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Her mother died in 1895 when she was abt 8, and she was with the Grays in 1901.

She married in Glanford Brigg, the district the Grays lived, rather than Hull where her family were still living in 1909.

1911 England Census
Name: William Barrass
Age in 1911: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Holy Trinity and St Mary
County/Island: Yorkshire-East Riding
Country: England
Street Address: 5 Coach and Horses Yard Myton Gate Hull

Marital Status: Widowed

Occupation: Lighterman

Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Humber
Piece: 28752
Household Members: Name Age
William Barrass 60
Fred Barrass 32
Lizzie Barrass 40 - Housekeeper


You would have thought the elder daughter, Elizabeth/Lizzie, would have been able to look after her. I think you have a bit of a mystery on your hands.

I can't find any connection, James Gray was from Rawcliffe in Yorkshire and Alice Maria from Amcotts to the west of Scunthorpe. Neither place seems to have any connection to the Barrasses.

Thanks PricklyHolly.

I think I shall just leave her on my tree for now but put a note on saying she is more likely to be a close family friend than a relative.

Thank you both again for all your help. I have to go and get ready for work now but I will check this thread later.

All the best

Jane

There does not appear to be a connection with James Gray's marriage.

Marriages Jun 1877 (>99%)

Elwis Alice Marian Glanford B. 7a 1455
GRAY James Glanford B. 7a 1455

Just goes to show that you cant believe what you read in a newspaper.

All the best

Jane

Hi Ozibird

Mine is Eva Barrass and John Chrisropher Camm.

Thank you.

PricklyHolly that would be right. Her mother would still be alive in 1901 so she was just visiting the family. So at this point she is probably a family friend.

Thanks

Jane

This girl obviously. The Eva in Hull married Edward Chappell but is too young.

1911 England Census
Name: Eva Camm
Age in 1911: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: West Halton and Whitton
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street Address: West Halton Doncaster

Marital Status: Married

Registration district: Glanford Brigg
Registration District Number: 424
Sub-registration district: Winterton

Piece: 20074
Household Members: Name Age
John Christopher Camm 24
Eva Camm 24
Cyril Camm 11/12

I havent any proodf she was adopted. I think I saw her reffered to as Eva Gray in a newspaper article . The article was about a marriage or orbituary.I will have to go and look it up.

Thank you both again for all your help.

Jane

Now which is your girl?

Marriages Jun 1909
BARRASS Eva Glanford B. 7a 1777
BEAUMONT John George M Glanford B. 7a 1777
BUTCHER Margaret Mabel M Glanford B. 7a 1777
CAMM John Christopher Glanford B 7a 1777


Marriages Sep 1909
BARRASS Eva Hull 9d 557
BATESON William Gilder Hull 9d 557
CHAPPELL Edward Hull 9d 557
NESS Kate Hull 9d 557

Eva is down as "Visitor" on the 1901.

Thank you PricklyHolly and Ozibird. I The information you have given me is a bit of a surprise.I didnt realise Eva was living with Jame and Alice Gray in the 1901 cenus. I wonder what the connection is between the Barrass family and the Grays

Please can you tell me how she is related to the Grays on the 1901.

PricklyHolly I have just found a death for Elizabeth Barrass. 1895 aged 44 which would be about right.


Thanks again ladies

Jane

Formal adoption wasn't introduced until 1927. So before then it was an arrangement often made by family, within family. Usually the word adopted was used on the census.

What proof have you that the Gray family 'adopted' her?

Ozi

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Marriages Jun 1872 (>99%)

Barrass William Hull 9d 314
RICHARDSON Elizabeth Ann Hull 9d 314



Household Record 1881 British Census

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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William BARRASS Head M Male 30 Stamford, York, England General Labourer
Elizabeth A. BARRASS Wife M Female 30 Hull, York, England
Elizabeth BARRASS Daur U Female 8 Hull, York, England Scholar
William BARRASS Son U Male 6 Hull, York, England Scholar
Elizabeth A. BARRASS Son U Male 2 Hull, York, England >>>(Frederick on the image)


Dwelling 3 Coach & Horses Yard Mytongate
Census Place Kingston-upon-Hull, York, England

Perhaps he wasn't though....

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Deaths Dec 1895 (>99%)

BARRASS Elizabeth Annie 44 Hull 9d 156

According to the 1901 census William is still married.

1901 England Census
about William Barrass
Name: William Barrass
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Stainforth Nr Doncaster

Civil parish: Holy Trinity and St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Humber
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 90
Piece: 4497
Folio: 128
Page Number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
William Barrass 52
Fred Barrass 22
Elizabeth Barrass 27
Ernest Barrass 19

Thank you PricklyHolly and Ozibird. I will go through that information and see if I can find any reason for Eva to be adopted or for her to be living with the Gray family.

All the best

Jane

1901 England Census
Name: Eva Barrass
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Visitor <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Gender: Female
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Frodingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Lawrence
Town: Frodingham
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street Address: 8 North Str

Registration district: Glanford Brigg
Sub-registration district: Winterton

Piece: 3105
Folio: 36
Page Number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
James Gray 43 - Moonstone Quarryman
Alice Marria Gray 42
James Alexander Gray 7
Edith Edwards Gray 2
Eva Barrass 14

1891 England Census
about Eva Barrass
Name: Eva Barrass
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Barrass
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Barrass
Gender: Female
Where born: Hull

Civil parish: Holy Trinity and St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Holy Trinity and St Mary
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Humber
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3934
Folio: 56
Page Number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
William Barrass 41 (Lighterman) Born Staniforth Yorkshire
Elizabeth Barrass 40 Born Hull
Elizabeth Barrass 18
Arthur Barrass 16
Frederick Barrass 12
Ernest Barrass 9
Alfred Barrass 7
Eva Barrass 4

1891 England Census
Name: Eva Barrass
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Barrass
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Barrass
Gender: Female
Where born: Hull
Civil parish: Holy Trinity and St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Holy Trinity and St Mary
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address: 3 Coach & Horses Yard

Occupation:

Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Humber

Piece: 3934
Folio: 56
Page Number: 4

Household Members: Name Age
William Barrass 41 - Lighterman; Stainforth Yorkshire
Elizabeth Barrass 40
Elizabeth Barrass 18
Arthur Barrass 16 - Printer
Frederick Barrass 12 -Errand Boy
Ernest Barrass 9 - Scholar
Alfred Barrass 7 - Scholar
Eva Barrass 4

All others born Hull.

Please can someone look up Eva Barrass on the 1891 census. I do not know who here parents were. She was either Fostered or Adopted into my family at a later date. Sorry I cant find the year she was adopted.

Eva was born abt 1886 in Hull.
She married John Christopher Camm in 1909 (registered in Glanford Brigg)

Thanks for your help

Jane