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Arthur Rimmington b1884

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Julie

Julie Report 9 Feb 2020 10:51

I am struggling to trace Arthur after 1911. He was born in 1884 at Keisby Lincolnshire, though this is not always shown as his place of birth. He was the illegitimate son of Maria Hydes Rimmington. She married Frederick Elsom in 1888. Arthur appears on the 1891 census as Elsom with Maria and Frederick, the same is true in 1901. On the1911 census he is a visitor in the house of Margaret Hill under the Rimmington surname. I have looked for him under both Rimmington and Elsom, but can find no trace of a marriage or death. Can anyone help?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Feb 2020 10:55

Might this be the man?

Name: Arthur Rimmington
Arrival Date: 8 Jul 1923
Birth Date: abt 1884
Age: 39
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: English
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Celtic

He was a crew member, occupation 4th Butcher

Height 5ft 7ins Weight 140lbs

Julie

Julie Report 9 Feb 2020 11:02

I don't think so, given that his occupation up to 1911 was as a farm worker.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 9 Feb 2020 11:12

People (especially single people) often changed their jobs at that time and many went into the services as a way of bettering themselves.

I wouldn't discount the record Erika found if you can't find any trace of him in England.

Kath. x

Julie

Julie Report 9 Feb 2020 11:24

Poi nt taken Kath, but as a crew member, as opposed to a passenger. the inference is that he would still have had a base somewhere in England and unless he actually died on board ship, there should be a death. If he did become a seaman, he could in theory have died anyway in the UK.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Feb 2020 11:30

He could have died overseas

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 9 Feb 2020 11:31

He certainly could but I can't find a likely death for him in Britain. All the deaths for that name seem to be in places where there was a different birth for the same name.

Kath. x

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Feb 2020 12:03

1901 gives him the middle name William.

Julie

Julie Report 9 Feb 2020 12:07

ArgyllGran, he certainly wasn't registered at birth as Arthur William, just William. I know forenames sometimes got added, the 1901 census is the only record in which William appears as a second forename.

Julie

Julie Report 9 Feb 2020 13:15

I should have said that Arthur was reg'd as just Arthur, no William.

Rambling

Rambling Report 9 Feb 2020 13:17

Just for ref i can see I've looked before, there is an Arthur William ( Elsom ) but he's to a different family.

Rambling

Rambling Report 9 Feb 2020 13:36

For ref this IS them in 1901

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Carver's, (In Row), Bitchfield, Grantham, Lincolnshire, England

Frederick Elsom Head Married Male 39 1862 Agricultural Labourer Corby, Lincolnshire, England
Maria Elsom Wife Married Female 37 1864 - Ancaster, Lincolnshire, England
Arthur Wm Elsom Son - Male 16 1885 Farm Labourer Keisby, Lincolnshire, England
Margaret Ellen Elsom Daughter - Female 12 1889 - Lincolnshire, England
Sarah Millicent B Elsom Daughter - Female 5 1896 - Gelston, Lincolnshire, England

daughter mistranscribed surname on birth reg GRO ELSTON, SARAH MILLICENT mmn RIMMINGTON
GRO Reference: 1895 S Quarter in GRANTHAM Volume 07A Page 493

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Feb 2020 10:16

Is this him in 1911

Arthur Rimmington
Age in 1911: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Relation to Head: Visitor
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Spittlegate, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Harrowby Without Spittlegate Without
Search Photos: Search for 'Harrowby Without Spittlegate Without' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street address: 13 & 14 Spittlegate Cottages
Marital status: Single
Occupation: Waggoner
Registration district: Grantham
Registration District Number: 417
Sub-registration district: Grantham North
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Piece: 19687
Household Members:
Name Age
Margaret Hill 42
Frank Hill 28
Sarah Elizabeth Hill 19
Edward Haynes 22
Arthur Rimmington 26

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 10 Feb 2020 10:48

That's the 1911 census the OP mentioned