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Hi, family tradition has always told of the early death of Harry Bathe (born Islington, 1872) but glancing through Free BMD I've just located a Harry Bathe of the correct age and living in a likely area of London dying in 1934 aged 62 (in West Ham) so I would love to see if anyone can find him on any census after 1881 which is the last census we have. We have all the next censuses for the Bathes but no sign of Harry.

1881 census as follows:
All surname Bathe unless othrewise stated, living in Harrogate Road, Hackney , London:

Alfred 40 Cabinet Maker Born Bristol
Alice 32
Harry 10
Rosa 7
Maud 2
and a lodger Eliza Stinton 54

I also have a possible marriage for him from Free BMD:

Marriages Sep 1893 (>99%)
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Bathe Harry Alfred Hackney 1b 875
Buckmaster Elizabeth Ann Hackney 1b 875
Foord Edmund Arthur Hackney 1b 875
Mattocks Lucy Ann O Hackney 1b 875

I'm sure I will have to purchase certs to see if he is 'my' Harry but any help appreciated in the meantime!

Helen

Name: Harry Alfred Bathe
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Spouse Name: Lucy Ann Ody Mattocks
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 6 Aug 1893
Parish: Saint John At Hackney
County: Middlesex
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Alfred Bathe
Spouse Father Name: Joseph Mattocks - deceased


Harry - boot finisher
Alfred - cabinet maker
28 Redwald Rd, Clapton

Witness - Alfred Bathe and Emily Mary Nelson Mattocks - not sure about that third name of Emily

Fantastic, we know which one he married then! Thank you.

Name: Harry Alfred Bathe
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 17 Mar 1871
Father's Name: Alfred Bathe >>>>>Cabinet maker, 32 Winford rd
Mother's Name: Maria Bathe
Parish: Holy Trinity, Marylebone Road
Borough: Westminster
County: Middlesex

Found one possible child

Name: May Lucy Bathe
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 17 Jun 1894
Father's Name: Harry Alfred Bathe
Mother's Name: Lucy Ann Bathe
Parish: Saint John At Hackney
Borough: Hackney
County: Middlesex

Leonard Alfred Bathe Baptism 19 Jul 1896 Harry Alfred Bathe,
Lucy Bathe Saint John At Hackney Hackney


Olive Emily Bathe Baptism 28 Jan 1900 Harry Alfred Bathe,
Lucy Bathe Saint John At Hackney Hackney


May Lucy Bathe Baptism 17 Jun 1894 Harry Alfred Bathe,
Lucy Ann Bathe Saint John At Hackney Hackney


Doris Rosa Bathe Baptism 21 Jul 1901 Harry Alfred Bathe,
Lucy Ann Bathe Saint John At Hackney Hackney


Daisy Beatrice Alice Bathe Baptism 12 Jul 1903 Harry Alfred Bathe,
Lucy Ann Bathe Saint John At Hackney Hackney

Fantastic, Maria is Alice's middle name so that makes sense, certainly him. Wonder why he wasn't on the 1891 census living at home then? Maybe apprenticed out for the shoemaking...?

1901 England Census
Name: Harry A Bathe
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Lucy A O
Gender: Male
Where born: Kentish Town, London, England

Civil parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillip
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: South-West Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 74
Household Members: Name Age
Harry A Bathe 29
Lucy A O Bathe 29
May L Bathe 6
Leonard A Bathe 4




Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 225; Folio: 77; Page: 10.

poss 1891

Name: Harry Bathe
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Alfred
Mother's Name: Alice
Gender: Male
Where born: Islington

Civil parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: All Souls
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>28 Redwald Rd

Occupation:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Finisher boot

Condition as to marriage:>>>>>>>Single

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Bathe 50 >>>>>>>>>>>>>Cabinet maker, born Bristol
Alice Bathe 42
Harry Bathe 19
Rosa Bathe 17
Maud Bathe 12
Friederick Bathe 10
Martha Bathe 8
George Bathe 6
Rade Bathe 3
Jessie Bathe 1




Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 199; Folio 118; Page 78; GSU roll: 6095309.

And I see he's certainly been busy making his own babies, all the girls have his sister's names as their middlenames, how sweet!

Deaths Jun 1901 (>99%)
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Bathe Olive Emily 1 Hackney 1b 280

Thank you for that Census, yes that's him, looks like I've been mis-informed about the contents of that one as I was told he wasn't on any others! Thank you all so much!

And thank you for the 1901 census as well! Is he still a shoemaker?

Name: Harry Bathe
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Alfred
Mother's Name: Alise
Gender: Male
Where born: Islington, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St John Hackney
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 27 Harrogate Rd
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: South Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Bathe 40 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cabinet Maker, born Bristol, Gloucestershire
Alise Bathe 32
Harry Bathe 10
Rosa Bathe 7
Maud Bathe 2
Eliz.J. Stinton 54 >>>>>>>>>>>>>Lodger




Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 316; Folio: 52; Page: 28; GSU roll: 1341068.

he's a Boot Finisher on the 1901 census

Thanks choccy, and thank you very much to everyone else who has helped, and so quickly too!!! Have to go and get dinner going now but will pop back later.

Kind regards

Helen

1911 census transcription details for: 21 Camden Road Walthamstow

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN9687 RG78PN514A RD188 SD10 ED13 SN403


Reg. District: West Ham Sub District: Walthamstow
Parish: Walthamstow Enum. District: 13
Address: 21 Camden Road Walthamstow
County: Essex


BATHE, Harry Head Married M 39 1872 Grocer Dealer Camden Town London N W
BATHE, Lucy Wife Married
15 years (image says 18) F 39 1872 Bethnal Green London
BATHE, May Daughter Single F 17 1894 Blouse Maker Hackney London
BATHE, Leonard Son Single M 15 1896 House Decorator Hackney London
BATHE, Doris Daughter F 10 1901 Hackney London
BATHE, Daisy Daughter F 8 1903 Homerton London
They've had 5 children,1 has died.

He signs as Harry A Bathe.

Maureen