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Meads and Folly's.

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Terence

Terence Report 7 Oct 2019 01:20

I have connections with Folly's with marriages to female Meads in 1771 and 1799.
Newspapers report of a court case of William Meads aged 25, being convicted of assaulting and robbing Joseph Folly in Bisham, Berkshire on 4 Jan 1836, after both were affected by alcohol when leaving a benefit meeting in Marlow.
After many hours searching I was expecting to find these persons connected to my ancestors, by without success.
A possible clue is a marriage on 11 Apr 1831 in Marlow of William Meads to Elizabeth Corby. In the 1841 census William is missing!
A record shows a William Meads conviction at a Berks assizes of possibly this offence and sentenced to death! Commuted to 1 years imprisonment.
My ancestor's around that time are Thomas Meads1757, married to Hannah Church1758 in 1778 in Cookham.
So I wonder if anyone can find a connection to my 'tree' as I have connections with Folly's in both Bisham, Cookham and Meads in Marlow.

Terence Meads. South Australia.

malyon

malyon Report 7 Oct 2019 11:32

Mary Meads
England Marriages, 1538–1973
Name:
John Folly
Spouse's Name:
Mary Meads
Event Date:
03 Dec 1771
Event Place:
Cookham,Berkshire,England

Martha Meades
England Marriages, 1538–1973
Name:
James Folly
Spouse's Name:
Martha Meades
Event Date:
12 Aug 1799
Event Place:
Hambleden, Buckingham, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Oct 2019 12:09

At least three other GR members have Thomas Meads 1757 in GR trees.

Try contacting them to see if they have any further info

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 7 Oct 2019 12:49

Says he was imprisoned 1 year march 1836.

Chris :)

England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935 Great Britain (Find My Past)
Meads William 1836

(above document, says of Great Marlow, good character, having never been convicted or charged of any offence has a wfe, two young children, wife far advancing in pregnancy...)


Buckinghamshire Marriage Index
First name(s) William
Sex Male
Last name Meads
Marriage year 1831
Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth
Spouse's last name Corby
Denomination Anglican
County Buckinghamshire
Place Great Marlow
Document type Bishop's transcripts
Page 126
Marital status bachelor
Residence Great Marlow
Marriage date 11 Apr 1831
Spouse's marital status spinster
Spouse's residence Great Marlow
By licence or by banns Banns
First witness Henry Howard
Second witness Jane Lacey
Third witness Henry Badger


Buckinghamshire Baptism Index
First name(s) William
Last name Meads
Baptism year 1836
Denomination Anglican
County Buckinghamshire
Place Great Marlow
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Meads
Document type Bishop's transcripts
Page 39
Baptism date 05 May 1836
Father's occupation Labourer
Residence Great Marlow

(also)

Meads Hannah — 1831 England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Great Marlow, Buckinghamshire, England

Meads Sarah — 1834 England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Great Marlow, Buckinghamshire, England


1841
Elizabeth Meads Female 25 1816 Buckinghamshire, England
Ann Meads Female 5 1836 Buckinghamshire, England
Sarah Meads Female 5 1836 Buckinghamshire, England
William Meads Male 5 1836 Buckinghamshire, England
St Peter Street, Marlow, Great, Wycombe, Buckinghamshire,


06 January 1838 - Bucks Herald - Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, England

Local Intelligence.
William Meads was indicted for breaking open the shop of John Heck, at Great Marlow, and stealing therefrom fourteen shoes. John Beck proved that on the night of the 18th...
(Sentence - Transported for Life)


https://convictrecords.com.au/convicts/meads/william/47611

https://librariestas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/search/results?qu=meads


(another newspaper account of 1836, mentions Martha Folly, Mother of Joseph, Cookham, Berks.)

Edits (Joseph being Son of James and Martha (Meades) by the looks of things!) (1831 Marriage, Cookham, Joseph Folly, Elizabeth Silver)


Edits (below (Trove Newspapers) looks to have been 'Pardon' of William, Tasmania, ship Lady Nugent, if he went to NZ. 1841/2)

https://tinyurl.com/yyhxwoed

https://tinyurl.com/y4yjt3jq


Marriages Jun 1857 (>99%)
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Meads Hannah Marylebone 1a 775
Sowden Charles Thomas Marylebone 1a 775

(on imge for above, Father, William Meads, occ. Rope Spinner, a witness, Sarah Meads)

1911
Charles T Sowden Head Widower Male 79 1832 Clerk Portmouth Hant
Thomas Sowden Son Single Male 41 1870 Electrical Instrument Maker St Pancras London
Sarah Mead Sister In Law Single Female 77 1834 Housekeeper Marlow Bucks
16 Medburn ST, St Pancras, London & Middlesex


