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James Grigson 1881 Census??

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Marcus

Marcus Report 19 Jan 2018 19:06

Am looking for James Grigson / Gregson born c1825 in Camden Town / St. Pancras area of London.

Just cannot find him in 1881.
He married Jane Willington in 1852 at St. Leonard, Shoreditch.

I have them on 1861 & 71, but in 1891 & 1901 James is a widower.

Can anybody please help me here??

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Jan 2018 19:17

Name: Jane Grigson
[Jane Willington]
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Registration Year: 1873
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 57
Registration district: Islington

greyghost

greyghost Report 19 Jan 2018 19:20

For info - ? your family

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Caledonian Road, Islington, London & Middlesex, England

Birth place First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation
Middlesex, England James Grigson Head - Male 45 1826 -
Middlesex, England Jane Grigson Wife - Female 47 1824 -
Middlesex, England Thomas J Grigson Son - Male 17 1854

James is a Railway Ticket Printer and Thomas an Accountants Clerk.
All b Pancras

Marcus

Marcus Report 19 Jan 2018 19:24

Thanks Greyghost, that's them!

Thanks ErikaH. The birth year is a bit out! Might be a transcription error ?

greyghost

greyghost Report 19 Jan 2018 19:24

Not with son Thomas

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Orford Road, Walthamstow, West Ham, London & Essex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Thomas J Grigson Head Married Male 28 1853 St Pancras, Middlesex, England Bank Accountant
Mary Ann Grigson Wife Married Female 26 1855 Yorkshire, England -
Harry V Grigson Son Single Male 4 1877 South Hackney, Middlesex, England -
Mary A Baker Servant Single Female 16 1865 Hackney, Middlesex, England Domestic Servant

greyghost

greyghost Report 19 Jan 2018 19:26

Also a daughter Alice - have you tracked her?

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
16, Essex Street, St Clement Danes, Strand, London & Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Grigson Head Married Male 35 1826 Compositor Camden Town, Middlesex, England
Jane Grigson Wife Married Female 37 1824 - Middlesex, England
Thomas J Grigson Son - Male 7 1854 Scholar Middlesex, England
Alice J Grigson Daughter - Female 5 1856 Scholar Middlesex, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Jan 2018 19:28

From findmypast

Piece number 693 is missing from the 1881 census: house numbers 17-22 Cunard Street, Camberwell, London.

Part of house number 16 could be missing too if the house contained more children, a boarder or a visitor.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Jan 2018 19:28

Alice died in 1861

Marcus

Marcus Report 19 Jan 2018 19:30

Alice died June quarter, 1861.

greyghost

greyghost Report 19 Jan 2018 19:30

I guess not !

England & Wales Non-conformist burials Transcription

First name(s) Alice Jane
Last name Grigson
Age 5
Birth year 1856
Death year 1861
Death date ? ? 1861
Burial year 1861
Burial date 12 May 1861
Place Hackney, Victoria Park Cemetery
Burial place as transcribed London
Denomination -
County Middlesex
Country England
The National Archives reference TNA/RG/8/45
Description Hackney, Victoria Park Cemetery: Burials. Vol 4 Indexed
Record set England & Wales Non-Conformist Burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Record

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England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
Print transcription View image
First name(s) ALICE JANE
Last name GRIGSON
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year -
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1861
District Strand
County London
Volume 1B
Page 288

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Jan 2018 19:30

Name: Jane Willington
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1817
Relation: Sister-in-law
Gender: Female
Where born: Grays Inn, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Shoreditch
Ecclesiastical parish: Haggerstone West
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Haggerstone West
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 85
Piece: 1537
Folio: 523
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas W Grigson 52
Phoebe Grigson 39
James Grigson 26
Samuel Grigson 13
John W Grigson 11
Jane W Grigson 9
Phoebe W Grigson 7
Joshua W Grigson 5
Caroline W Grigson 2
Martha W Grigson 2 Mo
Jane Willington 34
Thomas Willington 80
Jane Willington 70



Name: Jane Willington
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 20 Nov 1814
Baptism Date: 16 Apr 1815
Baptism Place: Providence Chapel Tichfield Street and Grays Inn Lst Marylebonet,St Marylebone,London,England
Father: Thomas Willington
Mother: Jane

greyghost

greyghost Report 19 Jan 2018 19:37

Just because it came up whilst looking around - were the Grigsons and Willingtons already related?


Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
GRIGSON, JANE WILLINGTON WILLINGTON Order
GRO Reference: 1841 D Quarter in SAINT PANCRAS Volume 01 Page 271 Order

EDIT - guess so as ErikaH has posted above census!

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Jan 2018 19:44

Name: Jane Willuyter
[Jane Willington]
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
[1814]
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Pancras
Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
View image
Registration district: St Pancras
Sub-registration district: Kentish Town
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 683
Book: 6
Folio: 10
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Willuyter 65
Jane Willuyter 55
Jane Willuyter 20
Sarah Willuyter 18
Joseph Willuyter 17

Marcus

Marcus Report 19 Jan 2018 19:45

I think they are related somehow. I am slowly untangling this wonderful complexity !!

The marriage entry (On Ancestry) states James was 27, Jane as 29. Definitely 27 & 29 NOT 37 or 39. .

Now, either she IS 29 years of age at her wedding, OR she is lying and is actually 39, which ties in with above post by ErikaH !!

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Jan 2018 19:45

Name: Phoebe Willington
Gender: Female
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 5 Jan 1836
Marriage Place: St Mary, Islington, Islington, England
Spouse: Thomas William Grigson
Register Type: Parish Register

Witnesses: Thomas Willington, Snr and Jane Willington

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Jan 2018 19:48

Name: Phebe Willington
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 11 Oct 1810
Baptism Date: 1 Aug 1811
Baptism Place: Providence Chapel Tichfield Street and Grays Inn Lst Marylebonet,St Marylebone,London,England
Father: Thomas Willington
Mother: Jane

Marcus

Marcus Report 19 Jan 2018 20:01

Thanks ErikaH.