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June

June Report 14 Nov 2015 12:46

Hi, I'm trying to trace Isabella Hopper, born about 1874 probably in Co. Durham or Northumberland, died after 1953. As far as I know she was unmarried and owned or part owned a sweet factory in possible North Shields. She died without leaving a will and her estate was divided between her direct family who included the Carr family from Gateshead, Tyne and Wear, (previously Co Durham) My father and his siblings received a 1/360th share. Any help would be much appreciated.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Nov 2015 12:58

Have you found her on any censuses?

I can't find an Isabella Hopper described as confectioner, or similar.

This one may be a possibility - unmarried. (Ancestry mistakenly includes a family called Storey in the record - but they're at a different address).:

Isabella Hopper
in the 1911 England Census

Name: Isabella Hopper
Age in 1911: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Relation to Head: Sister
Gender: Female
Birth Place: North Shields, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Tynemouth
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address: 53 Collingwood View, North Shields
Marital Status: Single
Registration district: Tynemouth
Registration District Number: 559
Sub-registration district: Tynemouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Piece: 30757
Household Members:
Name Age

Isabella Hopper 38
Edwin Hopper 22 - brother

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Nov 2015 13:04

IF (and only IF !) that's her, then here she is in 1891 with parents and siblings:

Isabella Hopper

in the 1891 England Census
Name: Isabella Hopper
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: George Hopper
Mother's name: Margaret Hopper
Gender: Female
Where born: North Shields, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Chirton
Ecclesiastical parish: Western Town
Town: North Shields
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Registration district: Tynemouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4224
Folio: 20
Page Number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age
George Hopper 42
Margaret Hopper 45
George Hopper 21
Isabella Hopper 19
William Hopper 16
Mary Hopper 13
Joseph Hopper 11
Edwin Hopper 2

malyon

malyon Report 14 Nov 2015 13:04

Isabella Hopper
England and Wales Birth Registration Index
Name Isabella Hopper
Event Type Birth Registration
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year 1874
Registration District Tynemouth
County Northumberland
Event Place Tynemouth, Northumberland, England
Volume 10B
Page 190
Line Number 213

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Nov 2015 13:08

You say she died "after 1953".

When did your father receive his share of her estate?

Could this possibly be her death? It's quite a while after 1953. If so, the death cert might provide clues as to her family.

Isabella Hopper

in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Isabella Hopper
Birth Date: abt 1874
Date of Registration: Jun 1962
Age at Death: 88
Registration district: Durham North Western
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 1a
Page: 499

malyon

malyon Report 14 Nov 2015 13:10

1881 census


Name Isabella Hopper
Event Type Census
Event Date 1881
Event Place Preston, Northumberland, England
Registration District Tynemouth
Gender Female
Age 8
Marital Status (Original) Single
Occupation Scholar
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Birth Year (Estimated) 1873
Birthplace North Shields, Northumberland, England
Page Number 64
Registration Number RG11
Piece/Folio 5077/95
Affiliate Record Type Household
HOUSEHOLD

ROLE

GENDER

AGE

BIRTHPLACE

George Hopper Head M 33 North Shields, Northumberland, England
Margaret A Hopper Wife F 34 North Shields, Northumberland, England
George Hopper Son M 10 North Shields, Northumberland, England
Isabella Hopper Daughter F 8 North Shields, Northumberland, England
William Hopper Son M 6 North Shields, Northumberland, England
Mary Hopper Daughter F 3 North Shields, Northumberland, England
Joseph Hopper Son M 1 North Shields, Northumberland, England
CITING THIS RECORD

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Nov 2015 13:21

Welch's (now no more) is the only sweet factory I can find online mention of in North Shields.
Can't find any history of it, though.

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/sweet-factory-jobs-at-risk-1601742

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Nov 2015 13:26

Possible marriage of George and Margaret ???:

Marriages Sep 1869 (>99%)
HOPPER George Tynemouth 10b 308 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Robinson George Tynemouth 10b 308
SCOTT Isabella Tynemouth 10b 308
WEAR Margaret Tynemouth 10b 308 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<


Potty

Potty Report 14 Nov 2015 14:24

There is this one:


Name:Isabella Hopper
Probate Date:9 Jul 1959
Registry:Newcastle Upon Tyne
Death Date:26 Apr 1959
Death Place:Newcastle Upon Tyne

She was a spinster, living at 21 Coniston Avenue, West Jesmond. Administration to Mary Jane Morley, widow, and Lily Coates (wife of Andrew Coates). Effects £5477 7s 9d.

