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1855/56 South Australian Birth, Chandler

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Wendy

Wendy Report 31 May 2010 06:08

Would appreciate if someone could do a lookup for me. Thomas Chandler born 1855/1856 at either Melrose or Anlaby, South Aust. Father was Henry Chandler and Mother may have been Sarah Collis. Thankyou so much. Wendy

Stevendeg

Stevendeg Report 31 May 2010 08:24

Hi Wendy, I have CD-rom of SA birth 1842 to 1906.

However, there is no Thomas Chandler in birth. But there are two children of Henry Chandler and Sarah Collis. They were Henry (b. 1861) and Mary Ann Latitia (b. 1849).

Cheers, Steven.

DavidB0745

DavidB0745 Report 31 May 2010 15:21

Hi Wendy

I have checked as well and Steven is correct. But don't depair as many births weren't registered around that time as the Parents may have been living a long distance from any town and they simply never got around to doing the registration. I have an entire family of 8 children like this. They are in the Family Bible, The Church Baptism record but are not in the official birth registrations.

David

Wendy

Wendy Report 31 May 2010 22:39

Hello Steven,
Thankyou very much for the lookup. I just wondered if the record shows where the 2 children of Henry & Sarah were born? Would you mind looking that up for me.

Thanks Wendy

Wendy

Wendy Report 31 May 2010 22:42

Hello David,

Thankyou for your advice. Thomas was born away from the city so as you say it could be quite difficult to find his birth record. Oh well, we just plod on.

Thanks Wendy

DavidB0745

DavidB0745 Report 1 Jun 2010 01:13

Hi Wendy

I'm not at home right now so I don't have access to my CD's but from memory Henry's birth was recorded in Black Springs in the Burra registration District and Marys' was in Adelaide, but I'm not 100% certain of that one. I'll check later tonight and respond.

David

DavidB0745

DavidB0745 Report 1 Jun 2010 15:37

Hi Wendy

Below is what Births I have found PLUS some deaths of children, including Henry (b1861) and Mary Ann (b1849), who I believe are also Henry and Sarah's. It is interesting that there is a death of a Henry Thomas Chandler aged 9 months in 1854. Could this be your Thomas?

I have also found, in case you don't already have the information, the marriage of Henry and Sarah and also possibly their deaths.

South Australian Births 1842-1906

Surname: CHANDLER
Given Names: Mary Ann Latitia
Date: 1849-06-28
Sex: F
Father: Henry CHANDLER
Mother: Sarah COLLIS
Birth Place/Residence: Adelaide
District Code: Ade
Symbol:
Book: 2
Page: 175
Cross Reference:

Surname: CHANDLER
Given Names: Henry
Date: 1861-10-09
Sex: M
Father: Henry CHANDLER
Mother: Sarah COLLIS
Birth Place/Residence: Black Springs
District Code: Bur
Symbol:
Book: 23
Page: 562
Cross Reference:


South Australian Deaths Registrations 1842 to 1915

Surname: CHANDLER
Given Names: Mary Ann Leetitia
Date: 1849-10-15
Sex: F
Age: 3m2w
Status: C
Relative: Henry CHANDLER (F)
Relative 2:
Residence: Adelaide
Death Place: (not recorded)
District Code: Ade
Symbol:
Book: 1
Page: 188
Cross Reference:

Surname: CHANDLER
Given Names: John Henry
Date: 1850-12-16
Sex: M
Age: 6m
Status: C
Relative: Henry CHANDLER (F)
Relative 2:
Residence: Port Rd
Death Place: (not recorded)
District Code: Ade
Symbol:
Book: 2
Page: 48
Cross Reference:

Surname: CHANDLER
Given Names: Henry Thomas
Date: 1854-11-25
Sex: M
Age: 9m
Status: C
Relative: Henry CHANDLER (F)
Relative 2:
Residence: Adelaide
Death Place: (not recorded)
District Code: Ade
Symbol:
Book: 3
Page: 90
Cross Reference:

Surname: CHANDLER
Given Names: Henry
Date: 1862-03-17
Sex: M
Age: 5m
Status: C
Relative: Henery CHANDLER (F)
Relative 2:
Residence: Black Springs
Death Place: Black Springs
District Code: Bur
Symbol:
Book: 14
Page: 133
Cross Reference:

Surname: CHANDLER
Given Names: Elizabeth
Date: 1867-03-25
Sex: F
Age: 7m
Status: C
Relative: Henry CHANDLER (F)
Relative 2:
Residence: Undalya
Death Place: Undalya
District Code: Cla
Symbol:
Book: 26
Page: 498
Cross Reference:

Undalya is very close to Black Springs

This appears to be Henry’s wife Sarah as she has died at Black Springs

Surname: CHANDLER
Given Names: Sarah
Date: 1864-04-15
Sex: F
Age: 36y
Status: M
Relative: Henery CHANDLER (H)
Relative 2:
Residence: Black Springs
Death Place: Black Springs
District Code: Bur
Symbol:
Book: 19
Page: 16
Cross Reference:

This maybe Henry as the place of residence, Melrose, is in the vicinity of Black Springs and the age corresponds to his birth year when married

Surname: CHANDLER
Given Names: Henry
Date: 1876-03-16
Sex: M
Age: 54y
Status: N
Relative: (not recorded)
Relative 2:
Residence: Melrose
Death Place: Adelaide
District Code: Ade
Symbol: H
Book: 72
Page: 145
Cross Reference:

South Australian Marriages, Registrations 1842-1916

Groom: CHANDLER
Given names: Henry
Bride: COLLIS
Given names: Sarah
Date: 1847-11-05
Groom Age: 25
Status: S
Groom's Father: [unrecorded]
Bride Age: 20
Status: S
Bride's Father: [unrecorded]
Place: Holy Trinity Church Adelaide
District: Ade
Symbol:
Book/Page: 2/121
Cross Reference:

I Hope this helps

David

Stevendeg

Stevendeg Report 2 Jun 2010 03:31

Hi Wendy, it is my pleasure.

