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Andrew Lee, b 1886 Durham

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Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Sep 2019 20:15

What is quite interesting is that Maria Abel was a workhouse officer on 1901 census, described as "Girls trainer" so perhaps that is how she came to know of Enoch if he was in the workhouse?


Maria Abel
Relationship Officer
Marital status Single
Sex Female
Age 42
Birth year 1859
Birth town Bedford
Birth town as transcribed BEDFORD
Birth place England
Birth place other as transcribed -
Birth county Bedfordshire

Occupation Workhouse Officer
House name -
House number -
Street -
Town Balby with Hexthorpe
Parish Balby with Hexthorpe

John

John Report 25 Sep 2019 20:03

Just spotted you have found his death, no age is it

John

John Report 25 Sep 2019 20:01

School post for Enoch Lee see it was 1907, wonder if he was adopted or just taken in by this couple named Abel. they were sn old couple. What a tangled web it all is.

Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Sep 2019 19:55

Yorkshire Burials


First name(s) Enoch
Last name Lee
Sex Male
Age 17
Birth year 1899
Death year 1916
Burial year 1916
Burial date 12 Mar 1916
Burial place Doncaster, Hyde Park Cemetery
Consecrated Consecrated
Plot reference LX157
County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Country England
Collection name Doncaster Cemetery
Record set Yorkshire Burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Burials

Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Sep 2019 19:53

Sadly it gets worse,

Deaths Mar 1916 (>99%)
Lee Enoch 17 Doncaster 9c 1042

John

John Report 25 Sep 2019 19:52

Sorry Rambling must have missed the 1911 post finding Enoch Lee being a boarder, poor lad , just where was his mother, probably prison again

Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Sep 2019 19:46

National School Admission Registers & Log-Books 1870-1914

First name(s) Enoch
Last name Lee
Birth year 1899
Birth date 25 Dec 1899
Event year 1907
School name Beechfield Junior Boys (British) School
Town Doncaster
County Yorkshire
Country England
Parent name(s) Mifs Abel
Book type Admissions
Archive reference SR78_2_3
Folio / page no. 15
Archive
Doncaster Archives
Record set National School Admission Registers & Log-Books 1870-1914
Category Education & work
Subcategory Schools & Education
Collections from Great Britain, England

John

John Report 25 Sep 2019 19:44

Looks like 1871 could be her, her parents must have lived in Durham because she surely wouldn't be in Durham on her own age 12. Another mystery Rambling, see one of her children on the 1901 census was Enock, Lee, found him born Pontefract in 1899 but couldn't find him or mother Margaret on the 1911 census. In 1901 she was in prison in Pontefract. name of Bell been written in.

John

John Report 25 Sep 2019 19:43

Spotted on 1891 census Andrew Bell ( who maybe would have been my Pops dad) states born in Yorkshire , on 1901 he is down as Andrew Lee born Durham his sister Agnes R born in Castleford but she I'd not on the 1901 . Looking back through posts a Mark Bell and on one of the Military records think it was Andrews, , he's mention as being an elder brother,

Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Sep 2019 19:37

John pretty sure this is Enoch 1911 given birthplace

1911 Census For England & Wales
77 Balby Road Balby Doncaster Yorkshire, Balby with Hexthorpe, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England


Maria Abel Head Single Female 61 1850 - Bedford
Andrew Thomas Abel Brother Widower Male 54 1857 Fitter Discharged Medically Pupil Late Of Arsenual Woolwich St James Doncaster

Enoch Lee Boarder - Male 12 1899 School Pontefact Yorks

alviegal

alviegal Report 25 Sep 2019 19:34

Enoch in 1911. He is a boarder under L G B, whatever that is.

1911 Census For England & Wales

77 Balby Road Balby Doncaster Yorkshire, Balby with Hexthorpe, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Maria Abel Head Single Female 61 1850 - Bedford
Andrew Thomas Abel Brother Widower Male 54 1857 Fitter Discharged Medically Pupil Late Of Arsenual Woolwich St James Doncaster
Enoch Lee Boarder - Male 12 1899 School Pontefact Yorks

John

John Report 25 Sep 2019 19:23

Looks like 1871 could be her, her parents must have lived in Durham because she surely wouldn't be in Durham on her own age 12. Another mystery Rambling, see one of her children on the 1901 census was Enock, Lee, found him born Pontefract in 1899 but couldn't find him or mother Margaret on the 1911 census. In 1901 she was in prison in Pontefract. name of Bell been written in.

alviegal

alviegal Report 25 Sep 2019 19:16

And her parents?

