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Is this not the death of Robert son of Alexander Watt and Marion Stevenson?

Age at death Mother's Maiden Name Year Ref RD Name Image View
WATT
ROBERT
25
STEVENSON
1856
599/ 76
Kilwinning


I'm struggling to see where you have got the names of your Robert's parents. Can you tell us please where you found their names? I'm just a little concerned that you are following the wrong Watt family backwards from your Robert.

In 1871, Robert also gives his birthplace as England but a birth year of 1841.

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Kirk Close, Dalry, Ayrshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

Robert Watt Head Married Male 30 1841 Labourer England
Mary Watt Wife Married Female 24 1847 - Glasgow, Ayrshire, Scotland

Having read through the thread, for what it's worth, I agree with ErikaH. There is no evidence to prove that Robert was born in Scotland. Also as no marriage or death certificate has been found, I don't see how anyone knows his parents' names.

Given the age difference between Robert and Mary, perhaps he wasn't free to marry her.

I think it may be necessary to trawl through earlier census to try to identify him before he was with Mary.

If it is known where Mary was buried, it may be worth finding out who is buried in the same grave.

If he died in England, this is the only death (1901-30) which matches what his age would be - assuming the informant got it right:

Deaths Mar 1906 (>99%)
WATT Robert 75 Durham 10a 234


Robert Watt
in the England, Select Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
Name: Robert Watt
Gender: Male
Burial Date: 13 Jan 1906
Burial Place: Durham, Durham, England
FHL Film Number: 2104078
Reference ID: p336

There's no Robert Watt aged 78-82 anywhere in Scotland in 1911.

Nor did he die in Scotland.
I've used some credits and looked at the two Robert Watt deaths of the right age, 1901-1930 - neither of them is the right man.

One's in East Kilbride, a farmer, single, parents James Watt & Margaret Browning. Informant: brother Gavin.

The other died in Stromness - so not likely in any case!.
Widower of Isabella McGregor.
A coach hirer. Parents James Watt & Betsy Oag.

Not yet proved that the Robert in question was born in Scotland. Census returns for him in 1881 and later say he was born in England

A Brother of Robert...

https://www.freereg.org.uk/

Chris :)

County Ayrshire
Place Dunlop
Church name Church of Scotland Parish Church
Register type Unspecified
Birth date 24 Jan 1830
Baptism date 31 Jan 1830
Person forename John
Person sex M
Father forename Alexr
Father surname WATT
Mother surname STEVENSON
Person abode Longton


County Ayrshire
Place Dunlop
Church name Church of Scotland Parish Church
Register type Unspecified
Birth date 04 Jul 1831
Baptism date 24 Jul 1831
Person forename Robert
Person sex M
Father forename Alexr
Mother forename Marion
Father surname WATT
Mother surname STEVENSON
Person abode Langton


County Ayrshire
Place Dunlop
Church name Church of Scotland Parish Church
Register type Unspecified
Marriage date 03 Mar 1829
Groom forename Alexr
Groom surname WATT
Groom occupation Wright
Bride forename Marion
Bride surname STEVENSON
Bride parish Neilston


(another about!)

County Ayrshire
Place Dunlop
Church name Church of Scotland Parish Church
Register type Unspecified
Birth date 25 Jun 1828
Person forename Robert
Person sex M
Father forename Alexr
Mother forename Agnes
Father surname WATT
Mother surname WATT
Person abode Mosside


County Ayrshire
Place Dunlop
Church name Church of Scotland Parish Church
Register type Unspecified
Marriage date 16 Feb 1826
Groom forename Alexr
Groom surname WATT
Groom occupation Farmer
Bride forename Agnes
Bride surname WATT

Re the name Janet on Alexander's death cert -

Who was the informant?
Any info would depend on what the informant knew (or thought they knew) - not necessarily correct.

ADDED:
I've had a look - the informant was Alexander's grandson, who may very well not have known accurately what his great-grandmother's name was.

