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Another Richards mystery

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helina

helina Report 16 Oct 2018 13:38

George Richards born about 1829 Castle Precincts Bristol, married to Eliza Lewis. They had a daughter Eliza born 1848 Bristol, on the 1851 census the small family are living/staying with a family called Lewis at 37, St Pauls Street North, Cheltenham were their second daughter Emily was born in 1851.


The Lewis family consisted of

Henry Lewis born 1828 Bristol
Mary (maiden name Cook) born 1825 Hatherley Cheltenham
Mary born 1851 Cheltenham

Both families were cordwainers

Now is there a connection between the 2 families? between Henry Lewis and Eliza Lewis wife of George.
I did obtain a marriage certificate for Henry and Mary, Henry's father was called Henry Lewis another Shoemaker. Eliza's father was called George Lewis, you can guess what his occupation was. Eliza's mother was called Elizabeth Gordon.

As yet I have not been able to find a connection but maybe one day unless somebody discovers the relationship if any.

Any help would be appreciated

helina


Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Oct 2018 14:01

there is this henry with father henry a shoemaker in 1841

Park Street, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England
Henry Lewis Male 30 1811 Gloucestershire, England
Sarah Lewis Female 30 1811 Gloucestershire, England
Henry Lewis Male 13 1828 Gloucestershire, England
George Lewis Male 11 1830 Gloucestershire, England
William Lewis Male 7 1834 Gloucestershire, England
Emma Lewis Female 4 1837 Gloucestershire, England
Elizabeth Lewis Female 2 1839 Gloucestershire, England
Thomas Lewis Male 0 1841 Gloucestershire, England

Henry
Last name Lewis
Name note -
Marriage year 1825
Marriage date 10 Jan 1825
Marriage place Bristol
Spouse's first name(s) Sarah
Spouse's last name Bowden
Residence Bristol, Gloucester, England
County Gloucestershire
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973

1851
4, Knap Place, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England
Henry Lewis Head Married Male 44 1807 Shoe Maker Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Sarah Lewis Wife Married Female 44 1807 - United States
Emma Lewis Daughter - Female 14 1837 - Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England
Elizabeth Lewis Daughter - Female 12 1839 - Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England
Thomas Lewis Son - Male 9 1842 Scholar Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England
James Lewis Son - Male 7 1844 Scholar Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England
Charles Lewis Son - Male 3 1848 Scholar Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England
Frederick Lewis Son - Male 0 1851 - Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England

LEWIS, FREDERICK BOWDEN Order
GRO Reference: 1851 M Quarter in THE CHELTENHAM UNION Volume 11 Page 219


son
1851
37, St Pauls Street North, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England
Henry Lewis Head Married Male 23 1828 Cordwainer Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Mary Lewis Wife Married Female 26 1825 Cordwainer Binder Hatherley, Gloucestershire, England
Mary Lewis Daughter Unmarried Female 0 1851 - Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England
George Richards Lodger Married Male 23 1828 Cordwainer Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Eliza Richards Wife Married Female 23 1828 Binder Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Eliza Richards Daughter Unmarried Female 3 1848 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Oct 2018 14:46

Eliza
Last name Richards
Gender Female
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1848
Baptism date 16 Apr 1848
Baptism age 21d
Residence Bristol, Gloucester, England
Place Bristol
County Gloucestershire
Country England
Father's first name(s) George
Father's last name Richards
Mother's first name(s) Eliza
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975

RICHARDS, ELIZA LEWIS Order
GRO Reference: 1848 J Quarter in THE CLIFTON UNION Volume 11 Page 297

George Richards
Spouse's Name Eliza Lewis
Event Date 24 Dec 1846
Event Place Bedminster, Somerset, England
Father's Name Philemon Richards
Spouse's Father's Name George Lewis
Citing this Record

"England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch

Eliza
Last name Lewis
Gender Female
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1827
Baptism date 02 Sep 1827
Residence Bristol, Gloucester, England
Place Bristol
County Gloucestershire
Country England
Father's first name(s) George
Father's last name Lewis
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975

???????????
Henry
Last name Lewis
Gender Male
Birth year 1813
Birth place Christ, Bristol, Gloucester, England
Baptism year 1814
Baptism date 26 Sep 1814
Residence Bristol, Gloucester, England
Place Bristol
County Gloucestershire
Country England
Father's first name(s) George
Father's last name Lewis
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records

George Henry
Last name Lewis
Gender Male
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1808
Baptism date 18 Feb 1808
Residence Bristol, Gloucester, England
Place Bristol
County Gloucestershire
Country England
Father's first name(s) George
Father's last name Lewis
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain

George
Last name Lewis
Sex Male
Marriage year 1804
Marriage date 12 May 1804
Denomination Anglican
Place Bristol, St Paul, Portland Square
Town Bristol
County Gloucestershire
Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth
Spouse's last name Rees
Spouse's residence St Paul, Bristol
By licence or by banns Banns
First witness Mary Machin
Second witness John Stone
Country England
Document type Bishop's transcripts
Archive Bristol Archives

helina

helina Report 16 Oct 2018 16:02

Just been onto familysearch and there are a whole list of baptisms for a George Lewis from 1792-1808 baptised in the Bristol area. How does one know who is the correct George? See a George Henry was baptised in 1808.
helina

helina

helina Report 16 Oct 2018 16:05

Name:
Eliza Lewis
Gender:
Female
Baptism Date:
2 Sep 1827
Baptism Place:
Bristol, Gloucester, England
Father:
George Lewis
Mother:
Elizabeth Lewis
FHL Film Number:
1596678

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Oct 2018 16:23

if the 1841 census is correct george and henry were brothers

helina

helina Report 18 Oct 2018 06:26

Yes, see according to the 1841 census Henry and George were brothers, one born 1838 the other 1830, but its George Richards's wife Eliza Lewis connection I am looking for. Eliza was born about 1827, there is a Elizabeth on the 1841 census born about 1839. But cannot find Eliza in 1841 if that is the correct family she was not living at home.
helina

helina

helina Report 18 Oct 2018 07:14

One reason why the George Lewis born 1792 may be my George Lewis was he was born/baptised in the Castle Precincts , Bristol area which is where the Richards lived.

helinia

helina

helina Report 18 Oct 2018 07:31

Made one mistake after rechecking George and Eliza's marriage certificate see the Eliza's father was a Wheelwright not a cordwainer.

helina

Maddie

Maddie Report 18 Oct 2018 15:31

grasping at straws now

???????
Elizabeth
Last name Gordon
Gender Female
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1805
Baptism date 05 Aug 1805
Baptism age 9y
Residence Bristol, Gloucester, England
Place Bristol
County Gloucestershire
Country England
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Gordon
Mother's first name(s) Priscilla
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975

George
Last name Lewis
Gender Male
Birth year 1792 -----------------
Birth place -
Baptism year 1806
Baptism date 03 Aug 1806
Residence Bristol, Gloucester, England
Place Bristol
County Gloucestershire
Country England
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Father's last name Lewis
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975

a maybe

Name: George Lewis
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796
Gender: Male
Where born: Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: St Peter
Hundred: Bristol City
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Bristol
Sub-registration district: Castle Precincts
Neighbors:
Piece: 374
Book: 8
Folio: 18
Page Number: 31
Household Members:
Name Age
George Lewis 45
Elizabeth Lewis 40