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Please may ask for a lookup on John Francis Evelyn Morley
Births Sep 1879
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Morley John Francis E Steyning 2b 294

Parents were divorced 1882 and mother got custody. Name of Mother was Annie Geraldine Morley (nee Lloyd). Someone has indicated that there may be a probable remarriage at St George's, Hanover Square in Sep 1884 to Adolphus Brett Crosbie or George Edward Rose 1a 798

Any assistance would be welcome

Thanks

Dennis

Where is Steyning

Sussex

STEYNING REGISTRATION DISTRICT
Registration County : Sussex.
Created : 1.7.1837.
Abolished : 1.4.1935 (succeeded by Chanctonbury, Cuckfield, Hove and Worthing districts).
Sub-districts : Hove; New Shoreham; Preston; Shoreham; Steyning

Have you found him on any of the censuses?

No, sorry. One other piece that may help find the mother is that she was born in Paris in 1854.

Seems a bit of a coinsdence (sp) that the is an Anne Geraldine Lloyd in that same qtr

Do you know who she is

Is there any chance you can nudge your other thread regarding this Lady as i know i have helped with her before & i need to refresh my memory

Hi Julie

The Anne G Lloyd is possibly Annie Morley as Lloyd was her maiden name which she probably reverted to after the divorce. I'm unsure of which of the males in this section she may have married and was hoping the 1891 census would show her under the new married name with a son called John b.1879.

Regard

Dennis

Her first marriage at age 15 or 16 was to Wilbraham Morley
Marriages Sep 1870
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LLOYD Annie Geraldine Portsea 2b 695
MORLEY Wilbraham Evors E Portsea 2b 695

UPDATE

This is definitely the right Ann as both her maiden and married name are recorded in 1884 - I've come across this happening in other remarriages when they are entered on BMD

Have found George with Elizabeth

George Edward Rose
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Elizabeth Angele
Gender: Male
Where born: Westminster, London, England
Civil parish: Streatham
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Streatham
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Streatham
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
George Edward Rose 28
Elizabeth Angele Rose 28
George Allen Rose 5
Elizabeth Angele Rose 4
Esther Jeanette Annie Rose 2
Alice Maud Rose 1
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But can't see your Lady but at least thats narrowed it down

Did you not find your other thread

Hi Julie

Thanks for finding that, so she must have married Adolphus Brett Crosbie
BMD has possible birth

Births Dec 1845
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CROSBIE Adolphus Brett Westbourne 7 490

This is the only one I can find that might fit the marriage to Adolphus in the 1901 census.....but no John!

Name: Geraline Crosbie
Age: 44
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Adophus B
Gender: Female
Where born: France

Civil parish: Alverstoke
Ecclesiastical parish: Alverstoke St Mary and Anglesey St Mark and Newtown Christchurch
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Alverstoke
Sub-registration district: Alverstoke
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Adophus B Crosbie 54 b Westbourne Sussex occ Major General Royal Marines
Geraline Crosbie 44
Rose Clements 35
Edith Hayne 30
E Clements 26

Others in household are servants

The same lady again in the 1891 census ..... but again no John!

Name: Geraldine Crosbie
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: France

Civil parish: St George Hanover Square
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peters and St Lukes
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub-registration district: Belgrave
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Philip MacGregor 44 b East Indies occ Major Royal Artillery
Caroline MacGregor 36 b France
Geraldine Crosbie 36
Daniel Clarke 29
Margaret Harper 32
Alice Bennett 28
Jane Ash 31

Others are servants

Perhaps Adolphus was away with the Royal Marines?

Many thanks to you all for the lookups. Julie the previous search you did was for the brother of Wilbraham on 27 Jan where I asked the following

Please may I ask for a lookup on the following John Evelyn Kingston Morley b1833 possibly in Sussex. His parents should be Arthur Thomas Morley c1801 and Louisa for the 1841 (poss 1851? census). Married in 1853 so should be with wife Caroline in 1861
Marriages Sep 1853
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GREGORY Caroline Juliana Fareham 2b 711
MORLEY John Evelyn Hingston Fareham 2b 711

Regards

Dennis

This is the lady in the 1871 census married to Wilbraham ..... she was born in Paris which fits in with the lady in the other censuses married to Adolpus

Name: Anne G Morley
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Wilbraham E
Gender: Female
Where born: Paris British Subject
Civil parish: Alverstoke
Ecclesiastical parish: Alverstoke
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Alverstoke
Sub-registration district: Alverstoke
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 140
Household Members:
Name Age
Wilbraham E Morley 26 b Burchington Kent occ Lieutenant Royal Marines
Anne G Morley 16
Sarah Pocock 19 Servant

Thanks again.

Dennis

No Dennis this was a while ago as i remember the French connection

& this used to be my board name წ.Julie.წ

Could this be him??


UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Name: John Francis E Morley
Birth Date: abt 1879
Age: 47
Port of Departure: Durban, South Africa
Arrival Date: 20 Dec 1926
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Algoa Bay [Port Elizabeth], Cape Town, East London
Ship Name: Armadale Castle
Search Ship Database: View the 'Armadale Castle' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: The Union Castle Mail Steamship Company
Official Number: 118350


Proposed Address:- 9 Wilbraham Place, London SW1

Occupation:- Civil Servant

Travelling First Class


seemingly travelling alone




sylvia

Dear All

Thanks to your help I have now found proof that she indeed did marry Adolphus Brett Crosbie as their details appear on the peerage site

http://www.thepeerage.com/p37652.htm#i376517

Still doesn't have a mention though of what happened to John Francis Evelyn Morley from Anne's first marriage (divorce gave her sole custody)


UPDATE - sorry did not notice it had gone to page two - thanks for the information on his returning to UK but who did he go with when he left and when??

Found a couple
MORLEY J F E Unknown M 1901 Southampton South Africa Durban (Port Natal) VIEW VIEW
MORLEY J F E 1880 M 1921 Southampton South Africa Cape VIEW VIEW

Regards and thanks

Dennis

??????????????

Just found this 1901 Census reference to a J F E Morley


1901 Census

Name: J F E Morley
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relation: Son <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< this should be BOARDER
Father's Name: Thos <<<<<<< NO
Mother's Name: Mary <<<<<<<NO
Gender: Male

Civil parish: St George Hanover Square
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Eaton Square
County/Island: London
Country: England


Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub-registration district: Belgrave

Thos Barnett 51 Coahcman/Groom
Mary Barnett 58
Lo Norman MacPherson 29 Singel, Boarder, Mining Engineer
Edd Alphonse Lovell 43 Single, Boarder, Customs Collector (Govt Official)
Henry Reg Yorke 26 Single, Boarder, Underwiter Lloyds (on own account)
J F E Morley 21 Single, BOARDER No occupation shown

Address:- 11 & 13 Palace Street

--------------- separate household
Maria Box 45
Edith Cole 20
Elizth Patterson 19
Eva Thompson 20
Elizth Cole 27
Emily Smith 28
Alice Gibbons 30
Mabel Pile 24
Mabel Lilian Kellpatirk 23
Louie Beckerleg 20
Jessica Roda Burrow 24
Ellen Roberts 25
Beatrice Mary Godfrey 22
Rebecca Rose Beresford 22



ancestry transcriber made a real mess up of this entry. They combined about 3 households


As regards J F E Morley ................ the enumerator first wrote SON in realtionship column, then crossed it out and replaced it with " (ditto) to match the entrey Boarder for the 3 men ahead of him on the entry.




sylvia