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Gavin

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If anybody is still looking at this family John ASHTON & Sarah M W ASHTON were my GG Grand parents.
There grandson George Frederick came to New Zealand in 1913 on board the Orvetio

Name Day & Sons: title deeds &c.
Title Assignment. 1. John Ashton of Sutton, Isle of Ely, Cambridgeshire, brewer, and Sarah Maria his wife. 2. George Rust, Charles Veasey and David Veasey of Huntingdon, bankers and copartners. By way of a mortgage of certain parts or shares of £2000 and £4500 for securing £500 and interest. (In bundle with 4824/232, 233, 234, 236).
Date 29 May 1848
ReferenceNo 4824/235
Repository Huntingdonshire Archives


Title Ashton, Allpress - Miller and merchant of St Ives: will
Date 1852
Description Wrapper: Part of draft concerning will and articles of agreement between Richard Wright and James Nowsome-mee Wright, Mary Wright, all of Bermondsey. Ann Peace of Lewisham and Richard Wright of Middlesex.
ReferenceNo AH16:dated 1852/1
Repository Huntingdonshire Archives

(above can be found on below link, well worth using different searches)

http://calm.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/ArchiveCatalogue/SearchArchives.htm


(and putting "allpress ashton" in searchbox, National Archives website, has some bits too)

Chris :)

Many thanks for all your information. I have the various census returns since 1841 for John and Sarah's family; also various B/M/D certificates for some of their children. It's poor John's parents I'm seeking. The signatures on his marriage record are definitely those of known relatives but can't decipher the name of his father(?). Looks like Allpress/Allpr.... Tried those in web search but no success. I seek him here, I seek him there ... PJ

The National Archives has in its "Documents Online" the scanned copy of the probate granted in July 1849 for the will of John Ashton of Sutton, available to download for £3.50

The Cambridgeshire Family History Society have a burial record from Sutton:

John Ashton, of the parish, buried 5 April 1849, aged 39 years.

If the family were in Sutton, then his death may be registered in Cambridgeshire; there is only one death for John Ashton in the late 1840s, in the Jan-Mar quarter of 1849, in the Ely registration district, which is a good fit for Sutton.

John is also mentioned on Familysearch as the father of the last three boys (Edward, Rowland and William Cecil, all baptised in Sutton on 29 April 1849).

The marriage in 1833 in Cheshunt was by licence - the application to the Vicar General for the marriage licence is available via FindMyPast/Society of Genealogists.

1881

Edward T.J. ASHTON Head M Male 40 St Ives, Huntingdon, England Butcher & Beer Retailer
Susan ASHTON Wife M Female 40 Godmanchester, Huntingdon, England
Edward W. ASHTON Son U Male 15 St Ives, Huntingdon, England General Laborer
Arthur W. ASHTON Son Male 12 St Ives, Huntingdon, England Scholar
Sarah M.W. ASHTON Dau Female 11 St Ives, Huntingdon, England Scholar
Lucy ASHTON Dau Female 8 St Ives, Huntingdon, England Scholar
John ASHTON Son Male 7 St Ives, Huntingdon, England Scholar
Jessimine ASHTON Dau Female 6 St Ives, Huntingdon, England Scholar
George F. ASHTON Son Male 5 St Ives, Huntingdon, England Scholar
William C. ASHTON Son Male 4 St Ives, Huntingdon, England Scholar
Fanny ASHTON Dau Female 3 St Ives, Huntingdon, England Scholar
Annie THODAY Sister In Law U Female 30 Godmanchester, Huntingdon, England Domestic Servant


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Source Information:
Dwelling High Street The Ship
Census Place Colne, Huntingdon, England
Family History Library Film 1341385
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1606 / 43
Page Number 6

Roland Or Rowland Ashton Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth: 30 MAR 1843 Saint Ives, Huntingdon, England

Christening:
Death: 1868
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Parents:
Father: John Ashton Family
Mother: Sarah Maria W. White

1881

Rowland E. ASHTON Head M Male 38 St Ives, Huntingdon, England Coffee House Keeper
Susan NEAL Unm U Female 18 Walworth, Surrey, England Servant Domestic
Rebecca CLARK Unm U Female 15 London Holborn , London, Middlesex, England Servant Domestic


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Source Information:
Dwelling 324 Hol Ss
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341074
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0340 / 84
Page Number 7

1881

Sarah Maria Woollaston ASHTON Head W Female 70 St Ives, Huntingdon, England Drapers Widow
Mary Sophia ASHTON G Daur Female 12 London, London, Middlesex, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling Darwood Place
Census Place St Ives, Huntingdon, England
Family History Library Film 1341385
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1608 / 77
Page Number 41

???

Sarah White
England and Wales, Census, 1841
birth: 1811 Huntingdonshire
census: 1841 St Neots,? Huntingdonshire,? England


name: Sarah White
event: Census
event date: 1841
gender: Female
age: 30
birthplace: Huntingdonshire
record type: Household
registration district: St Neots
sub-district: St Neots
civil parish: St Neots
county: Huntingdonshire

???

John Ashton
England and Wales, Census, 1841
birth: 1810
census: 1841 St Ives,? Huntingdonshire,? England


name: John Ashton
event: Census
event date: 1841
gender: Male
age: 31
record type: Household
registration district: St Ives Union
sub-district: St Ives
civil parish: St Ives
county: Huntingdonshire

Just to give us something to work back from - 1881:

ASHTON, Sarah Maria Woollaston Head Widow F 70 1811 Drapers Widow St Ives Huntingdonshire
ASHTON, Mary Sophia Grand Daughter Single F 12 1869 Scholar
London, London Middlesex

Registration District: St Ives
Civil Parish: St Ives

Address: Darwood Place, St Ives County: Huntingdonshire

1861:

ASHTON, Sarah M Head Widow F 51 1810 Dressmaker St Ives Huntingdonshire
ASHTON, Sarah S Daughter Unmarried F 24 1837 Dressmaker St Ives Huntingdonshire
ASHTON, Fanny Daughter Unmarried F 23 1838 Assist Shoebinder St Ives Huntingdonshire
ASHTON, Josepha I Daughter Unmarried F 22 1839 Milliner St Ives Huntingdonshire
ASHTON, Edward Son Unmarried M 20 1841 Butcher St Ives Huntingdonshire
ASHTON, Rowland Son Unmarried M 18 1843 Butcher St Ives Huntingdonshire

Registration District: St Ives
Civil Parish: St Ives

Address: Cromwell Place, St Ives County: Huntingdonshire

1841:


ASHTON, John M 31 1810 Not born in County
ASHTON, Sarah F 32 1809 Huntingdonshire
ASHTON, Sarah F 5 1836 Huntingdonshire
ASHTON, Fanny F 4 1837 Huntingdonshire
ASHTON, Josepha F 3 1838 Huntingdonshire
ASHTON, Edward M 1 1840 Huntingdonshire

Registration District: St Ives Union
Civil Parish: St Ives

Address: Green End, St Ives County: Huntingdonshire

Pat, where was he on the 1841 and what was the year of birth shown on that census?

Can anyone help me to find John Ashton who married Sarah Maria Woollaston White in 1833? I have traced the Woollaston/White connection back through many generations and marriages. BUT no trace of poor old John, apart from marriage record (in Herts) and entry on 1841 census. when he was of 'independent means'. Thanks. PJ