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Peter

Peter Report 9 Sep 2017 20:57

Henry Allen born about 1849 in Upper Gornal Sedgley Staffs died Rotherham 23/01/1908 married a lady called Maria also born Upper Gornal Sedgley Staffs, not sure if they married in Staffs or Rotherham, I cannot find their marriage or Maria's maiden name, any help appreciated.

Andrew

Andrew Report 9 Sep 2017 21:04

1901 census for ref

Name: Henry Allen
Age: 51
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Maria Allen
Birth Place: Gornal, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Rotherham
Search Photos: Search for 'Rotherham' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: Rotherham All Saints
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Rotherham
Sub-registration district: South East Rotherham
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4393
Folio: 126
Page Number: 8
Household schedule number: 62
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Allen 51
Maria Allen 52
Samuel Allen 21
Rachel Allen 18
David Allen 15
Ellen Allen 11
William H Hobson 20
Edith Kirk 16


Andy

Andrew

Andrew Report 9 Sep 2017 21:08

Birth of children for mother maiden name

ALLEN, RACHAEL ELLEN THOMAS Order
GRO Reference: 1883 J Quarter in ROTHERHAM Volume 09C Page 668





ALLEN, DAVID THOMAS Order
GRO Reference: 1886 J Quarter in ROTHERHAM Volume 09C Page 621


Andy

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 9 Sep 2017 21:08

A public Family Tree has Henry married to Ann Maria Stevens .......... needing proof


1881 Census

Name: Henry Allen
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Maria Allen
Gender: Male
Where born: Sedgeley, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Kimberworth
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: 46 Oates St
Marital Status: Married

Occupation: Bricklayer
Registration district: Rotherham
ED, institution, or vessel: 6

Piece: 4675
Folio: 108
Page Number: 9

Henry Allen 32
Maria Allen 33 b.ca 1848, Sedgeley
Henry Allen 5
Eli Allen 3
Samuel Allen 1
Samuel Allen 18 Brother
John Allen 15 Brother

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MargaretM

MargaretM Report 9 Sep 2017 21:10

The family in 1901?

Henry Allen
in the 1901 England Census
Henry Allen
Age:
51
Estimated birth year:
abt 1850
Relation to Head:
Head
Gender:
Male
Spouse:
Maria Allen
Birth Place:
Gornal, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish:
Rotherham
Ecclesiastical parish:
Rotherham All Saints
County/Island:
Yorkshire
Country:
England

Household Members:
Henry Allen 51
Maria Allen 52
Samuel Allen 21
Rachel Allen 18
David Allen 15
Ellen Allen 11
William H Hobson 20 , nephew
Edith Kirk 16 , servant





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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 9 Sep 2017 21:11

Eli's birth registration

ALLEN, ELI mmn THOMAS
GRO Reference: 1878 M Quarter in ROTHERHAM Volume 09C Page 652

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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 9 Sep 2017 21:14

can't find a marriage

It looks as if that tree is wrong ........ as they so often are :-D



???? did they not marry??

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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 9 Sep 2017 21:16

??????????????

Marriages Jun 1870 (>99%)
Allin Henry Sheffield 9c 318
THOMAS Maria Sheffield 9c 318

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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 9 Sep 2017 21:20

YES ..... that looks like the marriage :-D


1871 Census

Name: Henry Allen
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation: Brother
Gender: Male
Where born: Dudley, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Attercliffe cum Darnall
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Attercliffe
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Sheffield
Sub-registration district: Attercliffe
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 141
Piece: 4698
Folio: 150
Page Number: 28

Thomas Allen 24
Triphema Allen 20
Eli Allen 11 Months
Henry Allen 22 Bricklayer
Maria Allen 22 b.ca 1849, Dudley, Sister-in-law
John Allen 1 b.ca 1870, Dudley, Nephew

Address:- 25 Charles Street

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Abby

Abby Report 9 Sep 2017 21:21


Yorkshire Marriages Transcription
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First name(s) Maria
Last name Thomas
Age 21
Birth year 1849
Residence Brightside Lane
Marriage year 1870
Marriage date 05 Jun 1870
Marriage place Sheffield, St Thomas, Brightside
Spouse's first name(s) Henry
Spouse's last name Allin
Spouse's age 21
Spouse's residence Brightside
Father's first name(s) Joseph
Father's last name Thomas
Spouse's father's first name(s) John
Spouse's father's last name Allin
County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Country England
Archive Sheffield Archives & Local Studies
Archive reference PR-46-2-2
Page 123
Record set Yorkshire Marriages

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Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.

Andrew

Andrew Report 9 Sep 2017 21:25

That looks good Sylvia

There are these two births, MMN Thomas and their deats to explain gap between marriage and first surviving child (Henry)


Births Mar 1874 (>99%)
ALLEN Sarah Ann Sheffield 9c 566

Births Dec 1871 (>99%)
Allen Elizabeth Sheffield 9c 478


Andy

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 9 Sep 2017 21:39

??????????

Is this little John's death ............ age is about right.

ALLEN, JOHN THOMAS 3
GRO Reference: 1872 D Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 291

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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 9 Sep 2017 21:46

I can't help thinking that John was born before they got married ................ but I can't find his birth registration!

Researching:
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Andrew

Andrew Report 9 Sep 2017 21:53

Heres marriage

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1870 (>99%)
Allen Thomas Sheffield 9c 293
Mills Tryphena Sheffield 9c 293

Andy

Andrew

Andrew Report 9 Sep 2017 21:56

??????????????


Results:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
ALLEN, ELI MILLS Order
GRO Reference: 1870 J Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 496

Andy

Abby

Abby Report 9 Sep 2017 21:58


Yorkshire Marriages Transcription
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First name(s) Thomas
Last name Allen
Age 23
Birth year 1847
Residence Gower ST
Marriage year 1870
Marriage date 28 Feb 1870
Marriage place Sheffield, St Thomas, Brightside
Spouse's first name(s) Tryphena
Spouse's last name Mills
Spouse's age 20
Spouse's residence Gower St
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Allen
Spouse's father's first name(s) Daniel
Spouse's father's last name Mills
County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Country England
Archive Sheffield Archives & Local Studies
Archive reference PR-46-2-2
Page 111
Record set Yorkshire Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain

Transcription © Findmypast

Researching:
Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.