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The marriage was as Joonie said in 1958 Ipswich, I'll send the ref in a message as normally wouldn't post the marriage of someone who might still be living. Then you can order it from the GRO.

Thanks Rose,
I thought I had found the correct Shirley, but as you will probably well know,it does not pay to get too excited,I will send off for the marriage certificate soon, Joonie advised it ages ago, I should have done it then but got preoccupied with other stuff.

joonie et al,
I have just sent off for the marriage cert for my mum and dad, so with a bit of luck it may give us a bit more relevant info, cheers and thanks to you all (so far) :-)

There was this Shirley Towers mum nee Cullan born Nantwich Cheshire J/F/M 1937 V 8a P 305 and this death in South Cheshire Shirley Stewart born 30/11/1936 died Dec 1999 Reg number A4b

Lilian Cullen born 1910 married 1933 to Joseph William Towers born 1899.
Could someone please check 1939 register to see the birthdate for Shirley.
Sisters I think could be Mary 1933
Edith 1939, Barbara 1945.

I'm not sure if you know for deffinate where and when your Shirley was born,so I though I would post this just in case.

Maryb.

Mary this is that family in 1939

Towers Household (6 People)
14 Renshaw Street , Northwich U.D., Cheshire, England

Joseph W Towers 30 Jul 1899 General Labourer
Lilian Towers 10 Apr 1910 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Mary Lightfoot (Towers) 31 Jul 1933 At School
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Shirley Stewart (Tores) 30 Nov 1936 Under School Age
Edith Knight (Tores) 17 Feb 1939 Under School Age

That's looking like the correct Shirley don't you think?

Cheers Rambling Rose.

Maryb.

Her sisters all seem to have married in the general area of Cheshire so no help as to why Shirley would have been in Ipswich, but it's certainly a possible as I can't see another Towers/Stewart marriage.

Mary, I've PMd Roy David with the info on the post, along with a possible probate record. There are a couple of children I think to the sisters' marriages so that might be worth looking into further.

Cheers RR

Fingers crossed,there was anther sister 1945 and married 1962 with Three children I think.

Fingers crossed for a good result.

Maryb.

Wow, lots of info,
Mary, I have never had any info on my mum except her name on my birth certificate,I was always under the impression that she died when I was a baby so as I have said before nothing would surprise me.
My dad was an Ipswich man, but he often worked away as a welder so maybe he worked up in cheshire area and met my mum.
When I get the marriage cert I will inform on here and see where it takes us.
Please forgive me for keep thanking you all, but it means the world to me so,,,,,THANKS :-)

hello again all,
I have just returned from my hols and the marriage cert was waiting for me, so what is my next move folks?

well, what does the marriage cert tell you, and us? ...............

are our theories true?

Please post the names on there ....... bride, groom, occupations, addresses, names of fathers and their occupations, and the names of witnesses.

Sylvia, Roy has PMd me with the info that father on the marriage cert is "Joseph William Towers,he was a builders labourer." So that would seem to confirm this 1939 reg entry I posted earlier.

Towers Household (6 People)
14 Renshaw Street , Northwich U.D., Cheshire, England

Joseph W Towers 30 Jul 1899 General Labourer
Lilian Towers 10 Apr 1910 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Mary Lightfoot (Towers) 31 Jul 1933 At School
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Shirley Stewart (Tores) 30 Nov 1936 Under School Age
Edith Knight (Tores) 17 Feb 1939 Under School Age

When I came back to the thread to see new posts, I looked at the first post and thought, hold on, another case where we took the info (Shirley's place of birth Mansfield) as gospel but it was really just a guess based on what is at freebmd, so it was another big circle? all that effort to search for a red herring ....... starting back in the previous thread where the advice in January was to get the marriage certificate (which is when I already sent the details that Rose sent again this month) ....... aaiiee

Roy you really had no reason to believe your Shirley was born in Mansfield? except for it being in the county where you were born I guess ...

anyway it looks like this is the right track and the right Shirley now, sadly deceased.

the 1939 record really does say 'Towers' in the image, not 'Tores', of course.

sisters unfortunately deceased as well

Name: Edith Knight
Birth Date: 17 Feb 1939
Date of Registration: Nov 2005
Age at Death: 66
Registration district: Manchester
Inferred County: Lancashire

Name: Mary Lightfoot
Birth Date: 31 Jul 1933
Date of Registration: Jan 1998
Age at Death: 64
Registration district: South Cheshire
Inferred County: Cheshire

btw Rose we know the Ipswich marriage is correct because Roy knew both his parents' names from his birth cert

the youngest sister is Barbara, no middle name ... Rose did you have an idea as to which marriage it is? 1962 if she was very young? (birth soon after)

that couple is on the electoral roll but only to 2013

and there is no listing at BT on line (the D in Northwich is not the right person)

Roy both Edith and Mary had children, your cousins, and it should be possible to find at least one if you want to be in touch with Shirley's family

and Roy I would get Shirley's death certificate, since she and your dad separated soon after your birth it is possible that she partnered again and even had other children, and the death certificate might name a family member

Name: Shirley Stewart
Birth Date: 30 Nov 1936
Date of Registration: Dec 1999
Age at Death: 63
Registration district: South Cheshire
Inferred County: Cheshire
Register Number: A4B
District and Subdistrict: 3411A
Entry Number: 30

(Mary you put this above on this page as has been mentioned before it is a lot easier for everyone to see the info if it is reproduced in the index record form from one site or another, although yes preferably not whatever site it is whose format comes out a monitor-length long if not edited)

I took on board the last time I got in trouble for not posting the index record and as I said I get info from Ancestry which won't let me copy and paste.
I do know how to copy and paste.

When I find info that others haven't surely it is better to post said info any way that I possibly can.

Maryb.

Had to go off last night, but meanwhile awaiting a reply from Roy, just to recap I had previously sent a possible probate record for Shirley, as per the death posted by Mary.

Found an address for one of the cousins ( Lightfoot side) up to 2013 before going off last night so thought we should see if Roy wants to go down that route before checking further?

HI all
First can I just say that I am not great with tech so some of this is hard for me to follow sometimes,I got my self so excited when I thought you had found the details of my mother, this was my fault, getting too far ahead of myself after the success of finding my siblings earlier on this year,so apologies to you all for past and no doubt future mistakes.
Elizabeth, I have just rang both numbers you kindly found for me but up to now no reply,but I will keep trying.
I would be interested in finding any blood relatives on my mothers side,once I talk to a cousin they may be able to head me in the direction of siblings.
3rd april1958 R D Stewart married Shirley towers. 31 yrs and 21 yrs.
dad living Allan road Ipswich
mum living Renshaw st Northwich
Witnesses,,F L Davies (i think my grandmother)
G I Fuller,,(unknown to me)
dads father,,,Archibald Douglas Stewart,,R.A.F (he died young)
mums father,,,Joseph William Towers,,builders labourer.
Thats about all the details from my mum and dads marraige cert.
Thanks to one and all of you for the help

Hello again all,
Just to say thanks to you all again I have now spoken to my cousin and two of my aunts who were able to fill in lots of details for me, your skills determination and patients just amaze me.
I cant put into words how much this will change my life, huge thanks to every one of you!!!!!

That's great Roy.

All the best
Maryb.