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help please

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cane

cane Report 17 Oct 2009 16:17


please can some-one help me with this "Josia crook" on 1901 census. he is driving me mad..he was born 1849ish ,in manchester,lancashire,,i am told his name is mispelt as "Josia"but i am going round the bend with searching him out....or i am just loosing the plot totally...lol

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 17 Oct 2009 16:21

Maybe??

Births Dec 1847 (>99%)
CROOK Josiah Stockport 19 247

Jan

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Oct 2009 16:22

Where was he in 1891? Wife or children?

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 17 Oct 2009 16:24

Just for reference: Wrong YOB!!

1901 England Census

Name: Josia Crook
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mabel
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Manchester St John
Town: Manchester

Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Central

Name Age
Josia Crook 26
Mabel Crook 22
Hilda Crook 3
Frederick Crook 19

Jan

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Oct 2009 16:26

1881 matches year of birth

Name: Josiah Crook
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Mchr, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Gorton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 19 Sussex St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Blacksmith

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Ardwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 40
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Josiah Crook 30
Mary Crook 29
Josiah Crook 8
Mary E. Crook 7
William H. Crook 3
Frederick Crook 1
Caroline Bradley 11





Well found Janet in 1901

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 17 Oct 2009 16:27

Why thanks! Getting a bit confused with these 2 Josiah's.

I imagine this is him:

Births Mar 1873 (>99%)
Crook Josiah Manchester 8d 247

Jan

cane

cane Report 17 Oct 2009 16:29

thats just it he dissapears and leaves his wife and family ,and his brother richard takes over as head,
hi angela...yes thats his son who married mabel mkintosh...
janet...yes that's his son...josiah jnr

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Oct 2009 16:31

1891 just for info

Name: Josiah Crook
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Beswick
Ecclesiastical parish: Beswick St Mary
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Prestwich
Sub-registration district: Newton
ED, institution, or vessel: 46
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Crook 38 - shown as married
Josiah Crook 17
Mary E Crook 16
William H Crook 12
Frederick Crook 10
Richard A Crook 8
Florence Crook 7
Edith E Crook 5
Emily Crook 0
William Crook 75
Richard Crook 33



Have you found him in 1891 or found a death

cane

cane Report 17 Oct 2009 16:34

"oh my word Glitter you found him thank-you so much..can you help with the other censuses please

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Oct 2009 16:37

Possible marriage

Marriages Sep 1872 (>99%)
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CROOK Josiah Manchester 8d 236
Hulme Mary Manchester 8d 236
Mainwaring Elizabeth Manchester 8d 236
Ogden John Manchester 8d 236

cane

cane Report 17 Oct 2009 16:37

that same richard age 33, on 1891 is acting as head of the family in 1901,and in 1911 richard and mary state they have been married 22yrs,

Gee

Gee Report 17 Oct 2009 16:42

A possible mis-transcribed death?

Deaths Dec 1931 (>99%)
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Creek Josiah 85 Lancaster 8e 884


Ginny
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cane

cane Report 17 Oct 2009 16:45

a possibility Ginny...will keep it in mind

Bren from Oldham

Bren from Oldham Report 17 Oct 2009 16:48

Josiah Crook married Mary Hulme on the 14th July 1872 at Manchester Cathedral

This was most likely to one of the days when they did mass marriages

A lot of couples found that it was cheaper to be married there instead of paying for 2 sets of banns to be published at their respective parish churches

cane

cane Report 17 Oct 2009 16:50

i also cannt find that marriage for richard &mary in 1889.as they did say they had been marreid 22yrs on 1911 census.....why would they say this they were actually not married and if josiah (1850) was still around

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 17 Oct 2009 17:05

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1872
CROOK Josiah
HULME Mary
Manchester Cathedral (formerly Manchester Collegiate Church)

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Oct 2009 17:08

My great grandparents lied on the 1911 census as they actually married in 1914 from the same address as shown on 1911 census

cane

cane Report 17 Oct 2009 18:42

"N"

cane

cane Report 18 Oct 2009 13:42

Ha Ha....would you beleive it there actually is birth details for a josiah CREEK.........."E"