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Rev Jonathan Jones (1745-1832)

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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Aug 2021 14:18

Translated

Source Info: Subscribed to, God's life is a man's soul: or, the nature and excellence of the Christian religion. Along with the means to reach the fellow as it is shot. In English by Henry Scroum, A.M. And turned into Welsh by D.D., 1779, Scroudal, Henry, Carmarthen. Printed by Ioan Ross at Road-y-Prior, near the church; Subject: Religion

Maddie

Maddie Report 2 Aug 2021 14:00

Jonathan Jones

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Name: Jonathan Jones
Dates: 1776-1800, 1751-1760, 1761-1770
Location: County/Colonial: Wales caerfyrddin
Gender: Male
Address(es): Rhyd y bont; County/Colonial: Wales
Source Date: 1779
Source Info: Subscribed to, Bywyd Duw yn Enaid Dyn: neu, Natur a Rhagoroldeb y Grefydd Grist'nogol. Ynghyd A'r Modd I gyrraedd y Gwynfyd ag y mae hi yn ei Gynnyg. Yn Saesonaeg Gan Henry Scougal, A.M. Ac wedi ei droi i'r Gymraeg gan D.D., 1779, SCOUGAL, Henry, Caerfyrddin. Argraffwyd gan Ioan Ross yn Heol-y-Prior, gerllaw'r Eglwys; subject: religion

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Aug 2021 13:37

There were 11 children in the first marriage, two of whom were named John and David

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Aug 2021 12:30

Are you thinking that these may be a couple of his children??

Ann Jones
England and Wales Non-Conformist Record Indexes (RG4-8), 1588-1977
Name: Ann Jones
Christening Date: 12 Jan 1784
Christening Place: Llanybyddar, Carmarthenshire
Father's Name: Jonathan Jones
Mother's Name: Ann Jones


Sarah Jones
Vital • England and Wales Non-Conformist Record Indexes (RG4-8), 1588-1977
Name Sarah Jones
Christening Date 21 Jul 1812
Christening Place Llanybyddar, Carmarthenshire
Father's Name John Jones
Mother's Name Ann Jones

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Aug 2021 12:23

Why do you think his first wife was called Mary or Anne?


The only marriage I can see in Carmarthenshire in a reasonable timeframe is this one below - but there is absolutely no reason to think it might be the right one - in fact I'm pretty sure it's not .
He could have been married at any time from about 1761 onwards.

Posting just in case.

Jonathan Jones
Wales, Carmarthenshire, Parish Registers, 1538-1912
Name: Jonathan Jones
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Thomas
Marriage Banns Date: 1807
Marriage Banns Place: Llanfihangel Rhos Y Corn, Carmarthenshire, Wales
Marriage Banns Place (Original): Llanfihangel Rhos Y Corn

Llanfihangel Rhos Y Corn is about 8 miles from Pencader and Llanllwni.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Jul 2021 21:32

He couldn’t have fathered 11 children with one woman between 1811 and 1817

malyon

malyon Report 31 Jul 2021 19:38

Name Jonathan Jones
Spouse's Name Anne Jones
Marriage Date 25 Dec 1811
Marriage Place Llandybie, Carmarthenshire, Wales
Marriage Place (Original) Llandybie
Page 63

Maddie

Maddie Report 31 Jul 2021 17:20

JONES, JONATHAN (1745 - 1832), Independent minister
Name: Jonathan Jones
Date of birth: 1745
Date of death: 1832
Child: David Jones
Child: John Jones
Parent: Mary Morgan
Parent: John Morgan
Gender: Male
Occupation: Independent minister
Area of activity: Religion
Author: Evan David Jones

Born near Llanfihangel in the parish of Abergwili, Carmarthenshire, 1745, the youngest of five children of John and Mary Morgan. His parents worshipped at the Pant-teg Congregational chapel. He was apprenticed as a blacksmith, like his father, and worked for William Thomas, Llanllwni, whose smithy he took over when the latter removed to Llanwennog. He became a member of the Congregational church at Pencader, where he was urged to preach. He was called to the pastorate of the church at Rhyd-y-bont, Llanybydder, and was ordained there, 9 August 1775. His ministry was attended by success there, and in the surrounding districts. He was a prominent figure in the monthly and quarterly meetings of the Independents. He preached regularly for a period at Horeb, Gwernogle, and Abergorlech. The old church at Pencader was also in his charge for some time. He was called to Brychgoed, Brecknock, but preferred to remain at Rhyd-y-bont. A church was incorporated and a chapel built under his direction at Maes Nonni, 1810. In 1815, his ministry at Rhyd-y-bont came to a close under a cloud, but he was restored as preacher, and he maintained his pastorate of Troed-y-rhiw, Dihewyd, a church which he had founded. He died 18 February 1832, and was buried at Rhyd-y-bont. He was twice married, and had eleven children by his first wife. The eldest, John Jones, entered the ministry, and another son, David Jones, was a surgeon, but he died young. Jonathan Jones is described as a strong man a witty preacher, a hyper-Calvinist in theology, and a stout defender of infant baptism.

Author

Evan David Jones, (1903 - 1987)

Sources
Y Diwygiwr, 1836, 37-40, 69-72
Hanes Eglwysi Annibynnol Cymru, iii, 547-50, iv, 99-100

Additional Links
Wikidata: Q20733691

Published date: 1959

Article Copyright: http://rightsstatements.org/page/InC/1.0/

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 31 Jul 2021 16:47

Not all Welsh Chapel records were kept so you may have a few problems.

If you google the Revs name you should get to genuine page called Llandysilliogogo chapels - there is an interesting article at the end.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Jul 2021 16:31

Where have you looked? No point in duplicating your searches

What evidence do you have for his being married before he married Hannah?

Where was he born?

Victoria

Victoria Report 31 Jul 2021 16:22

I'm trying to discover details of the first wife of Rev Jonathan Jones (1745-1832), who was the minister at Rhyd-y-bont Independent Chapel, Llanybydder, Carmarthenshire from 1775 to about 1815. I believe his first wife was called either Mary or Anne, and must have died before 1817 (when he married Hannah Evans). His first wife may have come from Llanllwni, where Jonathan Jones was apprenticed to the blacksmith William Thomas