Thank you everyone for your help, I need to go and check things off and then sort a reply,????

daughter mary married william stain
posted the census as it says father born in england
1930
Name: Mary Stain
[Mary Strain]
[Mary Stair]
Birth Year: abt 1876
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birthplace: Scotland
Marital status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Homemaker?: Yes
Home in 1930: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
Map of Home: View Map
Street address: Marton Street
Ward of City: 23 Pt of Tract 23 G
Block: 79
House Number: 5220
Dwelling Number: 208
Family Number: 218
Age at first Marriage: 22
Attended School: No
Able to Read and Write: Yes
Father's Birthplace: England -----------
Mother's Birthplace: Scotland
Language Spoken: English
Immigration Year: 1927
Naturalization: Alien
Able to Speak English: Yes
Household Members:
Name Age
William Stain 52
Mary Stain 54
David Stain 22
James Stain 19
John Stain 14
William Finnie 26
Helen Finnie 29
Neighbors:

1901
Name: Mary Strain
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : William Strain
Gender: Female
Where born: Kilmarnock, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 599
Registration district: Kilwinning
Civil Parish: Kilwinning
Town: Kilwinning
County: Ayrshire
Address: 5 Almsidall Rd
ED: 10
Household schedule number: 80
Line: 17
Roll: CSSCT1901_230
Household Members:
Name Age
William Strain 24
Mary Strain 25
Robert Strain 3 mmn - watt
Mary Strain 4
Ellen Strain 6 Mo

Name: William J Strain
Gender: Male
Race: White
Age: 64
Birth Date: 18 Dec 1901
Birth Place: Scotland
Death Date: 10 Dec 1965
Death Place: Chester, Pennsylvania, USA
Father: William Strain
Mother: Mary Watt
Spouse: Jeanny Strain
Certificate Number: 117503-65
Search for William J Strain in Pennsylvania Wills & Probates collection

Just asking...................

If you don't have Robert's marriage cert, how did you find out - with absolute certainty - the names of his parents?

The 2 Robert Watt births / baptisms from OPR's.

But if the 1881/91/01 in Stevenston are the correct census then that Robert is shown as born England !!

Surname Forename Parents/ Other Details Gender Date Parish Number Ref Parish Image View
WATT
ROBERT ALEXANDER WATT/AGNES WATT FR526 (FR526)
M 25/06/1828 591/30 37 Dunlop

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WATT ROBERT ALEXANDER WATT/MARION STEVENSON FR532 (FR532)
M 24/07/1831 591/30 50 Dunlop

Agnes
Last name Watt
Marriage year 1826
Marriage date 16 Feb 1826
Marriage place Dunlop,Ayr,Scotland
Spouse's first name(s) Alexander
Spouse's last name Watt
Place Dunlop
County Ayrshire
Country Scotland

1841
Mid Grange, Dunlop, Ayrshire, Scotlan
Alexander Watt Male 50 1791 Scotland
Agnes Watt Female 30 1811 Ayrshire, Scotland
Robert Watt Male 12 1829 Ayrshire, Scotland
John Watt Male 10 1831 Ayrshire, Scotland
Margaret Watt Female 8 1833 Ayrshire, Scotland
James Watt Male 6 1835 Ayrshire, Scotland
Agnes Dunlop Watt Female 4 1837 Empl At Home Stewarton, Ayrshire, Scotland
William Laughlan Servant Unmarried Male 16 1835 Farm Labourer Stewarton, Ayrshire, Scotland

Have you looked at John & Margaret's marriage record?
I suppose it's too much to hope that it gives any fathers' names??

There are several John Watts born in Dunlop in feasible years.
Also several Margaret Wyl*ies.

could jane be a 'nickname'

Name: Alexander Watt
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 7 Mar 1799
Baptism Date: 10 Mar 1799
Baptism Place: , Dunlop, Ayr, Scotland
Father: John Watt
Mother: Margaret Wyllie
FHL Film Number: 1041341
Reference ID: 2:16CW29H

Name: Agnes Watt
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 13 Apr 1806
Baptism Place: , Dunlop, Ayr, Scotland
Father: John Watt
Mother: Margaret Wylie
FHL Film Number: 1041341

Margaret
Last name Wyllie
Marriage year 1790
Marriage date 06 Mar 1790
Marriage place Dunlop,Ayr,Scotland
Spouse's first name(s) John
Spouse's last name Watt
Place Dunlop
County Ayrshire

Births which may or may not be siblings of alexander:

WATT
JOHN
JOHN WATT/MARGARET WYLIE FR192 (FR192)
M
28/01/1791
591/
10 353
Dunlop




WATT
WILLIAM
JOHN OR WILLIAM WATT MARGARET WYLIE FR203 (FR203)
M
28/01/1798
591/
10 376
Dunlop


WATT
AGNES
JOHN WATT/MARGARET WYLIE FR221 (FR221)
F
13/04/1806
591/
10 412
Dunlop


WATT
JANET
JOHN WATT/MARGARET WYLIE FR192 (FR192)
F
28/01/1791
591/
10 353
Dunlop


WATT
JOHN
JOHN WATT/MARGARET WYLLIE FR200 (FR200)
M
17/01/1796
591/
10 369
Dunlop


WATT
JAMES
JOHN WATT/MARGARET WYLLIE FR213 (FR213)
M
30/11/1801
591/
10 395
Dunlop

I know you have this, Lindsey - but posting for helpers' reference (well, for mine, at least!):

