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Ok I have one last piece in my family tree to solve and that's Mary Frances Fleming mother......who can solve the final piece :-)

Marriages Jun 1892 (>99%)
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Melia Rose Ann Stockton 10a 126
Nelson Henry Stockton 10a 126

(above Witnesses are at 92, Swainby Road, Stockton 1939)

(Henry 20/4/67 Rivetter Shipyard. Rose A 18/5/69)

Chris :)

Rose Ann Nelson? A sibling perhaps?

No, Rose Ann was Maiden Name Melia, on 1901 Middlesbrough with Henry, with them below couple...


Marriages Jun 1890 (>99%)
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Boyd James Stockton 10a 169
MELIA Bridget Stockton 10a 169


Births Dec 1868 (>99%)
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Maliery Rose Ann Stockton 10a 109


(Sister on 1871)

Births Jun 1866 (>99%)
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Malier Catharine Stockton 10a 119


(although not matching 1939, did wonder about above Birth, says Stockton for her, 1871 Stockton (with Bridget, Father, Andrew, both born Ireland, as Mealia)


It would be Henry who related...

Deaths Mar 1951 (>99%)
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NELSON Rose A 82 Durham S. E 1a 869


Births Jun 1867 (>99%)
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Nelson Henry Jones Stockton 10a 99

(perhaps)

It's been suggested that Mary Frances Fleming daughter of James Fleming was born in Cork, Southern Ireland but when I visited the GRONI web site she does not appear to exist. There is no birth record for her at all.

How very strange as I can definitely confirm her death and marriage and the death certificate states her birthday as 17th August 1894...

I'll try another approach. Perhaps if I can locate her father's marriage license on GRONI that will confirm the mother!

Hiya in answer to your question if this helps James Fleming is described as a Rigger at Shipyard (deceased) on Mary Frances Fleming's marriage license to Richard Henry Nelson. I'm starting to conclude the Irish line may be incorrect as GRONI shows nothing for her at all.

Ireland Births 1864-1958 Transcription

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First name(s) Mary Frances
Last name Fleming
Registration year 1893
Registered quarter/year Oct - Dec 1893
Registration district Limerick
Volume 5
Page 304
Mother's last name (original) -
County Clare, Limerick
Country Ireland
Record set Irish Births 1864-1958
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Ireland

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Unless we're staring at different web sites the official web site i'm looking at draws a complete blank???

https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk

try here its a subscription site

don't know if its your mary frances fleming


http://limerick.rootsireland.ie/search.php

also this mary francis fleming

from find my past


Ireland Births 1864-1958 Transcription

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First name(s) Mary Francis
Last name Fleming
Registration year 1893
Registered quarter/year Oct - Dec 1893
Registration district Middleton
Volume 4
Page 579
Mother's last name (original) -
County Cork
Country Ireland
Record set Irish Births 1864-1958
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Ireland

This looks the closest to being right but the dates are still off-


Name: Mary Frances Fleming Date of Birth:
Date of Baptism: 20-Aug-1893
Address: Parish/District: AGHADA
Gender: Female County Co. Cork
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Father: James Fleming Mother: Mary Lynch
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: George Not Legible Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2: Jane Lynch
Notes:
PRIEST: J W
MARRIED DANIEL SOMITH 12TH JULY 1914. CORAM REV. E S. HILL
SAINT MARYS AT PARISH CHURCH NEWPORT ENGLAND.
MARRIED HENRY 30TH MAY 1934. CORAM RD. TAYLETON.
WITNESSES EDWARD HODGSON & ELLEN FEELEY ST MARYIS CHURCH STOCKTAND N
FORD.

This one has the wrong dad-

Name: Mary Frances Fleming Date of Birth: 04-Nov-1893
Registration Date: 04-Dec-1893
Address: 14 Fitzgerald Cottages Parish/District: LIMERICK NO. 4
Gender: Female County Co. Limerick
Denomination: Civil Record
Father: William Fleming Mother: Harriett Stait
Occupation: Sergeant Limk City Art
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Harriet Fleming Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:

So basically ROOTSIRELAND.ie found this using my broad search-

Baptismal/Birth Records for Ireland
2 matches for the search criteria: Fleming (plus variants) Mary Frances 1889-1899

but of the two only one shows the correct father and correct name....however the birth date doesn't quite tally......however my money is on this lady-


Name: Mary Frances Fleming Date of Birth:
Date of Baptism: 20-Aug-1893
Address: Parish/District: AGHADA
Gender: Female County Co. Cork
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Father: James Fleming Mother: Mary Lynch
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: George Not Legible Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2: Jane Lynch

I'm rather surprised these results did not come up here- https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk but it looks like the answer to my original question is now solved.

The mother of Mary Francis Fleming is Mary Lynch of Ireland.

That was the final piece of my puzzle in my search for the 16 great great grandparents in my family lineage.

Other results were-

IFHF
Church Baptism Record
Name: Mary Frances Fleming Date of Birth: 16-Feb-1884
Date of Baptism: 17-Feb-1884
Address: Ferrybank Parish/District: SLIEVERUE
Gender: Female County Co. Kilkenny
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Father: Nicholas Fleming Mother: Mary Fagan
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: John Fleming Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2: Mary Fleming



IFHF
Civil Birth Record
Name: Mary Frances Fleming Date of Birth: 27-Feb-1884
Registration Date:
Address: Ferrybank Parish/District: Waterford
Gender: Female County Co. Waterford
Denomination: Civil Parish / District
Father: Nicholas Fleming Mother: Mary Fagan
Occupation: Gardener
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:
Notes:
*HER MARK PRESENT AT BIRTH

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:
Place of birth: Ferrybank.
Informant: Fagan Mary*.
Informant address: Ferrybank.
Registration Date: 3 MAR 1884.
Registrar: Cutler P..
Register: WAT URB 1 BTH BK 31.
Union: Waterford.


Both were ruled out and that concluded the searches ROOTSIRELAND.ie

????


Ireland Marriages 1845-1958 Transcription

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First name(s) James
Last name Fleming
Registration year 1892
Registered Quarter/Year Apr - Jun 1892
Registration district Middleton
Volume 4
Page 328
MarriageFinder™ James Fleming married one of these people
Mary Lynch, Laurence Carroll, Minnie Lynch, Ellen Dorgan, Johanna Carey
County -
Country Ireland
Record set Irish Marriages 1845-1958
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
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Laird...GRONI is the General Records Office of Northern Ireland so no you wouldn't find Mary Frances Fleming ??? born in the County Cork in their records.


Re safc posting 5Aug.01.55

Who is the Richard H Nelson b 1920 Gen.lab.....or is it a misprint ?

Figured as I only have a 24 hour subscription better make the most of it. I got this also for Mary Frances Fleming's parents-

IFHF
Church Marriage Record
Date of Marriage: 21-Feb-1891
Parish / District: AGHADA County: Co. Cork
Husband Wife
Name: James Fleming Mary Lynch
Address:
Denomination: Roman Catholic Roman Catholic
Occupation:
Age:
Status: Bachelor (Previously unmarried) Spinster (Previously unmarried)
Husband's Father Wife's Father
Name: Fleming Lynch
Address:
Denomination:
Occupation:
Husband's Mother Wife's Mother
Name:
Address:
Denomination:
Occupation:
Witness 1 Witness 2
Name: Thomas Hallaran Margaret Fleming
Address:
Notes:
PRIEST: J R

A broad search for births for James Fleming in the Cork area revealed 10 called James Fleming from 1861-81. This is unlikely to reveal much as not enough information was as seen above is available on his marriage license.

Laird..Why are you looking for MF and James particularly in the Co.Cork.?