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Hi all,
I am trying to find further information about Thomas hart (born Salford 1853). I know that he married Mary Jane (don’t know maiden name) in 1877 she was born 1854 in Belfast.
I am a platinum member and paid extra for parish records but not sure where you search the parish record- can’t see it on the site.
First night as a member and becoming addicted to it again...
any help would be appreciated

if you click on Search top right ot page and go to Births marriages and deaths in menu, click the one you want and it will show you the parish records available

You''ll probably find looking at freebmd for marriages is quicker to start with,
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl try this one
You'll be able to confirm maiden name by looking for any children they had in census, and cross checking with the GRO birth index.

Marriages Sep 1877 (>99%)
Hart Thomas Salford 8d 207
HIGGINS Mary Jane Salford 8d 207

I don't know about parish records on GR - they probably come under births, deaths, or marriages, under "Search" at top right of this page.

Few of the helpers on here use GR for looking at records.


This looks like your Thomas and Mary Jane:

Thomas Hart
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Thomas Hart
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Relationship to Head: Boarder
Spouse: Mary J. Hart
Gender: Male
Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 17 North Cable St
Marital status: Married
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Laborer Timber Yard
Registration district: Salford
Sub registration district: Greengate
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors:
Piece: 3961
Folio: 81
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel Devlin 31
Mary Devlin 25
Joseph Devlin 4
Mary A. Devlin 2
Margaret Devlin
Mary J. Coyle 48
Thomas Hart 27
Mary J. Hart 26 - Ireland
George Hy. Hart 2

So this will be their son's birth:

HART, GEORGE HENRY mms HIGGINS
GRO Reference: 1878 S Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 103


Therefore Mary Jane's surname was Higgins.

And I see Rambling has posted Thomas &Mary J's marriage above.

Do you know for sure that Thomas was born in 1853?

There are four possible births c 1853-4:


HART, THOMAS mms WELCH
GRO Reference: 1852 J Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 2

HART, THOMAS mms PEARSON
GRO Reference: 1853 M Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 71

HART, THOMAS mms MCGINNIS
GRO Reference: 1853 J Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 60

HART, THOMAS COOPER mms COOPER
GRO Reference: 1854 J Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 66

You need to buy a copy of the marriage cert to find out Thomas's father's name.

Thomas Hart
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Thomas Hart
Age in 1911: 58
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation to Head: Father
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Salford, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Salford and Broughton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 34 North James Henry St Salford M/C
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Bricklayer Labourer
Registration district: Salford
Registration District Number: 465
Sub-registration district: Greengate
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Piece: 24031
Household Members:
Name Age
Fredrick Bell 26
Sarah Ann Bell 27
Thomas Hart 58
Mary Jane Hart 57 - Belfast
George Henry Hart 33
John Hart 18
Ellen Hart 3

Thanks so much for all of this really appreciate it. I’m not certain of the date as could be the year before. The census of 1911 was a match thank you.

Suggestion for possible baptism of Mary Jane:

Mary Jane Higgins
in the Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915
Name: Mary Jane Higgins
Baptism Age: 0
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 1855
Baptism Date: 22 Jul 1855
Baptism Place: St Patrick's, Belfast city, Antrim, Ireland
Parish Variants: Donegall Street, Belfast, St. Patrick's
Diocese: Down and Connor
Father: George Higgins
Mother: Eliza Meloin

Marriage: 22 Sep 1877 Cathedral Church of St John the Evangelist, Salford, Lancashire, England
Thomam Hart - Salf.
Mariam Joannam Higgins - Salf.
Groom's Parents: Henrici Hart & Sarae Hart
Bride's Parents: Georgii Higgins & Mariae Annae Higgins
Witness: Joanne Clarke; Joanna Antonia Muller
Married by: Patricius Nowlan, M. C.
Register: Marriages 1863 - 1893, Page 492
Source: Original Register at LRO

free site
https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/

Baptism: 12 Aug 1878 Cathedral Church of St John the Evangelist, Salford, Lancashire, England
Georgius Henricus Hart - filius Thomae Hart & Mariae Johannae (formerly Higgins)
Born: 29 Jul 1878
Abode: 7 Every St
Godparents: Georgius Higgins; Johanna Antonia Miller
Baptised by: P. Nowlan M.C.
Register: Baptisms 1878 - 1886, Page 55
Source: Original Register at Lancashire Archives

Thank you so so much for this. I really appreciate it. It is great to get the mind on something like this. Really appreciate it and thank you for the details and the sources too.