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was she Agnes Barker or Agnes Lowe ? SORTED

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Carter

Carter Report 1 Nov 2019 20:49

I wonder if anyone could give me some advice .

I am looking at the marriage of Thomas Broomhead to Agnes LOWE


Marriage: 21 Oct 1787 St Aidan, Billinge, Lancashire, England
Thomas Broomhead - Husbandman, this parish
Agnes Barker - Spinster, this parish
Witness: Peter Farclough; Alice Lowe
Banns Read: 7 Oct 1787, 2nd: 14 Oct 1787, 3rd: 21 Oct 1787
Married by Banns by: Rd. Slater Officiating Min.
Register: Marriages 1787 - 1799, Page 8, Entry 31
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

I had dismissed this but i have found that 44 other trees on ancestry have this as Thomas Broomhead marrying Agnes LOWE

I have messaged several of them as to why they have come to this outcome but no reply ..

I can see there is an Alice Lowe as a witness and wonder if there is some confusion over this.

I cant find a marriage for Thomas Broomhead and Agnes Lowe

However there are these 3 children



Baptism: 15 Feb 1789 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Thomas Broomhead - first Son of Thomas Broomhead & Agnes (formerly Lowe)
Born: 23 Jan
Abode: Haigh
Occupation: Labourer
Mother's Parents: Peter Lowe
Register: Baptisms 1779 - 1799, Page 216
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives



Baptism: 22 Aug 1791 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Catharine Broomhead - first Daur. of Thomas Broomhead & Agnes (formerly Lowe)
Born: 4 Jul
Abode: Haigh
Occupation: Weaver
Mother's Parents: Peter & Agnes Lowe
Register: Baptisms 1779 - 1799, Page 275
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

Baptism: 2 May 1794 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Agnes Broomhead - second Daur. of Thomas Broomhead & Agnes (formerly Lowe)
Born: 3 Apr
Abode: Haigh
Occupation: Husbandman
Mother's Parents: Peter & Agnes Lowe
Register: Baptisms 1779 - 1799, Page 352
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives


malyon

malyon Report 1 Nov 2019 21:12

Agnes Lowe
mentioned in the record of John Fairclough





Name: Agnes Lowe
Sex: Female
Husband: Peter Fairclough
Son: John Fairclough
Other information in the record of John Fairclough
from England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name:
John Fairclough
Gender:
Male
Christening Date:
26 Apr 1807
Christening Date (Original):
26 APR 1807
Christening Place:
WIGAN,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
04 Apr 1807
Father's Name:
Peter Fairclough
Mother's Name:
Agnes Lowe

malyon

malyon Report 1 Nov 2019 21:14


Name: Agnes Lowe
Sex: Female
Husband: Thomas Broomhead
Daughter: Agnes Broomhead
Other information in the record of Agnes Broomhead
from England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name:
Agnes Broomhead
Residence Place:
Wigan, Lancashire, England
Gender:
Female
Christening Date:
02 May 1794
Christening Date (Original):
2 May 1794
Christening Place:
Wigan, Lancashire, England
Father's Name:
Thomas Broomhead
Mother's Name:
Agnes Lowe

malyon

malyon Report 1 Nov 2019 21:16

Agnes Lowe
mentioned in the record of Agnes Fairclough
Name: Agnes Lowe
Sex: Female
Husband: Peter Fairclough
Daughter: Agnes Fairclough
Other information in the record of Agnes Fairclough
from England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name:
Agnes Fairclough
Gender:
Female
Christening Date:
28 Jan 1810
Christening Date (Original):
28 JAN 1810
Christening Place:
WIGAN,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
11 Dec 1809
Death Date:
15 Apr 1810
Father's Name:
Peter Fairclough
Mother's Name:
Agnes Lowe

Carter

Carter Report 2 Nov 2019 06:48

Maylon

Thank you for your replies but Im not sure where the connection is.

Could you explain a little more for me.

Thank you

Linda

Maddie

Maddie Report 2 Nov 2019 10:14

is this herr death to see if a birth that matches can be fouund

Burial: 22 Jun 1841 Horwich Chapel, Horwich, Lancashire, England
Agnes Bromhead -
Age: 87 years
Abode: Haigh
Buried by: David Hewitt
Register: Burials 1838 - 1853, Page 43, Entry 341
Source: LDS Film 2113122

Maddie

Maddie Report 2 Nov 2019 10:16

Baptism: 24 May 1755 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Agnes Lowe - Daughter of Peter Lowe & Agnes
Abode: Haigh
Register: Baptisms 1754 - 1778, Page 10
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

no bapt on lancs for an agnes barker around that date

another version

Name: Thos Brocmhoad
[Thos Broomhead]
Gender: Male
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 21 Oct 1787
Parish: Billinge, Lancashire, England
Search Photos: Search for 'Billinge' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
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Spouse: Agnes Boaker

perhaps there was a mix up in names

Marriage: 3 Jan 1739/40 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Peter Lowe - Haigh in this Parish
Agnes Hodskinson - Haigh in this Parish
Married by Banns by: Mr Tho. Edge Curate
Source: Original Register at Wigan Archives

alviegal

alviegal Report 2 Nov 2019 20:02

Perhaps this is her first marriage?

Marriage: 26 Jan 1777 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
James Barker - Haigh
Agnes Lowe - Haigh
Witness: Gerd. Bancks; Peter Grimshaw
Married by Lyc. by: T. Whitehead
Source: LDS Film 1885689


Perhaps James' death?

