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Pickering, Roche, Glass

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greyghost

greyghost Report 11 May 2019 13:48

That Ancestry tree appears to show the son's birth was registered under a different surname 1940 Q4 Hackney but with Pickering as the MMN.

What would appear possibly to be his own tree gives her birth date as 21.6.1902 Durham and death 10.9.1883 London

greyghost

greyghost Report 11 May 2019 13:16

Saw this one earlier - IF she was out by a year then in the same area as son born??

Mary A Pickering's life in 1939
14 Tilia Road, Hackney, London, England

Pickering household
(1 person)
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Mary A Pickering 21 Jun 1901 Female Domestic Service Single 125 1
Ref: RG101/0184C/008/39 Letter Code: AICV

Flip

Flip Report 11 May 2019 13:13

A tree on ancestry has Mary's birth date 20/6/1902, and also has this death for her:

Mary Ann Pickering
Death Age: 91
Birth Date: 21 Jun 1902
Registration Date: Sep 1993
Registration district: Westminster
Inferred County: Greater London
Register Number: C38C
District and Subdistrict: 2581C
Entry Number: 24

Not sure how accurate it is though.

greyghost

greyghost Report 11 May 2019 12:36

Do you know Mary Ann's actual birth date in case she can be tracked on the 1939 register or from her death ?

greyghost

greyghost Report 11 May 2019 12:32


1911 Census For England & Wales
Bore Hole Penshaw, Painshaw, Durham, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Pickering Head Married Male 62 1849 Farm Labourer Agricultural County Durham N K
Thomas Pickering Son - Male 16 1895 None Thurton Durham
Susannah Pickering Wife Married Female 37 1874 - Hetton Le Hole Durham
Florence Pickering Daughter - Female 13 1898 School E Rainton Durham
May Pickering Daughter - Female 11 1900 School Houghton Durham
Mary Ann Pickering Daughter - Female 8 1903 School Coxgreen Durham
Isabella Pickering Daughter - Female 5 1906 - Penshaw Durham
Jane Pickering Daughter - Female 3 1908 - Penshaw Durham
William Hardy Boarder Widower Male 65 1846 Agricultural Labourer Chester Le Street Durham

Married 18 years - 7 children born, 1 has died

Adelaide would appear to be May on the census form?
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
PICKERING, ADELAIDE MAY THOMPSON
GRO Reference: 1899 D Quarter in HOUGHTON-LE-SPRING Volume 10A Page 502

Maddie

Maddie Report 11 May 2019 12:25

????
Name: Mary A Roche
Registration Date: Apr 1918
[May 1918]
[Jun 1918]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: West Derby
Inferred County: Lancashire
Mother's Maiden Name: Jones
Volume Number: 8b
Page Number: 802

Francis Thomas A Glass
Death Age: 54
Birth Date: 10 Mar 1915
Registration Date: Oct 1969
[Nov 1969]
[Dec 1969]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Liverpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10d
Page: 358

greyghost

greyghost Report 11 May 2019 12:24

Mary Ann's birth that you refer to

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
PICKERING, MARY ANN THOMPSON
GRO Reference: 1902 S Quarter in HOUGHTON-LE-SPRING Volume 10A Page 530

Rambling

Rambling Report 11 May 2019 11:58

There is a Frank Glass on erolls for Durham in the 1920s with wife Mabel?

That seems to be this one,

1911 Census For England & Wales
45 Greensfield Terrace G Head, Gateshead, Durham, England


James Glass Head Married Male 51 1860 Railway Engine Driver Durham Gateshead
Mary Ann Glass Wife Married Female 49 1862 - Durham Gateshead
Francis Glass Son Single Male 26 1885 General Labourer Durham Gateshead <<<<<<
Elizabeth Glass Daughter Single Female 23 1888 Housemaid Durham Gateshead
Oliver Glass Son Single Male 21 1890 Iron Moulder Durham Gateshead
Margaret Glass Daughter Single Female 19 1892 Lining Leather Trunks Durham Gateshead
Emily Jane Glass Daughter Single Female 15 1896 Housemaid Durham Gateshead
James Glass Son - Male 13 1898 School Northumberland Alnmouth
Mary Ann Glass Daughter - Female 11 1900 School Durham Gateshead
Ethel Glass Daughter - Female 9 1902 - Durham Gateshead
Lily Florence Glass Daughter - Female 4 1907 - Durham Gateshead

Kayak

Kayak Report 11 May 2019 11:54

Possible death:

Deaths Dec 1969
GLASS Francis Thomas A birth date 10Mr1915 Liverpool 10d 358

Probate:
Glass Francis Thomas ALEXANDER,<<<<<<<<<<<
OF 39 Frampton Road Liverpool 4 died 9th Dec 1969 Administration Liverpool 29th Dec 1969

<<<<< but name Alexander not ALBERT

Rambling

Rambling Report 11 May 2019 11:40

?
1939 register

Roche household

Thomas Roche 06 Jul 1892 Male Maintainance Engineer Married 145 1
Mary Roche (Glass) 20 Sep 1894 Female Unpaid Domestic Married 145 2
Mary Glass 17 Apr 1918 Female Printers Feeder Single 145 3
Elizabeth Glass 27 Apr 1919 Female - - 145 4

rather confusing on the image as it has been somewhat overwritten, but it appears that it is the daughter Mary who married Glass in 1940 , the two girls were mmn Jones,

Births Jun 1918 (>99%)
Roche Mary A Jones W.Derby 8b 802

Lynn

Lynn Report 11 May 2019 11:24

Wonder if anyone can help.

My dad was adopted, but I know his biological mother was a Mary Ann Pickering, born Durham 1902, parents Thomas Pickering and Susannah Thompson.

Dad was born in hackneyed in a mother and baby home. On her admission papers Mary names his father as Frank Glass. She says Frank has gone to India.. Another person named is Adelaide Miller, Mary's sister.

It has been suggested that Frank may be Francis Thomas Albert Glass born 1915. He appears to have connections to India, so that fits. I'm 1940 he appears to marry Mary Ann Roache in Liverpool.

I have not been able to find out what happened to Mary Ann Pickering, so I was wondering if Mary Ann Pickering and Roache could be the same person, but I can find no evidence to prove or disprove this. Can anyone help?

Thank you