE, ENGLAND
Father's Name: James Clark
Mother's Name: Betty

Andrew also posted that one, Margee, but I can't think that it's relevant, to be honest

Told you I was getting confused, Jacqueline. So is that the wrong 1861 census where Mary Foxley is with the Williams grandparents?

As I said earlier, I think that George is a GREAT grandfather.................look at his age

Although it could easily be the wrong Mary, as she is a little older, and the birthplace is not the same as in later years

I do, however, feel fairly confident about the other censuses

The one SURE thing is that she was definitely NOT the Mary Elizabeth born c1860

Yes, of course you're right, Jacqueline. She was great grandaughter of George. I even went back to the original to see if it had been mistranscribed but it just says grandaughter.

Amazing how may trees on Ancestry have her as Mary Elizabeth born 1860.

Ah well, we know how reliable Ancestry trees are....don't we?

Thanks for help so far. There is a lot for me to take note of.
Shirley

I wonder if the Mary with grandparents in 1861 is the daughter of Thomas Foxley and Sarah Williams (Andrew posted their marriage).

George and Mary Williams did have a daughter Sarah.

1851

George Williams
Age: 52
Estimated birth year: abt 1799
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Williams
Gender: Male
Where born: Malpas, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Baddiley
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County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Nantwich
Sub-registration district: Bunbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 37
Piece: 2170
Folio: 299
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
George Williams 52
Mary Williams 52
Sarah Williams 14 <<<<<<<
Frances Williams 12
Jane Williams

Hi Folks
Still sifting through all the info. you are kindly giving me. Just realised I forgot to mention that one of the witnesses for William/Mary's wedding was a Jane Foxley.

Perhaps buying both of these certificates would determine who's who.

Births Dec 1856 (>99%)
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Foxley Mary Nantwich 8a 270


Births Jun 1860 (>99%)
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Foxley Mary Elizabeth Northwich 8a 234

One thing I have learned since I have been doing family trees is that a lot of people never actually knew their exact date of birth they just gave 'thereabouts'. ie. Mary has 3 different dates 1881 census -b.1855, 1891 c. b. 1860, 1901 and 1911 c. b. 1859

She was 19 when she married!

Thanks everyone. You have been really helpful :-D

Diocese of Chester Bishop's Transcripts of Baptisms c1600-1910 Transcription
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First name(s) MARY
Last name FOXLEY
Age -
Gender Female
Birth year 1856
Birth date -
Baptism year 1856
Baptism date 12 Oct 1856
Church -
Place ACTON (NEAR NANTWICH)
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Father's last name Foxley
Mother's first name(s) Sarah
Mother's last name -
County Cheshire
Country England
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Record collection Births & baptisms
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Uh oh!!!

Diocese of Chester Bishop's Transcripts of Baptisms c1600-1910 Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) MARY
Last name FOXLEY
Gender Female
Birth year 1856
Baptism year 1856
Baptism date 12 Oct 1856
Place ACTON (NEAR NANTWICH)
Father's first name(s) Thomas (Labourer)
Father's last name Foxley
Mother's first name(s) Sarah
(Abode, Burland)

(one of Births posted, not seeing other)

Chris :)

edits (apologies to safc, just seen!)

So do you think that she's the one who married Wm. Senior in 1875? But then Shirley says that on the 81 census they're living with her widowed mother Catherine.

Edit: Just checked the original of that census and it doesn't really say that Mary is the daughter of Catherine, it says that the Seniors are lodgers.

Cheshire Death indexes for the years: 1859
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
FOXLEY Sarah - Congleton Cheshire East CON/18/12