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Pehr Leverentz./Leverence

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Phyllis

Phyllis Report 4 Jul 2019 08:09

I am hoping to contact any descendants of Pehr and Lucy Leverentz/Leverence. I believe one of the the grandsons emigrated to Kalgoorlie. Western Australia. My great grandfather was Pehr Leverentz born in Sweden.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Jul 2019 09:44

Phyllis, beside yourself, 2 other people have a Pehr Leverentz listed in their trees. Have you sent them a message?

Tina has 2 people of that name, 1834, Sweden & 1881, London - father & son?
Rachel lists only the younger man. Rachel's account was opened more recently than Tina's.

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/messages/7865783/discover?rk=346819588
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/messages/11826017/discover?rk=528154543

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Jul 2019 09:53

What research have you done yourself? Do you know the name of the son who went to Australia? It's always possible that he further anglicised the spell of his names.

For our benefit, are these your ancestors? - 1881 England Census
Pehr Leverentz
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Lucy Leverentz
Gender: Male
Where born: (F), Sweden
Civil Parish: St James
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 6 Marshall St
Marital status: Married
Education:

Employment status:

Occupation: Tailor
Registration district: Westminster
Sub registration district: Golden Square
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 123
Folio: 68
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Pehr Leverentz 42
Lucy Leverentz 36
Cailsa Leverentz 14
Lucy Leverentz 12
Anna Leverentz 11
Minnie Leverentz 9
Emily Leverentz 7
Martha Leverentz 6
Osker Leverentz 4
Sarah Leverentz 3

An alternative family could be the one featured in this marriage
Name: Edmund Leverentz
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1882
Marriage Date: 6 May 1903
Marriage Place: St John the Evangelist, Charlotte Street, Camden, England
Father: Pehr Leverentz - occupation Sailor
Spouse: Ethel Howes

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Jul 2019 11:52

There were Leverences on Kalgoorlie Electoral Rolls in the 1970's and 1980.

And by Googling "Leverence, Kalgoorlie" there are more recent mentions of Leverences in Kalgoorlie.

Unfortunately the Australian White Pages isn't letting me access their website:
https://www.whitepages.com.au/residential

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Jul 2019 13:38

http://ryersonindex.org/search.php Has 3 entries for the surname published in a WA paper. Considering the 2006 dates of publication, it could be for the same death.

The Western Australian Ask a Librarian Service should be able to send you a copies of the text.

https://slwa.wa.gov.au/contact-us

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Jul 2019 13:58

Deaths:

LEVERENCE , Dave. Husband of Pat . 11 March 1984 . Aged 81 years
LEVERENCE , Matilda. Mother of Pat, Ted, Dot, Les, Mick (dec) and Linda . 9 April 2006 . Aged 91 years
http://www.ozburials.com/CemsWA/Kalgoorlie/boulder_l.htm


Burial:
LEVERENCE Edward William David 81 13/Mar/1984 Anglican
http://www.outbackfamilyhistory.com.au/records/record.php?record_id=882

and also on that site, presumably a mistranscription:

LEVERETT Matilda 91 09/Apr/2006 Anglican


LEVERENCE, Matilda (Pat)
10-03-1915 – 09-04-2006
Burial: 18-04-2006
Funeral Director: Espernace Funeral Service
Service held in Star of the Sea Catholic Church.
Inscription: ‘In Loving Memory of Matilda (Pat) 91 years Loved wife of Dave. Loving mother of Pat, Ted, Dot, Les, Mick and Linda. Loved grandmother of 18. loved great-grandmother of 28 ~Our Mum~ Rest peacefully with dad & Mick’
http://www.australiancemeteries.com.au/wa/esperance/esperancedatal.htm

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 5 Jul 2019 11:31

Probable Birth for Edward William David Leverence, Australian burial found by ArgyllGran

LEVERENTZ, EDWARD WILLIAM DAVID (mothers maiden name) HOWES
GRO Reference: 1903 J Quarter in ST. PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 44

Either it was a shotgun wedding if his parents were Edmund Leverentz & Ethel Howes, or he was the son of a different Leverentz/Howes couple.

Siblings?
LEVERENTZ, HARRY EDMUND mmn HOWES
GRO Reference: 1907 M Quarter in ST MARYLEBONE Volume 01A Page 498

LEVERENTZ, SYDNEY mmn HOWES
GRO Reference: 1912 J Quarter in WESTMINSTER Volume 01A Page 827

LEVERENTZ, THOMAS EDMUND mmn HOWES
GRO Reference: 1915 D Quarter in SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 213


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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 5 Jul 2019 11:36

PM sent to Phyllis asking for feedback.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 5 Jul 2019 12:02

Plenty of other records relating to the Leverentz/Howes family, who seemed to have fallen on to hard times.