Robert Watt
in the 1851 Scotland Census
Name: Robert Watt
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1832
Relationship: Son
Father: Alexr Watt
Mother: Marion Stevenson
Gender: Male
Where born: Dunlop, Ayrshire
Parish Number: 599
Civil Parish: Kilwinning
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
Town: Kilwinning
County: Ayrshire
Address: Corsehill
Occupation: Joiner
ED: 13
Page: 10
Household schedule number: 37
Line: 18
Roll: CSSCT1851_134
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexr Watt 52 - Dunlop
Marion Stevenson 47
John Watt 27
Robert Watt 19
James Watt 9
Dard Watt 7


Alexander Watt
in the 1861 Scotland Census
Name: Alexander Watt
Age: 62
Estimated birth year: abt 1799
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Marion Watt
Gender: Male
Where born: Dunlop, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 599
Registration district: Kilwinning
Civil Parish: Kilwinning
Town: Kilwinning
County: Ayrshire
Address: Pathfoot
Occupation: Wright & Kitchen Gardener
ED: 15
Household schedule number: 126
Line: 2
Roll: CSSCT1861_87
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexander Watt 62
Marion Watt 56
James Watt 19
David Watt 17
Elizabeth Hood 13


Birth:

WATT
ALEXANDER
JOHN WATT/MARGARET WYLLIE FR207 (FR207)
M
10/03/1799
591/
10 383
Dunlop


Where do you get the name Janet, Lindsey?
Does it say that on Alexander's birth or marriage cert?

(EDIT: 16 Nov. - ah, I see now that your OP explains that.)





WATT
JOHN
MARGARET WYLLIE/FR455 (FR455)
06/03/1790
591/
20 182
Dunlop

Robert in 1901 - still in Stevenson and Still says born England

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Townhead Street, Stevenston, Ayrshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Barr Head Married Male 36 1865 Genl Labr Dalry, Ayrshire, Scotland
Mary Barr Wife Married Female 36 1865 - Ireland
Margaret Jane Barr Daughter - Female 10 1891 Scholar Stirlingshire, Scotland
Violet Barr Daughter - Female 8 1893 Scholar Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Andrew Barr Son - Male 6 1895 - Lanarkshire, Scotland
Mary Barr Daughter - Female 4 1897 - Stevenston, Ayrshire, Scotland
William Barr Son - Male 3 1898 - Stevenston, Ayrshire, Scotland
Daniel Barr Son - Male 0 1901 - Stevenston, Ayrshire, Scotland
Robert Watt Boarder Widower Male 70 1831 Genl Labr England
Charles Gallaher Boarder Married Male 61 1840 Stone Breaker Ireland
Alfred Lane Boarder Single Male 22 1879 Genl Labr England
William Hetherington Boarder Married Male 58 1843 Boot & Shoemaker Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
John Fairweather Boarder Widower Male 56 1845 Genl Labourer Arbroath, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland

the 1881 posted by Shirley, but this from FMP - shows Robert born in England as does the 1891

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Ardeer Square, 61, Stevenston, Ayrshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Watt Head Married Male 50 1831 Laborer At Iron Work England
Mary Watt Wife Married Female 33 1848 - Girvan, Ayrshire, Scotland
Janet Watt Daughter - Female 7 1874 Scholar Ardrossan, Ayrshire, Scotland
Mary Watt Daughter - Female 5 1876 - Saltcoats, Ayrshire, Scotland
Sarah Watt Daughter - Female 4 1877 - Saltcoats, Ayrshire, Scotland
Elizabeth Watt Daughter - Female 0 1881 - Stevenston, Ayrshire, Scotland

Thank you soo very much for that
I have Robert with his parents Alexander and Marion and know who Alexander and Marions children are. My main problem is trying to find the wedding for Robert Watt and Mary Halbert if it did happen it states on their sons birth record that they married 24/04/1870 in Beith but can’t find it. The next thing I’m trying to find is Alexander’s parents John Watt and Janet or Margaret Wylie who are Alexander’s parents.

Thank you once again