Potty

Potty Report 14 Nov 2015 14:26

Death Reg for the above:


Name:Isabella Hopper
Birth Date:abt 1869
Date of Registration:Jun 1959
Age at Death:90
Registration district:Newcastle upon Tyne
Inferred County:Northumberland
Volume:1b
Page:145

June

June Report 15 Nov 2015 14:55

Thank you all for your help, the one I can definitely connect to my Isabella Hopper is yours Potty as I have a copy of the final distribution showing the Trustees as Mrs M J Morland and Mrs L Coates. I should be able to trace her and confirm the connection to my family was through my gggrandfather. Once again thanks for all your quick replies and information x x

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Nov 2015 17:58

I can only see two unmarried Isabella Hoppers born 1869, in 1911:

This is perhaps the more likely of the two:

Isabella Hopper
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Isabella Hopper
Age in 1911: 43
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Walker, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Heaton
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address: 46 Wandsworth Road Heaton Newcastle on Tyne
Marital Status: Single
Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
Registration District Number: 558
Sub-registration district: Byker
ED, institution, or vessel: 36
Piece: 30692
Household Members:
Name Age
Isabella Hopper 83 - widow
Elizabeth Hopper 45 - shop manageress
Isabella Hopper 43 - no occupation listed



Isabella Hopper
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Isabella Hopper
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: Thomas Hopper
Mother: Isabella Hopper
Birth Place: Walker, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Heaton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Silas
Town: Newcastle upon Tyne
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: Byker
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4793
Folio: 61
Page Number: 39
Household schedule number: 258
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Hopper 72 - retired sawyer
Isabella Hopper 73
Elizabeth Hopper 35 - dairymaid
Isabella Hopper 33 - no occupation listed



Isabella Hopper
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Isabella Hopper
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Thomas Hopper
Mother's name: Isabella Hopper
Gender: Female
Where born: Walker, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Elswick
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephens
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
:Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4194
Folio: 82
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Hopper 62 - sawmill foreman
Isabella Hopper 63
Elizabeth Hopper 23 - rubber stamp business
Isabella Hopper 23 - ditto



Isabella Hopper
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Isabella Hopper
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: Thomas Hopper
Mother: Isabella Hopper
Gender: Female
Where born: Longbenton, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Longbenton
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address: 78 Mitchell Street
Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Tynemouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5084
Folio: 82
Page Number: 58
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Hopper 52 - sawyer
Isabella Hopper 53
Elizabeth Hopper 15 - dressmaker
Isabella Hopper 13 - scholar



Isabella Hopper
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Isabella Hopper
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Thomas Hopper
Mother's name: Isabella Hopper
Gender: Female
Where born: Northd, Longbenton
Civil Parish: Walker
Ecclesiastical parish: Walker
Town: Walker
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub-registration district: Longbenton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 235
Piece: 5123
Folio: 48
Page Number: 44
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Hopper 42 - timber frame sawyer
Isabella Hopper 43
Elizabeth Hopper 5
Isabella Hopper 3

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Nov 2015 18:13

On the other hand, the other single Isabella Hopper is living on private means in 1911:


Isabella Hopper
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Isabella Hopper
Age in 1911: 43
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation to Head: Sister
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Berwick On Tweed, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Berwick upon Tweed
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address: 6 Castle Terrace Berwick On Tweed
Marital Status: Single
Registration district: Berwick
Registration District Number: 567
Sub-registration district: Berwick upon Tweed
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Piece: 31113
Household Members:
Name Age
Frances Hopper 45 - private means
Isabella Hopper 43 - sister, private means



The private means were presumably inherited from their father, who was an innkeeper:

Isabella Hoppe
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Isabella Hoppe
[Isabella Hopper]
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: Christopher Hoppe
Mother: Isabella Hoppe
Birth Place: Berwick, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Berwick upon Tweed
Ecclesiastical parish: Berwick upon Tweed Holy Trinity
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Registration district: Berwick
Sub-registration district: Berwick upon Tweed
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4844
Folio: 14
Page Number: 19
Household schedule number: 106
Household Members:
Name Age
Christopher Hoppe - retired keeper of refreshment rooms
Isabella Hoppe 72
Frances Hoppe 35
Isabella Hoppe 33
Eliza Thompson 16 - servant