For instance, Edward W D's marriage in WA

Leverence Edward W D Male
Nazzari Matilda Female
Wellington
Reg no 56
Year 1936

However, rather than spend time disappearing down the 'wrong' rabbit hole, it might be better to wait to hear from Phyllis.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 6 Jul 2019 09:59

Message opened yesterday. Let’s hope that the OP has the time & is able to respond.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Jul 2019 11:04

Just in case that family is correct, and just because I came across it;

Another sibling:

LEVERENTZ, ALBERT THOMAS ms HOWES
GRO Reference: 1905 M Quarter in WESTMINSTER Volume 01A Page 497


Albert Thomas Leverentz
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917
Name: Albert Thomas Leverentz
Gender: Male
Record Type: Birth
Birth Date: 24 Dec 1905
Birth Poor Law Union: Westminster
Birth Place: Westminster, Westminster, England
Mother: Alice Ethel Leverentz
Register Type: Parish RegistersAnd here are Edward and Albert in 1911, with ages a couple of years out:


[Note: Ethel Howes is Alice Ethel - see also later posts.]


Edward Leverence
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Edward Leverence
Age in 1911: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1901
Relation to Head: Boarded Out Children <<<<<<<<<
Gender: Male
Birth Place: London, England
Civil Parish: Heacham
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street address: 2 Bolivia Terrace, Phoenix House, Caley Street, Heacham, Norfolk
Registration district: Docking
Registration District Number: 234
Sub-registration district: Snettisham
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 107
Piece: 11606
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert James Jackson 36
Emily Louisa Jackson 33
Priscilla Jackson 30
Ethel Lilian Jackson 10
Charles Jackson 6
Edward Leverence 10
Albert Leverence 8 - London, boarded out child

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Jul 2019 11:30

Sorry - I'm hooked.
Will delete if it turns out to be the wrong family!

Looks like Edmund and son Thomas E in 1939.
New wife for Edmund ?? Can't see a marriage.

Ernest and Ethel have been listed first as Leverentz, then changed to Wright. Deed poll ?

Births Sep 1921 (>99%)
Leverentz Ernest W (mms Howes) Southwark 1d 148

Births Sep 1923 (>99%)
Leverentz Ethel R L (mms Howes) Southwark 1d 138

Ethel (as Wright ) married a Marsden in 1974.

Edmund Leverentr
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Edmund Leverentr
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 1 Aug 1880
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 30 Elsted Str.
Residence Place: Southwark, London, England
Occupation: General Labourer
Schedule Number: 55
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: AUKL
Registration district: 20/2
Inferred Spouse: Alice E Leverentr
Inferred Children: Thomas E Leverentr
Ernest W Leverentr
Ethel R L Leverentr
Household Members:
Name
Edmund Leverentr
Alice E Leverentr - 18 Aug 1880
Thomas E Leverentr - 3 Nov 1915 - single
Ernest W Leverentr [Wright ] - 6 June 1921 - single
Ethel R L Leverentr [ Wright] - 17 June 1923 - single





Deaths Dec 1940 (>99%)
Leverentz Alice E 58 Southwark 1d 78


Ethel Rosita L Marsden
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Ethel Rosita L Marsden
Death Age: 64
Birth Date: 11 Jun 1923
Registration Date: Aug 1987
Registration district: Bromley
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 11
Page: 896

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Jul 2019 11:50

I suspect that Edmund is this son of Pehr and Lucy:

Births Sep 1881 (>99%)
Leverentz Pehr Edmond G Westminster 1a 490

Pher Edmund Gustave Leverentz
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Pher Edmund Gustave Leverentz
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 21 Mar 1888
Baptism Place: St. Luke's Church, Westminster, Middlesex, England
Father: Pher Leverentz
Mother: :Lucy
FHL Film Number: 1468963



Pehr Edmund Gustave Leverentz
in the Web: UK, Burial and Cremation Index, 1576-2014
Name: Pehr Edmund Gustave Leverentz
Register Type: Cremation
Death Date: 21 Feb 1955
Burial or Cremation Date: 28 Feb 1955
Burial or Cremation Place: Southwark, London, England


??
Peter E G Leverentz
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Peter E G Leverentz
Death Age: 73
Birth Date: abt 1882
Registration Date: Jan 1955
[Feb 1955]
[Mar 1955]
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Lambeth
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5c
Page: 1490


Pehr Edmund Gustave Leverentz
in the Web: UK, Burial and Cremation Index, 1576-2014
Name: Pehr Edmund Gustave Leverentz
Register Type: Cremation
Death Date: 21 Feb 1955
Burial or Cremation Date: 28 Feb 1955
Burial or Cremation Place: Southwark, London, England



