Hi, wondering if anyone could please do lookup in the Scotland census for my James McCall, b 1855 in Lanarkshire, I believe. No info on his father but his mother was Helen .... he married Catherine (could be with a "K") (nee Stirling) date unsure, they had one child, Agnes, b c1878 in Lanarkshire. Any info at all would be greatly appreciated, ie. birth/marriage/addresses/dates!
Thank you in advance, Carole in Canada
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Hi Carole,
No birth 1855-56 for James McCall, Scotlands People, Statutory Registers. No birth 1854-55 for James McCall, Scotlands People, Old Parish Registers
No marriage 1870-1880 for James McCall & Katherine Stirling. No marriage 1870-1880 for James McCall & Catherine Stirling. No marriage 1870-1880 for James McCall & ............ Stirling
One marriage 1873 Tradeston, Glasgow for a James McCall & Catherine Diamond which probably ties in with this birth................... 1877 MCCALL AGNES F TRADESTON GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/13 0616
Only other Lanarkshire birth at this time.......................... 1878 MCCALL AGNES MCNEE F MILTON GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/08 0427 Milton is in the north of Glasgow................Cambuslang is in the south of Glasgow.
Sorry, it's not really a lot of help.
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Hi Frank,
Sorry, think I replied to your message by clicking on your name, instead of clicking on "reply" (the page is new from the last time I used it!!). Thought I'd reply this way, you were wondering what my initial request was.....
I completely got the wrong surname (don't ask.... bit embarrassing!), for Catherine (have seen it spelled with a K in censuses too) is DIAMOND. I received info from you for a marriage, 1873 Tradeston, Glasgow for James McCall & Catherine Diamond - I am almost certain this is it!! Many thanks. Also, my Agnes McCall was born in 1877 (I always thought it was 1878) in Glasgow. So it all fits!!
I was wondering if you know how to go about ordering a marriage certificate for James and Catherine(K)?? Also, do you know if there are proper birth certificates to be ordered too (I have a copy of Agnes' birth cert. but not very legible, think I got it on Scotlands People and had to pay credits, cost me a fortune searching...
Also, was wondering if there are ANY more records AT ALL on Scottish Censuses for James and/or Catherine and their families... really want to find more Scottish relatives! One other thing.... have you any way of searching Irish records, don't know where to start to trace Helen McCall (one thing I remember is my mom telling me that her gran (Agnes above) always said her gran was from Ballymena - possible?? Helen shows on the 1881 Scotland Census as being 60 years old (so born c1821, Ireland).
Incidentally, James, Catherine and Agnes show on the 1891 Census in England where they lived the rest of their lives. Thanks again Frank!
Regards,
Carole in Canada
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Hi Jenny,
Yes, this is my James and Catherine! Thank you, have a copy of that record. Got additional info from Frank - looks like I found James and Catherine's marriage (I somehow got my "wires crossed", bit embarrassing... I seemed to remember that Catherine's maiden name was Silver.... it was DIAMOND, haha). Anyway, can now order a marriage cert., if I find out how!
Many thanks,
Carole in Canada
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Hi Carole,
I have your marriage details but no time just now. Send it later tonight if you want.
Not good on Ireland ............sorry.
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Birth for Katherine?
CATHERINE DIAMOND Pedigree Female Event(s): Birth: 30 OCT 1855 Hutchesontown, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Christening: Death: Burial: Parents: Father: JAMES DIAMOND Family Mother: ANNIE COSTULO
Siblings. Mother is Annie Costello.
1. THOMAS DIAMOND - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 14 JAN 1867 Hutchesontown, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland 2. MARY JANE DIAMOND - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 01 MAR 1859 Hutchesontown, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland 3. GEORGE DIAMOND - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 02 AUG 1861 Hutchesontown, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland 4. MARTHA DIAMOND - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 25 MAR 1873 Hutchesontown, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland 5. CATHERINE DIAMOND - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 30 OCT 1855 Hutchesontown, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland 6. ANNABELLA DIAMOND - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 13 JUL 1870 Hutchesontown, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland 7. DANIEL DIAMOND - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 23 OCT 1856 Hutchesontown, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland 8. WILLIAM DIAMOND - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 12 JAN 1864 Hutchesontown, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
No sign of her so possibly not this family. Do you know her parents names yet?