Burial: 8 Mar 1779 Horwich Chapel, Horwich, Lancashire, England
Jams. Barker -
Abode: Hay
Notes: [BTs record the abode as 'Haigh']
Source: LDS Film 2113121


Agnes and her siblings.



Baptism: 17 Apr 1741 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Tho. Lowe - Son of Peter Lowe & Agnes
Abode: Haigh
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

Baptism: 17 Dec 1743 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Tho. Lowe - Son of Peter Lowe & Agnes
Abode: Haigh
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

Baptism: 31 Dec 1745 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Peter Lowe - Son of Peter Lowe & Agnes
Abode: Haigh
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

Baptism: 20 May 1748 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Henry Lowe - Son of Peter Lowe & Agnes
Abode: Haigh
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

Baptism: 4 Aug 1750 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
John Lowe - Son of Peter Lowe & Agnes
Abode: Haigh
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

Baptism: 12 Nov 1752 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Henry Lowe - Son of Peter Lowe & Agnes
Abode: Haigh
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

Baptism: 24 May 1755 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Agnes Lowe - Daughter of Peter Lowe & Agnes
Abode: Haigh
Register: Baptisms 1754 - 1778, Page 10
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

Baptism: 26 Nov 1757 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Ann Lowe - Daughter of Peter Lowe & Agnes
Abode: Haigh
Register: Baptisms 1754 - 1778, Page 27
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

Baptism: 27 Jul 1760 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Mary Lowe - Daughter of Peter Lowe & Agnes
Abode: Haigh
Register: Baptisms 1754 - 1778, Page 49
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

Baptism: 19 Jun 1762 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Peers Lowe - Son of Peter Lowe & Agnes
Abode: Haigh
Register: Baptisms 1754 - 1778, Page 64
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

Carter

Carter Report 3 Nov 2019 06:50

I have been informed by someone who has done research on the Broomhead family that Agnes Lowe was born 1768 to Thomas Lowe and Jane Collinson although they could not give me any point of reference.

Maddie

Maddie Report 3 Nov 2019 10:30

this is that baptism

Agnes
Last name Lowe
Gender Female
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1768
Baptism date 20 May 1768
Residence Wigan, Lancashire, England
Place Wigan
County Lancashire
Country England
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Father's last name Lowe
Mother's first name(s) Jane
Mother's last name Lowe

fmp hints this is her marriage

Agnes
Last name Lowe
Name note -
Marriage year 1785
Marriage date 08 Feb 1785
Marriage place Wigan
Spouse's first name(s) John
Spouse's last name Hasleden
Residence Wigan, Lancashire, England
County Lancashire
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973

children
Baptism: 28 Jan 1787 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
John Hasselden - second Son of John Hasselden & Agnes (formerly Lowe)
Born: 30 Dec
Abode: Hallgate
Occupation: Carpenter
Mother's Parents: William & Ann Lowe
Register: Baptisms 1779 - 1799, Page 169
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

Baptism: 4 Jul 1790 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
William Haselden - third Son of John Haselden & Agnes (formerly Lowe)
Born: 6 Jun
Abode: Market Street
Occupation: Carpenter
Mother's Parents: William & Ann Lowe
Register: Baptisms 1779 - 1799, Page 249
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

Baptism: 25 Mar 1792 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Robert Haselden - fourth Son of John Haselden & Agnes (formerly Lowe)
Born: 25 Feb
Abode: Wient
Occupation: Carpenter
Mother's Parents: William & Ann Lowe
Register: Baptisms 1779 - 1799, Page 292
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

Baptism: 7 Jul 1793 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Betty Hasselden - second Daur. of John Hasselden & Agnes (formerly Lowe)
Born: 8 Jun
Abode: Wient
Occupation: Carpenter
Mother's Parents: William & Ann Lowe
Register: Baptisms 1779 - 1799, Page 329
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

for what its worth i think the marriage posted by alviegal above for agnes lowe to james barker and her subsequent marriage barker to broomhead clears this up

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 3 Nov 2019 21:24

Below could have related...

Chris :)

Baptism: 20 Nov 1778 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Betty Barker - Daughter of James Barker & Agnes
Abode: Haigh
Register: Baptisms 1754 - 1778, Page 239
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives


Edits (if her below)

Marriage: 15 Aug 1808 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Hugh Ryding - (X), Haigh
Betty Barker - (X), Haigh
Witness: Wm. Bancks; Thos. Brown
Married by Banns by: Thomas Pigot Curate
Register: Marriages 1803 - 1812, Page 225, Entry 878
Source: LDS Film 1885690


Death
RYDING, BETTY 66
GRO Reference: 1852 M Quarter in CHORLEY Volume 08E Page 269


Ryding Betty 1785 1852 1852 Lancashire Burials Standish, St Wilfrid, Lancashire, England (March 17th) (Abode, Coppull)

Carter

Carter Report 4 Nov 2019 07:54

Thank you everyone

I think I need to settle down and look at what you have all found for me and not go off what other people have in their trees.

Thank you once again

Linda

mgnv

mgnv Report 4 Nov 2019 19:20

Using http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/
Marriage: 3 Jan 1739/40 All Saints, Wigan, Lancs.
Peter Lowe - Haigh in this Parish
Agnes Hodskinson - Haigh in this Parish
Married by Banns by: Mr Tho. Edge Curate
Source: Original Register at Wigan Archives

Today, we would say the year was 1740, but back then, they didn't have new year on Jan 1sr, but some time in March, so they said Jan 3 was still 1739

Carter

Carter Report 4 Nov 2019 21:23

mgnv
I was unaware of that.
thank you for the info
Linda