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Marriage entry on Ancestry

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Jan.

Jan. Report 9 Jul 2019 23:49

Thanks ArgyllGran for John's baptism date and 1861 census info - I hadn't got that info.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Jul 2019 23:43

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John Beacham
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: John Beacham
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 31 May 1840
Baptism Place: Clutton, Somerset, England
Father: George Beacham
Mother: Mary
FHL Film Number: 1526552


John Beacham
in the 1851 England Census
Name: John Beacham
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation: Son
Father's name: George Beacham
Mother's name: Mary Beacham
Gender: Male
Where born: Clutton, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Clutton
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Registration district: Clutton
Sub-registration district: Clutton
ED, institution, or vessel: 6b
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 100
Piece: 1939
Folio: 245
Page Number: 27
Household Members:
Name Age
George Beacham 34
Mary Beacham 33
John Beacham 10
Anna Beacham 8
David Beacham 6
Maria Beacham 4
Enoch Beacham 1


John Beacham
in the 1861 England Census
Name: John Beacham
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: 1841
Relation: Son
Father's name: George Beacham
Mother's name: Mary Beacham
Gender: Male
Where born: Clutton, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Clutton
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Registration district: Clutton
Sub-registration district: Clutton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 94
Piece: 1679
Folio: 31
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
George Beacham 45
Mary Beacham 44
John Beacham 20 - coal miner
David Beacham 16
Maria Beacham 13
Samuel Beacham 5
Sarah Jane Beacham 3

Jan.

Jan. Report 9 Jul 2019 23:05

Thank you very much Maddie and ArgyllGran for the extra info you have given me about the family. It is much appreciated.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Jul 2019 12:52

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James Elms
in the Somerset, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1531-1812
Name: James Elms
[Jabus Elms]
Event Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 1 Jan 1755
Baptism Place: Chew Magna, Somerset, England
Parish as it Appears: Chew Magna
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map:
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Father: Samuel Elms
Mother: Jane Elms



First marriage, maybe ??

James Elmes
in the Somerset, England, Marriage Registers, Bonds and Allegations, 1754-1914
Name: James Elmes
Gender: Male
Marriage or Bann Date: 20 Aug 1786
Marriage Place: Chew Magna, Somerset, England
Parish as it Appears: Chew Magna
Spouse: Sarah Fifoot

Witnesses: Samuel Taylor and James Fifoot.


Daughters with first wife ??

Anne Elms
in the Somerset, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1531-1812
Name: Anne Elms
Event Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 24 Nov 1787
Baptism Place: Stowey, Somerset, England
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map:
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Father: James Elms
Mother: Sarah Elms

Sarah Fifoot
in the Somerset, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1531-1812
Name: Sarah Fifoot
Event Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 1 Feb 1789
Baptism Place: Chew Magna, Somerset, England
Parish as it Appears: Chew Magna
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map:
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Father: Jas Elmes
Mother: Sarah Elmes

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Jul 2019 12:21

Charles Elmes
in the Somerset, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1531-1812
Name: Charles Elmes
Event Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 7 Sep 1804
Baptism Place: Chew Magna, Somerset, England
Parish as it Appears: Chew Magna
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map:
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Father: James Elmes
Mother: Lydia Elmes


James Elems
in the Somerset, England, Marriage Registers, Bonds and Allegations, 1754-1914
Name: James Elems
Gender: Male
Marriage or Bann Date: 2 Aug 1794
Marriage Place: Somerset, England
Parish as it Appears: Chew Magna
Search Photos:
Spouse: Lydia Collins

James was a widower and Lydia a spinster.

It's a long and difficult to decipher document, the gist of which seems to be that James Elems of the parish of Chew Magna, yeoman, and William Robins of the parish of Stowey, yeoman, bind themselves to pay £200 to the Lord Bishop of Bath and Wells.
"The condition of this obligation " is that if no lawful impediment is found by reason of any contract entered into before before 25 March 1754 , "James Elems, a widower, and Lydia Collins, a [something] and spinster, may lawfully solemnise marriage together."
If the marriage took place, the bond to pay £200 would be null and void; if not, it would remain in "full force and virtue".

