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a fireman is the man who stokes the fire on steam engines

Thank you Ivy. On Alice's marriage she puts him as engine driver but on some census he is a fireman so not really sure.
This one is a bit of an off shoot really as its ALice's husband that is my connection so I just got a little sidetracked with this one.
Thanks for the info though.
Gloria

Does this mean that Alfred would be in the Royal Navy? Service records? I seem to remember that Heather Posi has RN ancestors (but could be wrong)

Hi Gloria,

- a bit on the Dreadnought from Wikipedia:

The sixth HMS Dreadnought of the Royal Navy was a revolutionary battleship which entered service in 1906. So advanced was Dreadnought that she gave her name not just to a class but to an entire generation of battleships, the dreadnoughts, whilst the ships she made obsolete became known as "pre-dreadnoughts".

- this one may be Alfred's:

HMS Dreadnought, a battleship launched in 1875 and hulked in 1903, then sold in 1908

Alice put her fathers occupation as an engine driver whedn she married so presumably a fire engine driver.
clear as mud.lol

thank you. I guess that must be hms dreadnought

No wonder I couldnt find them on 1881
Thank you all.
Gloria

Name: Alfred Sedge
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Gender: Male
Where born: Gravesend, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Vessels
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address: "Dreadnought"
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Fireman

Registration district: Lewes
Sub-registration district: Newhaven
ED, institution, or vessel: Dreadnaught

- and the family are mistranscribed as Sage in 1881:

Name: Mary A. Sage
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Wife (Head) (Head)
Gender: Female
Where born: Milton, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Milton in Gravesend
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address: 1 Bentley St

Occupation: Wife Of Fireman

Registration district: Gravesend
Sub-registration district: Gravesend
ED, institution, or vessel: 1

Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Sage 11
Annie Sage 3
Arthur Sage 6
Frederick Sage 1
Mary A. Sage 35

with Alfred at sea

The one that died in 1904 was only 33 so must have been her brother, not her father.

On the 1891 there is an Alfred aged 21 with the Gravesend family.

Christine

The one with her widowed mother in 1891 is here in 1901:

Name: Maud Gedge
[Maud Sedge]
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Sister
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Female
Where born: Gravesend, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Milton
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Gravesend
Sub-registration district: Gravesend
ED, institution, or vessel: 6

Household schedule number: 187
Household Members:
Name Age
Annie Davis 23
William Davis 28
William Davis 1
Maud Gedge 18
Mary A Sedge 53

thank you.
The one living in Milton will be mine. But looks like her father has died.
Bit strange. She married in 1907 and her father died 1904. Unless there are 2 Alfred John Sedge as well as 2 Alice Maud's...lol

Thank you for your help

In 1901 we only have Alice E and the Alice born in Stockbury:-


Alice E Sedge George,
Charlotte abt 1883 Gravesend, Kent, England Daughter Milton, Kent


Alice M Sedge abt 1882 Stockbury, Kent, England Servant Battersea, London



neither seem to fit your requirement!


sylvia

There are two on the 1891 Census .... and Alice M born in Gravesend and living in Milton, and an Alice Maude born in Stockbury. Plus an Alice E born in Gravesend

Number 1:-

Name: Alice M Sedge
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Female
Where born: Gravesend, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Milton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter and St Paul
Town: Gravesend
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Gravesend
Sub-registration district: Gravesend
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Sedge 21
Alice M Sedge 8
Annie Sedge 13
Frederick Sedge 11
Mary A Sedge 45 Widow

Address:- 15 Propsect Place, Milton, Gravesend

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Number 2

Name: Alice Maude Sedge
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Frances
Gender: Female
Where born: Stockbury, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Stockbury
Ecclesiastical parish: Stockbury
Town: Stockbury
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Hollingbourn
Sub-registration district: Hollingbourn
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Albert Sedge 11
Alice Maude Sedge 6
Auther John Sedge 8
Frances Sedge 43
George Sedge 48
George Sedge 13
Mary Ann Sedge

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Number 3 (just for interest's sake


Name: Alice E Sedge
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Charlotte
Gender: Female
Where born: Gravesend, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Milton
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Gravesend
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

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sylvia

Alice Maud SEDGE b 1882 Milton/Gravesend Kent

There appears to have been 2 babies given the same name in the same year. One born gravesend one born Milton, which is next to gravesend.
The one I am after has a father Alfred JOhn SEDGE, but he appears to have a marriage in sep 1891 so maybe he has a different wife in 1891 and 1901.
Thank you
Gloria