1901 (Sowden, not Bowles!, they are next door)
Charles Sowden Head Married Male 69 1832 Clerk (Post Office) Portsea, Hampshire, England
Hannah Bowles Wife Married Female 69 1832 - Great Marlow, Buckinghamshire, England
Sarah Bowles Daughter Single Female 41 1860 Directory Clerk Islington, Middlesex, England
Sarah Mead Sister-In-Law Single Female 67 1834 Cook (Domestic) Great Marlow, Buckinghamshire, England
16, Medburn Street, St Pancras, London & Middlesex


1891
Charles Sowden Head Married Male 59 1832 Schools Care Taker Hampshire, England
Hannah Sowden Wife Married Female 59 1832 - Buckinghamshire, England
Sarah Sowden Daughter Single Female 31 1860 Merchants Clerk London, Middlesex, England
Charles Sowden Son Single Male 28 1863 Teacher London, Middlesex, England
Alfred Sowden Son Single Male 25 1866 P C Clerk Peterborough, Northamptonshire, England
Thomas Sowden Son Single Male 21 1870 Mechanical Engineer London, Middlesex, England
Elizabeth Mead Mother In Law Widow Female 84 1807 - Buckinghamshire, England
Sarah Mead Sister In Law Single Female 87 1804 General Servant Domestic Buckinghamshire, England
Stibbington Street, St Pancras, London & Middlesex,


Deaths Mar 1902 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------
Sowden Hannah 70 Pancras 1b 62

http://www.deceasedonline.com/

(her Burial)

Maddie

Maddie Report 7 Oct 2019 13:13

Print
William Meads

in the Australian Convict Transportation Registers – Other Fleets & Ships, 1791-1868View Australian Convict Transportation Registers – Other Fleets & Ships, 1791-1868

Name: William Meads
Vessel: Coromandel
Convicted Date: 2 Jan 1838
Voyage Date: 25 Jun 1838
Colony: Tasmania (Van Diemen's Land)
Place of Conviction: Buckinghamshire, England


Name: William Meads
Arrival Date: 1838
Vessel: Coromandel
Province: Tasmania
Title: Ledger Returns A - R
Year(s): 1846
Place of Conviction: Bucks

Name: William Meads
Vessel: Coromandel
Province: Tasmania
Title: Pardons
Year(s): 1849-1851
Place of Conviction: Bucks

William Meads

in the Tasmania, Australia, Insolvency and Petty Sessions, 1829-1902

Name: William Meads
Date: 13 Jan 1855
Place: Tasmania, Australia
Reference Number: LC346-3-3
guilt5y fined 40s

Maddie

Maddie Report 7 Oct 2019 13:34

just a maybe

Name: William Mead
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 18 Feb 1811
Baptism Date: 15 Mar 1811
Baptism Place: Saint Mary,Aylesbury,Buckingham,England
Father: Michael Mead
Mother: Sarah
FHL Film Number: 919409

no is in 1851 census

or


William Mead
Gender
Male
Christening Date
16 Aug 1829
Christening Date (Original)
16 AUG 1829
Christening Place
LATIMER,BUCKINGHAM,ENGLAND
Birth Date
17 Jul 1811
Father's Name
Jonathan Mead
Mother's Name
Mary

Buckinghamshire Burial Index
First name(s) Jonathan
Last name Mead
Burial year 1832
Birth year 1802
Death year -
Denomination Anglican
County Buckinghamshire
Country England
Place Soulbury
Document type Bishop's transcripts
Page 26 & 27
Age 30
Burial date 21 Jul 1832
Residence Soulbury

Maddie

Maddie Report 7 Oct 2019 15:17

martha from the 1799 marriage

Martha Mead
England Births and Christenings
Name
Martha Mead
Gender
Female
Christening Date
25 Oct 1778
Christening Date (Original)
25 OCT 1778
Christening Place
COOKHAM,BERKSHIRE,ENGLAND
Father's Name
Thomas Mead
Mother's Name
Hanah

Name: Thos. Meads
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 17 Oct 1757
Baptism Place: Cookham,Berkshire,England
Father: Thos. Meads
Mother: Mary
FHL Film Number: 88236

mary from 1771 marriage

Name: Mary Meads
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 18 Mar 1753
Baptism Place: Cookham,Berkshire,England
Father: Thos. Meads
Mother: Mary
FHL Film Number: 88236

ame: Thom: Meads
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 5 Feb 1729
Baptism Place: Wasing, Berkshire, England
Father: Jno Meads
Mother: Eliz: Meads
FHL Film Number: 1040710
Reference ID: items 12-13 p 44

not that it helps very much

Terence

Terence Report 8 Oct 2019 00:40

Thank you Malyon, ErikaH, Chris Ho and Maddie, for the extra information.
I had not done much searching of the Folly's, so it looks like Joseph is the son of James and Martha (Meads) Folly. I just had their marriage details.
Will also look into William's information from this column.

Terence Meads.