Isabella Hopper

in the 1891 England Census
Name: Isabella Hopper
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Isabella Hopper
Gender: Female
Where born: Berwick, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Berwick upon Tweed
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Berwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4267
Folio: 14
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Isabella Hopper 61
Christopher Hopper 24 - son
Jane Hopper 19 - daughter-in-law
Christopher Hopper 10/12 - grandson
Isabella Hopper 23
Margaret S Wallace 18 - servant



Isabella Happer
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Isabella Happer
[Isabella Hopper]
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Christopher Happer
Mother's name: Isabella Happer
Gender: Female
Where born: Berwick-Upon-Tweed, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Berwick
Ecclesiastical parish: Berwick
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Registration district: Berwick
Sub-registration district: Berwick Upon Tweed
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 3
Piece: 5181
Folio: 22
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Christopher Happer 36 - innkeeper, Railway Hotel
Isabella Happer 40
Grace Happer 64
Jessie M Happer 10
Grace Happer 8
Frances Happer 5
Christopher Happer 4
Isabella Happer 3
(plus several servants)

Gee

Gee Report 15 Nov 2015 18:34


U.K., City and County Directories, 1600s-1900s

Professional & Organisational Directories Berwick Upon Tweed

Name: Christopher Hopper <<Refreshment rooms. railway station
Residence: 1894 - Northumberland, England

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 16 Nov 2015 13:23

just in case this helps, this seems the most likely Lily as one of the administrators of the estate that Potty posted the probate of

Marriages Jun 1911
Coates Andrew L Newcastle T. 10b 68
Wood Lily Newcastle T. 10b 68

Name: Lily Coates
Birth Date: abt 1883
Date of Registration: Sep 1967
Age at Death: 84
Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne

Name: Andrew L Coates
Birth Date: abt 1882
Date of Registration: Dec 1964
Age at Death: 82
Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Nov 2015 17:20

Lily may be just a friend, of course, and not a relation of Isabella:


???
Lily Wood
in the 1911 England Census

Name: Lily Wood
Age in 1911: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Newcastle On Tyne, Northland
Civil Parish: All Saints
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address: 12 Copland Terrace Shieldfield Newcastle On Tyne
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Printer's Feeder
Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
Registration District Number: 558
Sub-registration district: All Saints
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Piece: 30643
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Wood 73
Mary Wood 72
Lily Wood 28 - printer's feeder
William McAlwane 22 - boarder


???
Lily Wood
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Lily Wood
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 3 Jun 1885
Baptism Date: 4 Jul 1885
Baptism Place: St John, Dukinfield, Cheshire, England
Father: Henry Wood
Mother: Mary Jane
FHL Film Number: 1655859
Reference ID: item 3 p 98

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Nov 2015 17:26

Lily Wood
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Lily Wood
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: Henry Wood
Mother: Mary Wood
Birth Place: Newc-on-Tyne
Civil Parish: All Saints
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: All Saints
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4786
Folio: 63
Page Number: 45
Household schedule number: 257
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Wood 63
Mary Wood 62
Emily J Wood 28
Lily Wood 18
Benjamin Plevin 25 - boarder
Herbet A Plevin 21 - boarder

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Nov 2015 17:31

Aha!
This could be the Carr link you mentioned, June.

Marriage of Lily's parents?? (Married 49 years in 1911)

Marriages Mar 1863 (>99%)
BRIDGE Mary Gateshead 10a 649
CARR Mary Gateshead 10a 649 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Johnson Christopher Gateshead 10a 649
WOOD Henry Gateshead 10a 649 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 16 Nov 2015 18:41

Just to confirm the pairing in the marriage above:

England, Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Henry Wood
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Marriage Date: 18 Jan 1863
Marriage Place: Gateshead,Durham,England
Spouse: Mary Carr, age 24

June

June Report 17 Nov 2015 18:37

Once again thank you all for the wonderful help you've all given me, I now have enough info to not only confirm that I have the correct Isabella Hopper but also establish the link between her and my father. I'm overwhelmed at the response I've had, thank you GR for providing this facility x