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Charles Lawrence
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Charles Lawrence
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: 1826
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Lawrence
Gender: Male
Where born: Marden, Herefordshire, England
Civil Parish: St Peter
Ecclesiastical parish: Hereford
Town: Hereford
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Hereford
Sub-registration district: Hereford City
ED, institution, or vessel: 7g
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 234
Piece: 1820
Folio: 51
Page Number: 47
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Lawrence 35 - labourer
Jane Lawrence 26
Mary Ann Lawrence 7
Amelia Lawrence 5
Chas Lawrence 1


????

Marriages Dec 1852 (>99%)
LAWRENCE Charles Hereford 6a 927
MASON Jane Hereford 6a 927

this gets better due to Andrew and ArgyllGran.

Emily J . Laurence
in the 1881 England Census

Name: Emily J . Laurence
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: Charles Laurence
Mother: Jane Laurence
Gender: Female
Where born: St Peters, Hereford, England
Civil Parish: Hereford St Peter
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England
Street address: 4 Bath Street
Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Hereford
ED, institution, or vessel: 7a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2594
Folio: 53
Page Number: 42
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Laurence 54 - shoemaker
Jane Laurence 45
George Laurence 19
Emily J. Laurence 11
Alfred E. Laurence 8
Frank Laurence 5
Francis G. Laurence 5 - grandson

Births Sep 1869 (>99%)
Lawrence Emily Jane Hereford 6a 478


I can't see a birth of any Emily Lawrence in Birmingham 1865-70, with or without middle name.

[ EDIT:
There's an Emily Maria born in Aston, but clearly that's not her:

Births Dec 1867 (>99%)
Lawrence Emily Maria Aston 6d 301 ]

The1891 census is not accurate in other ways - putting the Jones family with a different household, spelling Emily as Emely, etc - so ditto-ing her birthplace as Birmingham, same as her husband, would be an easy additional mistake to make.

As the 1871 census has her birthplace , father's name, and father's occupation correct, I would think that's the right Emily.

I wonder if this is Emily in 1871?

Father Charles is a Shoemaker, but her age is slighty wrong and census says she was born in Birmingham, not Hereford


Name:Emily Jane Lawrence
Age:1
Estimated birth year:abt 1870
Relation:Daughter
Father's name:Charles Lawrence
Mother's name:Jane Lawrence
Gender:Female
Where born:Herefordshire, England
Civil Parish:All Saints
Ecclesiastical parish:Hereford All Saints
County/Island:Herefordshire
Country:England
Registration district:Hereford
Sub-registration district:Hereford City
ED, institution, or vessel:2
Household schedule number:164
Piece:2696
Folio:43
Page Number:29
Household Members:
Name
Age


Charles Lawrence 45
Jane Lawrence 35
Charles Lawrence 12
George Lawrence 9
Thomas Lawrence 6
Noah Lawrence 4
>>> Emily Jane Lawrence 1

Andy

Andy, Brilliant

More detail for George and Emily marriage


Name:Emily Jane Lawrence
Birth Year:abt 1868
Age:19
Spouse Name: George Jones
Spouse Age:28 (20 on image)
Marriage or Bann Date:29 May 1887
Event Type:Marriage
Parish:Coventry, All Saints
Father Name:Charles Lawrence - Shoemaker
Spouse Father Name:James Jones - Gunmaker
Spouse Mother Name:Jones


Andy

yes ArgyllGran and Andy have checked marriage for George and Emily to which was Coventry so. now to ascertain which is the correct death of George.
thank you for I am slowly putting things in place now.

Age doesn't match 1891 census - but maybe ???

Deaths Mar 1900 (>99%)
Jones George 38 Coventry 6d 412


OR

If they had moved to Birmingham before George died, this one fits better with the census re age:

Deaths Jun 1895 (>99%)
Jones George 37 Birmingham 6d 14

Sorry ArgyllGran, didn't your post.

Andy

Brummie46 - did you notice that Andy has posted a likely looking marriage for George & Emily?

I think we've ruled out that family with Sarah Ann, Malyon.

argyllGran I think you have found some connection for I couldn't understand where the young Emily came from for we knew my husbands grandmother (Florence) had a younger sister named Nellie but didn't think this was her correct name, thought possibly could be Helen. So parents could be George and Emily so will see if I can find a marriage for them and also death for George for older Emily remarried in 1901.
thank you so much for your time, its much appreciated.

could this be the death of sarah ann jones in census 1891 same age


Deaths Jun 1892 (>99%)

Jones Sarah Ann 32 Birmingham 6d 69

Census already posted, Andy.

But not the marriage - looks good!

Brummie46 - why do you think Emily Lawrence was the mother?

and maybe marriage?

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1887 (>99%)
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Jones George Coventry 6d 655
Lawrence Emily Jane Coventry 6d 655


Correct maiden name for Emily from original post.



Andy

What about this??


Name:Florence Jones
Age:2
Estimated birth year:abt 1889
Relation:Lodger
Gender:Female
Where born:Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish:St Michael and St John
Ecclesiastical parish:St Michael
Town:Coventry
County/Island:Warwickshire
Country:England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
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Registration district:Coventry
ED, institution, or vessel:13
Neighbors:
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Piece:2449
Folio:146
Page Number:12
Household Members:
Name
Age



George Jones 32
Emely Jones 23
Florence Jones 2
Ellen Jones 2/12

Andy

Possibly the marriage of that George and Emely ???

Marriages Sep 1885 (>99%)
Fisher Mary Elizabeth Aston 6d 404
Jones George Aston 6d 404 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
MORRIS Emily Aston 6d 404 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
SNAPE Charles Henry Aston 6d 404


Or maybe this one:

Marriages Sep 1885 (>99%)
Jones George Birmingham 6d 149 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
LILLEY Thomas Birmingham 6d 149
RILEY Edith Birmingham 6d 149
Tonks Emily Birmingham 6d 149 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

I haven't checked the other names in later censuses.

Another possibility:

On Ancestry, this family is wrongly listed as lodgers in a completely different household.

Florence Jones
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Florence Jones
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: St Michael and St John
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: Coventry
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address: 1 Warwick Lane
Registration district: Coventry
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2449
Folio: 146
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
George Jones 32 - iron polisher (?)
Emely Jones 23
Florence Jones 2
Ellen Jones 2/12 - maybe Emily known as Ellen to distinguish her from her mother ? - though maybe too young to be Emily junior?)


All born Birmingham.
(plus two lodgers)


Which of these births is your Emily?
Births Mar 1890 (>99%)
Jones Emily Aston 6d 360
Jones Emily Maud Aston 6d 283

Births Sep 1890 (>99%)
Jones Emily Aston 6d 256
Jones Emily Aston 6d 384

Births Dec 1890 (>99%)
Jones Emily Aston 6d 377

Just a possibility:

Florence Jones
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Florence Jones
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Relation: Patient
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham
Civil Parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
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Registration district: Birmingham
Sub registration district: Lady Wood
ED, institution, or vessel: Childrens Hospital
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2374
Folio: 137
Page Number: 3