I am at work at the moment so I remember that Thomas Chandler was married to Ms Cock (I can't remember her name) in 1877. His age was 20. That's mean he was born around 1856. His father was Henry.

I will look up BMD CD-rom for his marriage tonight and I will contact you.

Cheers, Steven.

Gael

Gael Report 2 Jun 2010 03:42

The only Thomas I could find was this one:

Name: Henry Thomas Chandler
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 12 Mar 1854
Baptism/Christening Place: Adelaide, South Australia, Australia
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Henry Chandler
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Sarah
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I01846-2
System Origin: Australia-EASy
Source Film Number: 951872
Reference Number: Vol 2 p379
Collection: Australia Births and Baptisms, 1792-1981

Stevendeg

Stevendeg Report 2 Jun 2010 10:27

Hi Wendy,

Thomas Chandler's wife was Harriett. Do you have a copy of their marriage certificate? Oh, he was 21 years old. Harriett was 20 years old.

Do you know when he died? If he died after 1907, his death certificate would show what his birthplace was. I could not find his death details before 1915.

Cheers, Steven.

DavidB0745

DavidB0745 Report 2 Jun 2010 15:41

Hi wendy

Following up on Steven's and Gael's input I have found the following:-


Marriage of Thomas and Harriet

Groom: CHANDLER
Given names: Thomas
Bride: COCK
Given names: Harriett
Date: 1877-06-30
Groom Age: 21
Status: S
Groom's Father: Henry CHANDLER
Bride Age: 20
Status: S
Bride's Father: William COCK
Place: Trinity Church [Adelaide]
District: Ade
Symbol:
Book/Page: 111/1180
Cross Reference:


Births to Thomas and Harriet

Surname: CHANDLER
Given Names: Ernest Albert
Date: 1878-04-14
Sex: M
Father: Thomas CHANDLER
Mother: Harriett COCK
Birth Place/Residence: North Adelaide
District Code: Ade
Symbol:
Book: 199
Page: 409
Cross Reference:

Surname: CHANDLER
Given Names: Charles Wood
Date: 1879-09-27
Sex: M
Father: Thomas CHANDLER
Mother: Harriet COX
Birth Place/Residence: Terowie
District Code: Bur
Symbol:
Book: 228
Page: 286
Cross Reference:

Surname: CHANDLER
Given Names: Bertram Howard
Date: 1881-12-23
Sex: M
Father: Thomas CHANDLER
Mother: Harriett COCK
Birth Place/Residence: Adelaide
District Code: Ade
Symbol:
Book: 274
Page: 387
Cross Reference:

Surname: CHANDLER
Given Names: Harold Claude Victor
Date: 1884-03-14
Sex: M
Father: Thomas CHANDLER
Mother: Harriet COCK
Birth Place/Residence: Adelaide
District Code: Ade
Symbol:
Book: 323
Page: 477
Cross Reference:

Surname: CHANDLER
Given Names: Henry
Date: 1886-05-31
Sex: M
Father: Thomas CHANDLER
Mother: Harriet COCK
Birth Place/Residence: Jamestown
District Code: Cla
Symbol:
Book: 374
Page: 161
Cross Reference:

Surname: CHANDLER
Given Names: Ethel Florence Mabel
Date: 1887-11-21
Sex: F
Father: Thomas CHANDLER
Mother: Hariet COCK
Birth Place/Residence: Jamestown
District Code: Cla
Symbol:
Book: 408
Page: 220
Cross Reference:

Death of child of Thomas and Harriet

Surname: CHANDLER
Given Names: Henry
Date: 1886-06-01
Sex: M
Age: 1d
Status: C
Relative: Thomas CHANDLER (F)
Relative 2:
Residence: Jamestown
Death Place: Jamestown
District Code: Cla
Symbol:
Book: 155
Page: 473
Cross Reference:

It appears that both Thomas and Harriet died after 1915 as there is no record of their deaths up to then.

David

Wendy

Wendy Report 4 Jun 2010 12:11

Hello David,
Thankyou for all that work. I do have a copy of marriage cert. for Thomas (21yrs) and Harriet Cock (20yrs) 30/6/1877. Father is Henry Chandler.
I also have just received Thomas's death cert. Died 4/1/1939 at 84yrs, in Adelaide. Birthplace is listed as Melrose S.A.
I also have my grandmother's (Ada M.G. nee Chandler) birth cert. She was born 3/7/1890 in Broken Hill. It states father as Thomas Chandler 34yrs, birthplace Anlaby, S.A.
Through family records it seems Thomas lived around Sevenhill near Clare so maybe him and his father alike moved around a bit due to work.
Once again I appreciate all the replies from everyone.
Wendy