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My great x 3 grandmother was Charlotte Keylock etc (as above). From her daughter's marriage certificate her husband's Christian name was William.

On a visit to the Gloucester archives a few years ago I thought I had found her marriage at Gloucester St Aldate.

28/5/1820 William Caylock to Charlotte Bullock - which fits in nicely with the birth of her first child Charles, baptized 5/11/1820, OK so they jumped the gun a bit!

However I have recently found another William Caylock marriage in the following year, 1821, to an Elizabeth Holder, both are widowed. This marriage has me a little concerned as I now have doubts about whether Charlotte Bullock really was my ancestor. Are these both the same William? Both are from the parish of St John the Baptist, the only difference that I can see being that in the 1820 marriage William signed his own name and in the 1821 marriage he made his mark.

Charlotte was born c1796 in Sherington (1851), Charinton (1861) or Cherrington (1871)

Any thoughts from anyone as to whether the 2 William Caylock marriages are the same chap?

There's also this one





WILLIAM KEYLOCK

Marriages:
Spouse: ELISABETH CLAPHAM

Marriage: 30 DEC 1818 North Cerney, Gloucester, England


Who was the daughter whose marriage cert you have ?

let's hope someone can help - you do so much for others on here!!

found this for starters


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CHARLES CAYLOCK Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 25 JUL 1819 Whittington, Gloucester, England
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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM CAYLOCK Family
Mother: ANN
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

just realised - mother is Ann!!

Charles Caylock
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 25 Jul 1819 WHITTINGTON,?GLOUCESTER,?ENGLAND
residence: Gloucester,? England
parents: William Caylock,? Ann


name: Charles Caylock
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 25 Jul 1819
baptism/christening place: WHITTINGTON,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND
father's name: William Caylock
mother's name: Ann
indexing project (batch) number: C03279-3
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 855692

William Caylock
England Marriages, 1538–1973
marriage: 28 May 1820 St Aldate,? Gloucester,? Gloucester,? England
spouse: Charlotte Bullock


groom's name: William Caylock
bride's name: Charlotte Bullock
marriage date: 28 May 1820
marriage place: St Aldate, Gloucester, Gloucester, England
indexing project (batch) number: I02210-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 991283

William Caylock
England Marriages, 1538–1973
marriage: 06 May 1821 St Aldate,? Gloucester,? Gloucester,? England
spouse: Elizabeth Holder


groom's name: William Caylock
bride's name: Elizabeth Holder
marriage date: 06 May 1821
marriage place: St Aldate, Gloucester, Gloucester, England
indexing project (batch) number: I02210-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 991283

The marriage certificate I have is that of Harriet Kaylock to Charles Jennings, 7/12/1851, St Mark's Parish Church in the city of Gloucester. Her father is William Kaylock, Driver, it does not say deceased but as Charlotte is a widow in 1851 I assume he was.

William and Charlotte had 7 children, the last being born in 1835, I have all of their baptisms, thanks to Victor, but unlike our Jersey ones they don't give the mother's maiden name.

From what you've found Ann it would appear that Caylock in its various forms is a more common name than I had thought.

Yes Ann, those are the marriages that I found, but on the Forest of Dean site.

The fact that William signed his name for the 1st marriage but made his mark for the 2nd gives me some hope that they are not the same man.

Am I correct in thinking that Harriet is your ancestor for definite and you have only discovered that her father was William from her marriage certificate?

So you don't really know who her mother was ?

If so, what you really need is Harriet's birth certificate.

How old was she on marriage ?


EDIT :

Maybe too early for a birth cert so we're looking for a baptism

She has the baptism but no mother's maiden name on it!
Does it say Charlotte?

Is this Charlotte's death cert ? ( age a little out )

Deaths Sep 1876 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Keylock Charlotte -85 - Gloucester 6a 191


oR

Did she remarry ( if so her father's name may be on the cert)


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Marriages Dec 1855
KEYLOCK Charlotte - Cirencester 6a 565

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Marriages Dec 1861
Keylock Charlotte - Gloucester 6a 515

Harriet, baptized 1832, is definitely my ancestor and I have certificates from my Grandfather going backwards to verify this. Her mother was Charlotte from census records 1841-1871 where she is either raising her children alone or later living with Harriet's sister Selina or with her grandchildren (1871) after the death of their mother.

Charlotte had not remarried by 1871 so I think it unlikely, the 1861 marriage is almost certainly that of another daughter.

There is a baptism for a Charlotte Bullock - is Sherington, Charinton or Cherrington likely to be Ancestryspeak for Shurdington?

christening: 22 Jun 1794 SHURDINGTON,?GLOUCESTER,?ENGLAND
residence: Gloucester,? England

parents: Benjn. Bullock,? Mary

name: Charlotte Bullock
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 22 Jun 1794
baptism/christening place: SHURDINGTON,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND
father's name: Benjn. Bullock
mother's name: Mary
indexing project (batch) number: C03141-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 427772

So you have the name Charlotte from the census ?

Does she never appear living with William ?

Could Harriet have made William up ( happens sometimes if mother is unmarried) or even mistaken her grandfather for her father ?



I ask because I found this .....


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CHARLOTTE KEYLOCK
Birth:
Christening: 16 JUL 1797 Sevenhampton, Gloucester, England

Parents:
Father: WILLIAM KEYLOCK
Mother: HANNAH

Charlotte does say she is a widow on the 1851 Census ....... but that, as we all know, doesn't mean anything!

do all the children name a father on their marriages?

is this your Charlotte and her children?

In 1851

Name Age
Charlotte Keylock 50
Charlotte Keylock 24
Marie Keylock 22
Harriett Keylock 19
Ellen Keylock 11


and 1841

Name Age
Charlotte Keylock 45
Charles Keylock 20
Emma Keylock 15
Charlotte Keylock 15
Maria Keylock 13
Harriett Keylock 8
Selina Keylock 6




sylvia

If you have all the children's baptisms and yet you only discovered William's name from a marriage cert, I'm guessing his name doesn't appear on those baptisms ?

I didn't only discover William's name from the marriage certificate, I had that first but Victor, who does Gloucestershire look ups, found these baptisms for me.

Charles KEYLOCK bap. 5/11/1820 @ St John the Baptist, Gloucester, child of William (Labourer & Charlotte KEYLOCK.

Baptisms @ St John the Baptist, Gloucester, f. William (Labourer) & m. Charlotte Keylock:-
10/12/1822, Emma, dau
22/10/1826, Charlotte, dau
01/06/1828, Maria, dau
06/09/1830, Adelaide, dau
12/08/1832, Harriet, dau
04/10/1835 Selina, dau (married Luke Causton)