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mary glover 1826

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Christine

Christine Report 5 Feb 2012 19:24

mary was born ashby de la zouch in leicestershire,is it possible for her to be on 2 census sheets one for her home and one for where she is employed im stuck with this as both entries are identicle,im looking for her parents please help if possible,regards christine

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 5 Feb 2012 19:27

Christine - which census year does she appear to have been duplicated?

(It's not impossible for that to happen)

If it's the 1841 then bear in mind that ages were rounded on that census and relationships aren't shown. What might look like the same person may not be. Quite possible to have two people with the same name, born around the same time and close to each other.

Tell us more about "your" Mary ....

Braken

Braken Report 5 Feb 2012 19:39

When was Mary married do you know and to who

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 5 Feb 2012 19:41

I can see 11 Mary Glover's born in Leicestershire in 1926

Christine

Christine Report 5 Feb 2012 19:42

sorry yes it was the 1841 census,ive got her married to a thomas hall in 1838 june Q but i must be on the wrong line as she would only be 12 maybe 13 thanks for helping

Braken

Braken Report 5 Feb 2012 19:48

I am sorry I would like to clarfy

Mary Ashby De La Zouch is her maiden name and Glover is her married name?

Carol

Christine

Christine Report 5 Feb 2012 20:00

ashby de la zouch is a small town in leicestershire her name is mary glover and became mary hall when she married thomas hall 1n 1836,well thomas hall born 1820 living at 5 market st ashby de la zouch in 1871 censushe was born in the village of repton derbyshire (which was liestershire at some time) he married a mary a ???? which my research has come up with mary a hall born c1825 hope this helps sorry for any confusion ,christine

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 5 Feb 2012 20:05

???

Mary Hall
England and Wales Census, 1841
birth: 1826 Leicestershire
census: 1841 Ashby De La Zouch,? Leicestershire,? England


name: Mary Hall
event: Census
event date: 1841
gender: Female
age: 15
birthplace: Leicestershire
record type: Household
registration district: Ashby De La Zouch Union
sub-district: Ashby De La Zouch
civil parish: Ashby De La Zouch
county: Leicestershire

Braken

Braken Report 5 Feb 2012 20:05

Sorry me again

Mary born 1826
married in 1836 she would have been 10

Can we come forward a generation please

Christine

Christine Report 5 Feb 2012 20:26

ive got this one round my neck perhaps i should go back to the beginning your all so helpful, chris

Braken

Braken Report 5 Feb 2012 20:31

Please don't go We want to help you we just need a little more info Can you give us the generation after her

Bye the way there is deffinatly two differant Mary's on the 1841 same name same place very difficult to know which one is correct

Ivy

Ivy Report 5 Feb 2012 21:59

Just posting 1881 census possible (address doesn't fit but the rest works):

Name: Thomas Hall
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Hall
Gender: Male
Where born: Repton, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Ashby De La Zouch
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street Address: 2 North St 31 Court
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Tailor

Registration district: Ashby De La Zouch
Sub-registration district: Ashby De La Zouch
ED, institution, or vessel: 10

Piece: 3141
Folio: 6
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Hall 52
Mary Ann Hall 54 birthplace per image Stanley's End, Gloucestershire
Fanny Hall 14
Emma Hall 11
Mary A. Hall 5

(Children all born Ashby Z)

Ivy

Ivy Report 5 Feb 2012 22:03

So this is the 1871, at 5 Market Street:

Name: Thomas Hall
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A Hall
Gender: Male
Where born: Repton, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Ashby de la Zouch
Town: Ashby de la Zouch
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Ashby De La Zouch
Sub-registration district: Ashby de la Zouch
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 48
Piece: 3247
Folio: 87
Page Number: 9

Name Age
Thomas Hall 42
Mary A Hall 46 (again birthplace Stanley's End Gloucestershire)
John F W Hall 20
Mary A E Hall 18
Harry Hall 13
Sarah J Hall 9
Harriett Hall 6
Fanny Hall 4
Emma Hall 1

Ivy

Ivy Report 5 Feb 2012 22:05

1861:

Name: Thomas Hall
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Hall
Gender: Male
Where born: Repton, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Ashby de la Zouch
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Ashby de la Zouch
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Ashby De La Zouch
Sub-registration district: Ashby de la Zouch
ED, institution, or vessel: 9

Household schedule number: 208
Piece: 2270
Folio: 24
Page Number: 41

Name Age
Thomas Hall 33
Mary Ann Hall 35 (born Stanley's End, Glouc)
John F W Hall 10 (born B'ham
- the remainder of the children are all born Ashby de la Z)
Mary A B Hall 8
Hannah Hall 6
Harry Hall 3
Thomas Hale 1
Henry Taylor 85

Ivy

Ivy Report 5 Feb 2012 22:19

1851 census:

Name: Maryann Hull
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Relation: Visitor
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Kings Stanley, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Birmingham St Thomas
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Thomas
ED, institution, or vessel: 18

Household schedule number: 80
Piece: 2052
Folio: 482
Page Number: 20

Name Age
Peter Dowding 27
Emma Maria Dowding 24
Elizabeth Ann Dowding 2
Selezia Judith Dowding 6 Mo
Thomas Hull 22 (image shows Hall, a tailor)
Maryann Hull 27
John Fredrick Hull 6 Mo

Ivy

Ivy Report 5 Feb 2012 22:21

Only two individuals on the 1851 census give a place of birth as Stanley End Gloucestershire. One is living in Minchinhampton, and the other in Eastington. Looking on the map, these places bracket Leonard Stanley and Kings Stanley, so it looks a fair bet as if Kings Stanley is her parish of birth.

Braken

Braken Report 5 Feb 2012 22:31

two marrages for thomas in 1848 one to
Mary Anne Glover and one to
Mary Anne Spriggs
both same time same place don't know which is correct

TessAkaBridgetTheFidget

TessAkaBridgetTheFidget Report 5 Feb 2012 23:36


Possibly Mary Ann Glover and Mary AnnSpriggs are the same person.
Either Mary Ann had already been married, one surname being her maiden name and the other her first married name;


or Mary Ann was known by two different surnames, possibly taking the name of a step-father but also sometimes using her original surname.


Hope this doesn't confuse things.

Christine

Christine Report 6 Feb 2012 11:01

thanks for all your info ive only just been able to get on my pc so will study all this info and let you know if i find the answer thanks again,regards christine

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

Ivy

Ivy Report 8 Feb 2012 07:51

Just noting that Christine has said thanks to all, and believes that the marriage she was seeking is

Mary Ann Alder married Thomas Hall in Birmingham 29th Oct 1848