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Sleetburn Colliery, Brandon & Byshottles, Durham, Durham, England

Patrick Lee Head - Male 45 1826 - Ireland
Margaret Lee Wife - Female 41 1830 - Ireland
Rebecca Lee Daughter - Female 18 1853 - Scotland
John Lee Son - Male 16 1855 - Scotland
Thomas Lee Son - Male 13 1858 - Scotland
Jane Lee Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Scotland
Peter Clark Lodger - Male 40 1831 - Ireland
Charles Reynolds Lodger - Male 26 1845 - London, Middlesex, England
William Wilson Lodger - Male 50 1821 - Yorkshire, England
Edward Tooley Lodger - Male 43 1828 - Ireland
John Green Lodger - Male 46 1825 - Durham, England



Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms

First name(s) Margaret
Last name Lee
Sex Female
Birth year 1859
Birth date 27 Jun 1859
Baptism year 1859
Baptism date 27 Sep 1859
Denomination Roman Catholic
Baptism place Barrhead
Parish St John
Diocese Glasgow
County Renfrewshire
Country Scotland
Father's first name(s) Patrick
Father's last name Lee
Mother's first name(s) Margaret
Mother's last name Lindsay

alviegal

alviegal Report 25 Sep 2019 19:05

Margaret Lee???

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Sleetburn Colliery, Brandon & Byshottles, Durham, Durham, England

Richard Y Teasdale Head - Male 56 1815 - Durham, England
Mary Teasdale Wife - Female 46 1825 - Northumberland, England
William M Teasdale Son - Male 26 1845 - Durham, England
John R Teasdale Son - Male 17 1854 - Durham, England
Margaret Lee Servant - Female 12 1859 - Scotland Renfrewshire

Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Sep 2019 19:02

That's the one I'm sure Chris, children are on the service record/

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 25 Sep 2019 19:00

No idea on Census below, the Soldier Robert Bell War Death 1915, makes mention of Widow Mary Ann (Soldiers Effects)...

Chris :)

1911
Robert Bell Head Married Male 31 1880 Coal Miner Hewer Durham N K
Mary Bell Wife Married Female 30 1881 - Yorkshire Methley
Edna May Bell Daughter Single Female 2 1909 - Yorkshire West Allerton
Robert Harold Bell Son Single Male 3 1908 - Yorkshire Castleford
Anthony Bell Boarder Widower Male 70 1841 Coal Miner Hewer Durham N K
Clark Hutton Boarder Single Male 28 1883 Coal Miner Hewer Ireland Co Derry
51 King Street Glasshoughton, Glass Houghton, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding),
(says Married 4yrs, 3 children born, 2 living, 1 died)


Edits

Marriages Dec 1906 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------
BELL Robert Pontefract 9c 171
ROGERS Mary Ann Pontefract 9c 171

Birth
BELL, EDNA MAY ROGERS
GRO Reference: 1909 J Quarter in TADCASTER Volume 09C Page 1034

(on Marriage image, age 27, Bachelor, occ. Miner, his Father, Anthony Bell, occ. Miner. Residence, 33, Temple Street. Mary Ann, 25, Spinster, 3, Leaf St, Father, Enoch Rogers, occ. Miner, wits. Enoch Rogers, Sarah Ann Rogers )

(below was at 5)

1901
John Thos Bell Head Married Male 24 1877 Coal Hewer Durham, Durham, England
Lily Bell Wife Married Female 23 1878 - Castleford, Yorkshire, England
John Ed Bell Son - Male 0 1901 - Castleford, Yorkshire, England
5, Temple Street, Castleford, Pontefract, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding),


