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AustinQ

AustinQ Report 26 Mar 2016 10:39

Terry- I don't remember seeing an obituary posted, but I have searched the BNA and don't see one.

Eringobragh- you certainly have more patience than me!

I just wanted to briefly recap on the information on the Dunn/ Dunne family to keep it straight in my head:

James Dunn born c1838 Granard, County Longford Ireland- son of John and Ann

James married Ann Quinn in 1858 Dundee

Son Michael born Sept 1859 Dundee

James enlists at Dundee 3rd March 1860 (age last birthday 23)

Son John born Oct 1861 Barrackpore, Bengal

Son James born Jan 1866 Meerut, Bengal

Daughter Mary Ann born Sept 1868 Cawnpore Bengal

Wife, Ann dies 1870

James appears with son James in Dundee 1881 census

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 26 Mar 2016 10:57

I wonder if son Michael stayed in India?

India, Select Marriages, 1792-1948
Name Michael Dunn
Gender Male
Marital Status Single
Age 25
Birth Date 1859
Marriage Date 26 Dec 1884
Marriage Place Agra, Bengal, India
FHL Film Number 510874
Household Members
Name Age
James Lynch
Elizabeth Lynch
Michael Dunn
James Dunn
---------------------------------------------

possible death?

British India Office Ecclesiastical Returns - Deaths & Burials Transcription
First name(s) Michael
Last name Dunn
Birth year 1861
Death date 31 Oct 1896
Death year 1896
Age 35
Burial date 31 Oct 1896
Place Lahore
Presidency Bengal
Archive Reference N-1-254
Page 221

Buried Catholic Cathedral ? (can't read)
Trade or Profession: Schoolmaster

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 26 Mar 2016 11:16

Ann's name looks like Catligant though that's a mighty strange name!

Just looking at the baptism Londonbelle posted compared with the one I posted...the year of birth is different (1866 v 1865). Looking at the image it must be 1866

Jude

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 26 Mar 2016 11:29

Thanks Jude- I was thinking it looked like Catagash!! I can't find anything for that either :)

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 26 Mar 2016 11:46

Her name appears to be on there twice

Firstly ? Ca?ligant

Then Ann ...

I am not convinced about the first "t" it is different to the one at the end...maybe an f?

Jude

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 26 Mar 2016 11:56

Wonder if it is Callaghan or variation of same.

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 26 Mar 2016 12:04

Wondered same myself . The first entry definitely begins Ca and ends igant

Jude

Terence

Terence Report 26 Mar 2016 13:03

To all researchers,my interest in the Dunne family is via my nieces husband who asked me to do research for him.He is a Callaghan and his mothers maiden name was Dunne.This is where I started to follow the Dunne line.You researchers have been so helpful and,at the moment,still are.Thanks again.
Terry L.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 27 Mar 2016 11:59

Going back to the 1881 census- just to refresh:

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
110, Blackness Road, Liff & Benvie, St Peter, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland

James Quinn Head Married Male 50 1831 Jute Weaver Ireland
Cathrine Quinn Wife Married Female 46 1835 H Keeper Ireland
James Quinn Son Unmarried Male 27 1854 Labourer Dundee, Forfarshire (Angus),
Cathrine Quinn Daughter Unmarried Female 17 1864 Jute Spiner Dundee, Forfarshire (Angus),
Jane Quinn Daughter Unmarried Female 13 1868 Scholar Dundee, Forfarshire (Angus),
May Quinn Daughter Unmarried Female 10 1871 Scholar Dundee, Forfarshire (Angus)
Janes Dunn Lodger Widower Male 40 1841 Warehousemn Ireland
James Dunn Lodger Unmarried Male 15 1866 Scholar - BENGA INDIA

We were under the impression that James Quin may have been a relative (sister perhaps) of James Dunne's wife, Ann (Quin)- this may still be the case but looking at the births of the children it looks as though Catherine was a Dunne- so possibly a sister of James? Yes confusing!!

Some of the children seem to be listed under 'Queen', but I think it's the correct people.

Name: Catherine Quinn
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 4 Feb 1864
Birth Place: Dundee,Angus,Scotland
Father: James Quinn
Mother: Catherine Dunn
FHL Film Number: 6035516

Name: Jane Queen
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 22 Nov 1867
Birth Place: Dundee,Angus,Scotland
Father: James Queen
Mother: Catherine Dunn
FHL Film Number: 6035516

Name: Mary Queen
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 22 May 1870
Birth Place: Dundee,Angus,Scotland
Father: James Queen
Mother: Catherine Dunn
FHL Film Number: 6035516
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

A little too early for the statutory register- so marriage may not provide details of parents- although if we can identify the correct death, this will tell us if Catherine is a sister to James (Gawd- I hope that makes sense?!)


Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910
Name: James Quin
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 19 Oct 1852
Marriage Place: Dundee,Angus,Scotland
Spouse: Catharine Dunn
FHL Film Number: 993404

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 27 Mar 2016 12:10

OK, found Catherine's death (1892)- after all that, not a sister to James as her parents were James Dunn and Catherine Reilly.

So we're back to James Quin being a possible sister to Ann Dunne (nee Quin)

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 28 Mar 2016 13:06

Terry can you provide some info.as to what docs.etc .your nephew by marriage has relating to his family and who he is decended from...? No info.re living relatives needs to be posted.

If James Dunne snr son of John was born as he stated (Attestation Papers) in Granard Co Longford then I am still trying to find his Baptism....I have searched virtually all the Baptisms and 1831 Census for the Granard area and the Dunne /Dunn surname is not one common to the Co Longford. The following is from Griffiths valuation (1834)

Dunne Michael. Abbeylara Granard.....there are 2 Michaels in Abbeylara Townland
Dunne John : Ballymahon. Forgney Parish Cloonmore
Dunne John : Moydow. Killashee Parish Cloonmore

There is also Owen/Patrick/and a few more Micheals' scattered around but looking at Granard and searching for a John Dunne.. the above is all I can find .....Cloonmore is not in the Granard Civil Parish


Terence

Terence Report 29 Mar 2016 16:10

Sorry for not replying to Eringobragh1916.Been trapped by minding grandchildren over the hols.What I know about the family of my nephew by marriage's family
starts with Willam Callaghanc.1810,his son Joseph c.1850 and his wife Ann Tierney c.1857.All the above born Ireland.From Joseph and Ann,a son James T Callaghan c.1893 and his wife Florence Cinnamond c.1895.They were born Stockton and Hartlepool area.A son George W. Callaghan ,c.1914 was Grandfather to my nieces husband.Hope that clarifies ,a little bit.
Regards,Terry L.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 29 Mar 2016 18:41

TerryL Thank you for that....

For ref :

James T Callaghan married Florence Cinnamond 1st quarter of 1912 Hartlepool

Is this Flo.with her family 1901 living Robinson St.Hartlepool

George Cinnamond Head M 37 Scotland
Jane Cinnamond Wife F 35 Middlesbro, Yorkshire
George Cinnamond Son M 12 W Hartlepool,
John Cinnamond Son M 11 W Hartlepool,
*** Florrie Cinnamond Daughter F 5 W Hartlepool,****
Minnie Cinnamond Daughter F 2 W Hartlepool,

EDIT...


Births Mar 1895 (>99%)

Cinnamond Florence Hartlepool 10a 136

Terence

Terence Report 29 Mar 2016 21:01

Thanks.Have that at the moment.
Terry L.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 29 Mar 2016 21:05

TerryL have just amended previous thread as age of Florrie 1901 meant she couldn't have married in 1912....

Census is mis-transcribed...should have checked !!!!


Births Mar 1895 (>99%)

Cinnamond Florence Hartlepool 10a 136

Terence

Terence Report 30 Mar 2016 11:55

Thanks again. Terry L.

Terence

Terence Report 30 Mar 2016 13:20

I wondered if it was possible to find any info on a Philip family,who are connected to the Dunne family.The info I have,so far,is
Mabel Fleming G.Dunne,c.1907, married a James G.Philip,c.1912 in Walsingham,Norfolk,in1934 and later lived in Hartlepool.James G.father was also James G, and I think,possibly,born Scotland,but not certain.Not a lot to go on,but wondered if you could help in any way?.
Terry L.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 30 Mar 2016 15:05

Birth entry on Scotland's people- do you have it?

1912 PHILIP JAMES GRAY M MONIFIETH WEST /ANGUS 310/02 0126

DOB 1st August 1912
Born Brook Street
Mother was Isabella Wallarer Morris
Father was James Gray Philip (Master Pastry Baker)

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 30 Mar 2016 15:11

James snr 1891:

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
St Vincent Place, Monifieth, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland

Margaret Philip Head Unmarried Female 19 1872 Dressmaker Brechin, Forfarshire (Angus),
Isabella Philip Sister Unmarried Female 17 1874 Waitress Brechin, Forfarshire (Angus),
James G Philip Brother Unmarried Male 16 1875 Baker App Brechin, Forfarshire (Angus),
Mary C Philip Sister Unmarried Female 14 1877 Dressmaker App Monifieth, Forfarshire (Angus),

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 30 Mar 2016 15:13

James Gray and Isabella Morris married 1900. Marriage cert available on Scotlandspeople