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JAMES McCALL, born LANARKSHIRE, SCOTLAND, 1855

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Carole

Carole Report 23 Jan 2010 17:35

Hi, wondering if anyone could please do lookup in the Scotland census for my James McCall, b 1855 in Lanarkshire, I believe. No info on his father but his mother was Helen .... he married Catherine (could be with a "K") (nee Stirling) date unsure, they had one child, Agnes, b c1878 in Lanarkshire. Any info at all would be greatly appreciated, ie. birth/marriage/addresses/dates!

Thank you in advance, Carole in Canada

FRANK06

FRANK06 Report 23 Jan 2010 21:41

Hi Carole,

No birth 1855-56 for James McCall, Scotlands People, Statutory Registers.
No birth 1854-55 for James McCall, Scotlands People, Old Parish Registers

No marriage 1870-1880 for James McCall & Katherine Stirling.
No marriage 1870-1880 for James McCall & Catherine Stirling.
No marriage 1870-1880 for James McCall & ............ Stirling

One marriage 1873 Tradeston, Glasgow for a James McCall & Catherine Diamond which probably ties in with this birth...................
1877 MCCALL AGNES F TRADESTON GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/13 0616

Only other Lanarkshire birth at this time..........................
1878 MCCALL AGNES MCNEE F MILTON GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/08 0427
Milton is in the north of Glasgow................Cambuslang is in the south of Glasgow.

Sorry, it's not really a lot of help.

Carole

Carole Report 12 Feb 2010 03:48

Hi Frank,

Sorry, think I replied to your message by clicking on your name, instead of clicking on "reply" (the page is new from the last time I used it!!). Thought I'd reply this way, you were wondering what my initial request was.....

I completely got the wrong surname (don't ask.... bit embarrassing!), for Catherine (have seen it spelled with a K in censuses too) is DIAMOND. I received info from you for a marriage, 1873 Tradeston, Glasgow for James McCall & Catherine Diamond - I am almost certain this is it!! Many thanks. Also, my Agnes McCall was born in 1877 (I always thought it was 1878) in Glasgow. So it all fits!!

I was wondering if you know how to go about ordering a marriage certificate for James and Catherine(K)?? Also, do you know if there are proper birth certificates to be ordered too (I have a copy of Agnes' birth cert. but not very legible, think I got it on Scotlands People and had to pay credits, cost me a fortune searching...

Also, was wondering if there are ANY more records AT ALL on Scottish Censuses for James and/or Catherine and their families... really want to find more Scottish relatives! One other thing.... have you any way of searching Irish records, don't know where to start to trace Helen McCall (one thing I remember is my mom telling me that her gran (Agnes above) always said her gran was from Ballymena - possible?? Helen shows on the 1881 Scotland Census as being 60 years old (so born c1821, Ireland).

Incidentally, James, Catherine and Agnes show on the 1891 Census in England where they lived the rest of their lives.
Thanks again Frank!

Regards,

Carole in Canada

Carole

Carole Report 12 Feb 2010 04:09

Hi Jenny,

Yes, this is my James and Catherine! Thank you, have a copy of that record. Got additional info from Frank - looks like I found James and Catherine's marriage (I somehow got my "wires crossed", bit embarrassing... I seemed to remember that Catherine's maiden name was Silver.... it was DIAMOND, haha). Anyway, can now order a marriage cert., if I find out how!

Many thanks,

Carole in Canada

FRANK06

FRANK06 Report 12 Feb 2010 08:23

Hi Carole,

I have your marriage details but no time just now.
Send it later tonight if you want.

Not good on Ireland ............sorry.

alviegal

alviegal Report 12 Feb 2010 11:01

Birth for Katherine?



CATHERINE DIAMOND Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
30 OCT 1855 Hutchesontown, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: JAMES DIAMOND Family
Mother: ANNIE COSTULO


Siblings. Mother is Annie Costello.



1. THOMAS DIAMOND - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 14 JAN 1867 Hutchesontown, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
2. MARY JANE DIAMOND - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 01 MAR 1859 Hutchesontown, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
3. GEORGE DIAMOND - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 02 AUG 1861 Hutchesontown, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
4. MARTHA DIAMOND - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 25 MAR 1873 Hutchesontown, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
5. CATHERINE DIAMOND - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 30 OCT 1855 Hutchesontown, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
6. ANNABELLA DIAMOND - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 13 JUL 1870 Hutchesontown, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
7. DANIEL DIAMOND - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 23 OCT 1856 Hutchesontown, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
8. WILLIAM DIAMOND - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 12 JAN 1864 Hutchesontown, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland


No sign of her so possibly not this family. Do you know her parents names yet?


1861 Scotland Census


Name: Danl Diamond
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Jas
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasg, Lanarksh
Registration Number: 644/10
Registration district: Hutchesontown
Civil parish: Glasgow Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 4 Shamrock St
ED: 24
Household schedule number: 36
Line: 3
Roll: CSSCT1861_112
Household Members:
Name Age
Jas Diamond 36
Ann Diamond 30
Joh Diamond 14
Patrick Diamond 12
Anne Diamond 10
Jas Diamond 7
Danl Diamond 5
Mary Diamond 2

alviegal

alviegal Report 12 Feb 2010 11:24

This one is in the right area but there are actually a few Catherines born around the same time.


1871 Scotland Census
about Catherine Diamond
Name: Catherine Diamond
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relationship: Daughter
Mother's Name: Agnes
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/9
Registration district: Tradeston
Civil parish: Glasgow Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 47 Dale Street (2 Back Land)
Occupation: Portery Keeper
ED: 39
Household schedule number: 46
Line: 23
Roll: CSSCT1871_139
Household Members:
Name Age
Agnes Diamond 36
Catherine Diamond 16
John Diamond 14



1861 Scotland Census
about Catherine Diamond
Name: Catherine Diamond
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: Manus
Mother's Name: Agnes
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanark
Registration Number: 644/10
Registration district: Hutchesontown
Civil parish: Glasgow Gorbals
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 17 Portugal St
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 99
Household schedule number: 30
Line: 13
Roll: CSSCT1861_113
Household Members:
Name Age
Manus Diamond 48 b Ireland, Hammerman
Agnes Diamond 44 b Kingarth, Buteshire
Sarah Diamond 16
Mary Ann Diamond 13
Agnes Diamond 8
Eliza Diamond 11
Catherine Diamond 6
John Diamond 3
Peter Diamond 8 Mo


Parents



PETER DIAMOND Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
15 JUL 1860 Hutchesontown, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: MANUS DIAMOND Family
Mother: AGNES MCPHERSON

alviegal

alviegal Report 12 Feb 2010 11:40

Possible for James?


1871 Scotland Census

Name: Helen McColl
Age: 43
Estimated birth year: abt 1828
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 644/10
Registration district: Hutchesontown
Civil parish: Glasgow Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 26 Thistle St
Occupation: Farm Servant
ED: 75
Household schedule number: 83
Line: 19
Roll: CSSCT1871_142
Household Members:
Name Age
Helen McColl 43
Mary McColl 27
James McColl 17




1861 Scotland Census
about James McCall
Name: James McCall
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Frances
Mother's Name: Elen
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/10
Registration district: Hutchesontown
Civil parish: Glasgow Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 7 Crown St Backland
Occupation: Labourers Son Scolar
ED: 29
Household schedule number: 27
Line: 2
Roll: CSSCT1861_112
Household Members:
Name Age
Frances McCall 46 b Ireland, labourer
Elen McCall 40 b Ireland
James McCall 8
Mary McCall 18 b Ireland
Mary Odonnel 50
Bridget Odonnel 19
Mary Curn 24