1911
Robert Hall Boarder Single Male 46 1865 Carter Nottingley Yorkshire
John Thomas Bell Head Married Male 34 1877 Coal Miner Hewer -
Lillie Bell Wife Married Female 33 1878 - Castleford Yorkshire
John Thomas Bell Son - Male 9 1902 - Castleford Yorkshire
Robert Bell Son - Male 8 1903 - Castleford Yorkshire
Margaret Bell Daughter - Female 4 1907 - West Allerton Yorkshire
26 Eastfield Lane Castleford, Castleford, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding),


Marriages Jun 1900 (>99%)
-----------------------------------------------------
Bell John Thomas Pontefract 9c 189
Hall Lilley Pontefract 9c 189

(his Father also Anthony Bell, occ. Miner, and below also)

David Bell abt 1872 26 Dec 1898 Castleford, All Saints Maria Isabell Broome


1901
David Bell Head Married Male 29 1872 Colliery Bye Worker Cragg Hill, Durham, England
Maria Isabell Bell Wife Married Female 27 1874 - Aberford, Yorkshire, England
Victoria Eva Bell Daughter Single Female 0 1901 - Pontefract, Yorkshire, England
6, Carleton View, Pontefract, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding),


1911
David Bell Head Married Male 40 1871 Fish Hawker Durham NK
Maria Isabell Bell Wife Married Female 38 1873 - Yorks Aberford
Victoria Eva Bell Daughter - Female 10 1901 - Yorks Pontefract
Arthur Bell Son - Male 7 1904 - Yorks Glass H
7 King Street Glasshoughton, Glass Houghton, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding),


(probably relates below)

09 December 1896 - Yorkshire Evening Post - Leeds, Yorkshire, England

At Castleford to-day, Anthony Bell, miner, was fined 15s., or fourteen days, for having matches in his possession at Glass Houghton Colliery


British Army Service Records
First name(s)
Robert
Last name Bell
Birth year 1879
Birth parish Bull Craig (Bull Cragg)
Birth town Durham
Birth county Durham
Birth country England
Service number 7697
Regiment York And Lancaster Regiment
Year 1897
Attestation date 07 Dec 1897
Attestation age years 18
Attestation age months 2
Attestation service number 7697

Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Sep 2019 18:50

a couple of other Bell/Dennison children

BELL, SARAH DENNISON DENNISON
GRO Reference: 1873 J Quarter in AUCKLAND Volume 10A Page 272

BELL, JOHN THOMAS DENNISON
GRO Reference: 1874 D Quarter in AUCKLAND Volume 10A Page 253

alviegal

alviegal Report 25 Sep 2019 18:33

Perhaps Margaret Dennison was his true wife. She was described as being a 'lunatic' on the 1881 census. I wonder who Margaret Connor from Scotland is.

alviegal

alviegal Report 25 Sep 2019 18:25

That 1891 census. Margaret is born ???? Head, W B. Or N B.

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Folly Road, Brotherton, Pontefract, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Anthony Bell Head Married Male 48 1843 Miner Durham, Durham, England
Margaret Bell Wife Married Female 31 1860 - -
Robert Bell Son Single Male 12 1879 Scholar Durham, Durham, England
Mark Bell Son - Male 9 1882 Scholar Durham, Durham, England
Anthony Bell Son - Male 7 1884 Scholar Durham, England
Andrew Bell Son - Male 5 1886 Scholar Yorkshire, England
Agnes R Bell Daughter - Female 2 1889 - Castleford, Yorkshire, England


EDIT Could be born BarrHead.

Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Sep 2019 18:25

AHA! So that's this one which helps not at all!


BELL, DAVID DENNISON DENNISON
GRO Reference: 1872 M Quarter in AUCKLAND Volume 10A Page 242

First name(s) David Dennison
Last name Bell
Gender Male
Birth year 1872
Birth place -
Baptism year 1872
Baptism date 17 Mar 1872
Residence Shildon, Durham, England
Place Shildon
County Durham
Country England
Father's first name(s) Anthony
Father's last name Bell
Mother's first name(s) Margaret
Mother's last name Bell
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975


Marriages Jun 1871 (>99%)
BELL Anthony Auckland 10a 381
Dennison Margaret Auckland 10a 381