Peter Leverentz
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Peter Leverentz
Gender: Male
Age: 9
Relationship: Son
Birth Year: 1882
Father: Peter Leverentz
Birth Place: St James, London, England
Civil Parish: St James Westminster
Residence Place: Westminster, St James Westminster, London, England
Sub registration district: St James Westminster
ED, Institution or Vessel: 16
Neighbors:
Piece: 87
Folio: 70
Household Members:
Name Age
Peter Leverentz 54
Chrithera Leverentz 21
Emily Leverentz 17
Martha Leverentz 16
Oscar Leverentz 14
Sarah Leverentz 13
Peter Leverentz 9
Thomas Leverentz 5
Rose Leverentz 3



Edmund was in and out of the workhouse - various workhouse records
So was son Albert (haven't checked for other family members) - 1905, 1906, 1907


1911:

Edmund Leverentz
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Edmund Leverentz
Age in 1911: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Relation to Head: Inmate
Gender: Male
Birth Place: St James
Civil Parish: St Anne within the Liberty of Westminster
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: Westminster Union Workhouse, 49 Poland St, Oxford St W
Marital status: Married
Years Married: 8
Estimated Marriage Year: 1903
Occupation: COOPER
Registration district: Westminster
Registration District Number: 6
Sub-registration district: St James and St Anne
ED, institution, or vessel: 20-23
Piece: 514
Household Members:
Name Age
Edmund Leverentz 32
Alice Leverentz 31


Looks as if Ethel Howes was really Alice Ethel Howes.

Births Sep 1880 (>99%)
Howes Alice Ethel Fulham 1a 248


She was a casualty of WW2. Death registration record already posted.

Here's the Civilian Death record:

Alice Ethel Leverentz
in the UK, WWII Civilian Deaths, 1939-1945
Name: Alice Ethel Leverentz
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Death Date: 15 Oct 1940
Death Place: Southwark, London, England
Age at Death: 58
Spouse: Edmund Leverentz

Alice Ethel Leverentz, age 58; of 30 Elsted Street. Wife of Edmund Leverentz.
15 October 1940, at Flint Street Shelter.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Jul 2019 12:07

Edward William David (Edmund's son, and the man who is buried in Kalgoorlie) going to Australia

Mr E W D Leverentz
in the UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Mr E W D Leverentz
Gender: Male
Age: 19
Birth Date: abt 1903
Departure Date: 27 May 1922
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Fremantle, Australia
Ship Name: Orvieto
Shipping Line: Orient Line
Official Number: 129628
Master: W S Shelford

Address in UK:
Church Army Training Farm, Hempstead Hall, near Saffron Walden.

Occupation: Farm hand.



Re Church Army:
http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/CA/
The Church Army's Social Department aimed to "raise the hopeless outcasts of society"



ADDED

Mr E W D Leverentz
in the Fremantle, Western Australia, Passenger Lists, 1897-1963
Name: Mr E W D Leverentz
Departure Place: London, United Kingdom
Arrival Date: 29 Jun 1922
Arrival Place: Fremantle, Western Australia, Australia
Vessel: Orvieto

Address in Australia: c/o Immigration Office, Perth, WA

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Jul 2019 18:25

Edward William J Leverentz
in the Australia, World War II Military Service Records, 1939-1945
Name: Edward William J Leverentz
Birth Date: 25 May 1903
Birth Place: London England
Year Range: 1939 - 1948
Enlistment Place: Kalgoorlie Western Australia
Service Number: W72432
Next of Kin: Edward Leverentz
Series Description: B884: Army Citizen Military Forces



Edward William David Leverentz
in the UK, Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services, 1848-1939
Name: Edward William David Leverentz
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 25 May 1903
Birth Place: St Pancras, London
First Service Date: 5 Dec 1918
First Ship Served On: Ganges II
Last Service Date: 30 Nov 1921
Last Ship Served On: Pembroke I
Service Number: J94005

On joining, he was 4' 9", with a 30 in chest.
At age 18 he was 5' 5.5", with a 34" chest.
Brown hair, blue eyes, Fresh complexion.
White ensign on left wrist.

Reason for discharge: Invalided (CSOM)


As a child, Edward was also in and out of London workhouses, along with Edmund, Alice Ethel, and Albert Thomas.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Jul 2019 11:59

Another thread posted now................

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1378566

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 20 Jul 2019 08:28

Dave & Matilda's son Mick (Micheal) died in 1995 and is buried at Bunbury:
http://www.ozburials.com/CemsWA/Bunbury/bunbury_l.htm