1861 Scotland Census
Name: Danl Diamond Age: 5 Estimated birth year: abt 1856 Relationship: Son Father's Name: Jas Mother's Name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Glasg, Lanarksh Registration Number: 644/10 Registration district: Hutchesontown Civil parish: Glasgow Govan County: Lanarkshire Address: 4 Shamrock St ED: 24 Household schedule number: 36 Line: 3 Roll: CSSCT1861_112 Household Members: Name Age Jas Diamond 36 Ann Diamond 30 Joh Diamond 14 Patrick Diamond 12 Anne Diamond 10 Jas Diamond 7 Danl Diamond 5 Mary Diamond 2
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This one is in the right area but there are actually a few Catherines born around the same time.
1871 Scotland Census about Catherine Diamond Name: Catherine Diamond Age: 16 Estimated birth year: abt 1855 Relationship: Daughter Mother's Name: Agnes Gender: Female Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Registration Number: 644/9 Registration district: Tradeston Civil parish: Glasgow Govan County: Lanarkshire Address: 47 Dale Street (2 Back Land) Occupation: Portery Keeper ED: 39 Household schedule number: 46 Line: 23 Roll: CSSCT1871_139 Household Members: Name Age Agnes Diamond 36 Catherine Diamond 16 John Diamond 14
1861 Scotland Census about Catherine Diamond Name: Catherine Diamond Age: 6 Estimated birth year: abt 1855 Relationship: Daughter Father's Name: Manus Mother's Name: Agnes Gender: Female Where born: Glasgow, Lanark Registration Number: 644/10 Registration district: Hutchesontown Civil parish: Glasgow Gorbals County: Lanarkshire Address: 17 Portugal St Occupation: Scholar ED: 99 Household schedule number: 30 Line: 13 Roll: CSSCT1861_113 Household Members: Name Age Manus Diamond 48 b Ireland, Hammerman Agnes Diamond 44 b Kingarth, Buteshire Sarah Diamond 16 Mary Ann Diamond 13 Agnes Diamond 8 Eliza Diamond 11 Catherine Diamond 6 John Diamond 3 Peter Diamond 8 Mo
Parents
PETER DIAMOND Pedigree Male Event(s): Birth: 15 JUL 1860 Hutchesontown, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Christening: Death: Burial: Parents: Father: MANUS DIAMOND Family Mother: AGNES MCPHERSON
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Possible for James?
1871 Scotland Census
Name: Helen McColl Age: 43 Estimated birth year: abt 1828 Relationship: Head Gender: Female Where born: Ireland Registration Number: 644/10 Registration district: Hutchesontown Civil parish: Glasgow Govan County: Lanarkshire Address: 26 Thistle St Occupation: Farm Servant ED: 75 Household schedule number: 83 Line: 19 Roll: CSSCT1871_142 Household Members: Name Age Helen McColl 43 Mary McColl 27 James McColl 17
1861 Scotland Census about James McCall Name: James McCall Age: 8 Estimated birth year: abt 1853 Relationship: Son Father's Name: Frances Mother's Name: Elen Gender: Male Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Registration Number: 644/10 Registration district: Hutchesontown Civil parish: Glasgow Govan County: Lanarkshire Address: 7 Crown St Backland Occupation: Labourers Son Scolar ED: 29 Household schedule number: 27 Line: 2 Roll: CSSCT1861_112 Household Members: Name Age Frances McCall 46 b Ireland, labourer Elen McCall 40 b Ireland James McCall 8 Mary McCall 18 b Ireland Mary Odonnel 50 Bridget Odonnel 19 Mary Curn 24
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