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Jul 2019 12:02

Maria Elms
in the Somerset, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1914
Name: Maria Elms
Baptism Date: 7 Sep 1834
Baptism Place: Chew Magna, Somerset, England
Parish as it Appears: Chew Magna
Father: Charles Elms
Mother: Charity Elms


???

Charity Elmes
in the Somerset, England, Marriage Registers, Bonds and Allegations, 1754-1914
Name: Charity Elmes
Gender: Female
Marriage or Bann Date: 23 Jul 1828
Marriage Place: Bath, St Michael, Somerset, England
Parish as it Appears: Bath, St Michael
Spouse: Charles Elmes <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Bachelor and spinster; no fathers mentioned.
Witnesses:
Robert Orchard and Martha [Mendenhall ? ]

Robert Orchard was witness to several marriages at that church, so probably not a relative.




Charity Elmes
in the Somerset, England, Church of England Burials, 1813-1914
Name: Charity Elmes
Age: 78
Birth Year: abt 1807
Burial Date: 22 Nov 1885
Burial Place: Chew Magna, Somerset, England
Parish as it Appears: Chew Magna

Maddie

Maddie Report 9 Jul 2019 11:52

1881 census confirms birth found by shirley

John Beacham Head Married Male 40 1841 Coal Miner Clutton, Somerset, England
Maria Beacham Wife Married Female 46 1835 - Chew Magna, Somerset, England -----------------------------
Annie M Beacham Daughter Single Female 17 1864 Servant (Out Of Employ) Farmborough, Somerset, England
Herbert G Beacham Son Single Male 16 1865 Coal Miner Farmborough, Somerset, England
Elizabeth A Beacham Daughter Single Female 12 1869 Scholar Farmborough, Somerset, England
Charles Beacham Son Single Male 11 1870 Scholar Farmborough, Somerset, England
Sarah J Beacham Daughter Single Female 8 1873 Scholar Timsbury, Somerset, England
Samuel J Beacham Son Single Male 7 1874 Scholar Timsbury, Somerset, England

Jan.

Jan. Report 9 Jul 2019 00:39

Thanks Shirley for the census info - just seen that you have posted them.
Very helpful - thanks.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 8 Jul 2019 22:04

3 years dif in birth year but maybe

Maria Elms
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1835
Gender: Female
Where born: Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Chew Magna
Hundred: Chew
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

View image
Registration district: Clutton
Sub-registration district: Chew Magna
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 938
Book: 1
Folio: 3
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Elms 35
Charity Elms 31
Elizabeth Elms 12
Harriet Elms 10
Charles Elms 8
Maria Elms 6
Sarah Elms 4
James Elms 3
William Elms 6 Mo

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 8 Jul 2019 22:01

Maria was born 1838 so should show on the 1841 census and the 1851

Mariah Beacham
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John Beacham
Gender: Female
Where born: Sutton, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Farmborough
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Registration district: Clutton
Sub-registration district: Clutton
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 46
Piece: 2470
Folio: 104
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
John Beacham 34
Mariah Beacham 33
Annie Matilda Beacham 7
Herbert George Beacham 6
Ada Maria Beacham 4
Elizabeth Ann Beacham 2
Charles Beacham 1

Jan.

Jan. Report 8 Jul 2019 22:00

Thanks for your help Shirley. It's obviously one of the ones not showing the certificate.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 8 Jul 2019 21:54

It’s only the record

View England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Maria Elmes
Registration Year: 1862
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Clutton
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume: 5c
Page: 1129
Records on Page:
Name
John Beacham
Maria Elmes

Jan.

Jan. Report 8 Jul 2019 21:53

I'm hoping it has the certificate. A lot of the Somerset records do have the certificate, but not all.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 8 Jul 2019 21:46

Does it have the certificate or just transcription

Jan.

Jan. Report 8 Jul 2019 21:33

Please could someone look on Ancestry at the image of a marriage entry.
This is the entry I'm looking for:-

Marriages Dec 1862
Beacham John Clutton 5c 1129
Elmes Maria Clutton 5c 1129

Clutton is in Somerset.
Could you look at the image and see what information it has, especially who the Fathers are please.