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WILLIAM HENRY SMITH

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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Apr 2023 18:40

There were two Robert Smith/Mary Ann Fuller marriages before 1841

Without further info from the OP, it’s all speculative

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Apr 2023 18:11

Address in 1851 above is 18 Norfolk Street. All the Smiths except William were born in Yarmouth, Norfolk

Baptism of the son Robert:

Robt Fullar Smith
in the Norfolk, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1919
Name Robt Fullar Smith
Gender Male
Baptism Date 6 Sep 1834
Baptism Place Gorleston with Southtown, Suffolk, England
Father Robt Smith [bricklayer]
Mother Ann Smith

He emigrated to Australia and died in 1918.

1841, as mentioned by ErikaH, at Noah's Ark Court:

Robert Smith
in the 1841 England Census
Name Robert Smith
Age 6
Estimated Birth Year abt 1835
Gender Male
Civil parish St Mary
Hundred Brixton (Eastern Division)
County/Island Surrey
Country England
Registration district Lambeth
Sub-registration district Lambeth Church First
Neighbors
Piece 1057
Book 4
Folio 48
Page number 38
Household Members (Name) Age
Robert Smith 35 - bricklayer
Ann Smith 35
Elizabeth Smith 14
Robert Smith 6
Emily Smith 4
Harriet Smith 2


The 1840 death of a Harriet Smith, posted earlier, can't be the death of the Harriet on 1841 census, unless she's been entered on the census by mistake.

The daughter Elizabeth:

Elizabeth Partridge Smith
in the Norfolk, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1919
Name Elizabeth Partridge Smith
Baptism Date 20 Sep 1826
Baptism Place Gorleston with Southtown, Suffolk, England
Father Robert Smith [ bricklayer ]
Mother Mary Ann Smith

Address: Gorleston


Elizabeth Partridge Smith
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1938
Name Elizabeth Partridge Smith
Gender Female
Record Type Marriage
Marriage Date 8 Oct 1849
Marriage Place St Mary, Lambeth, Lambeth, England
Father Robert Smith [bricklayer]
Spouse James Scott
Register Type Parish Register

Address of both: 18 Norfolk Row.


Two other children who died:

Samuel Smith
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name Samuel Smith
Gender Male
Baptism Date 22 Jul 1833
Baptism Place Gorleston With Southtown,Suffolk,England
Death Date 13 Sep 1833
Father Robert Smith
Mother Mary Ann


Sarah Smith
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name Sarah Smith
Gender Female
Baptism Date 26 Sep 1828
Baptism Place Gorleston With Southtown,Suffolk,England
Death Date 5 Oct 1828
Father Robert Smith
Mother Mary Ann


ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Apr 2023 13:21

The 1841 census above is almost certainly the family of the child Rachel……….their address is Noah’s Ark Court

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Apr 2023 12:14

Name Rachel Anna Smith
Gender Female
Death Age 1
Record Type Burial
Birth Date abt 1842
Death Date Abt 1843
Burial Date 20 Jun 1843
Burial Place St Mary At Lambeth, Lambeth Road, Lambeth, England
Register Type Parish Register
Abode: Noah's Ark Court

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 Apr 2023 12:04

None of the William Henry Smiths born 1844+/-1 whose marriage CERTS are on Ancestry is recorded as having a father named Robert

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 7 Apr 2023 13:27

Unfortunately there are quite a number of William Henry Smiths marrying in Lambeth around the right sort of time. ( freebmd).

As Robert is asking for descendants I presume he hasn’t worked the line back to William Henry.

Maddie

Maddie Report 7 Apr 2023 12:22

William Smith
Age 7
Estimated Birth Year abt 1844
Relation Son
Father's Name Robert Smith
Mother's Name Ann Smith
Gender Male
Where born Lambeth, Surrey, England
Civil parish Southwark St Saviour
County/Island Surrey
Country England
Registration district St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district St Saviour
ED, institution, or vessel 10
Neighbors
Household schedule number 229
Piece 1558
Folio 293
Page number 46
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Robert Smith
47 Head
Ann Smith
44 Wife
Robert Smith
16 Son
Emily Smith
16 Daughter
William Smith 7 Son
William Cunningham
32

Robert Smith
Gender Male
Marriage Date 17 Aug 1825
Marriage Place Gorleston With Southtown,Suffolk,England
Spouse
Marianna Fuller
FHL Film Number 0952318-327, 0952979, 0952981-095298

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Apr 2023 12:02

SMITH, WILLIAM HENRY FULLER
GRO Reference: 1843 D Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 04 Page 242

SMITH, RACHEL HANNAH FULLER
GRO Reference: 1841 D Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 04 Page 230

SMITH, HARRIET FULLER
GRO Reference: 1839 S Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 04 Page 222

Name Robert Smith
Gender Male
Marriage Age Full Age
Marriage Date 25 Feb 1838
Marriage Place Dovercourt, All Saints, Essex, England
Father John Smith
Spouse Mary Ann Fuller
Father John Fuller



Name Harriet Smith
Gender Female
Baptism Date 29 Sep 1839
Baptism Place Saint Mary, Lambeth, Surrey, England
Father Robert Smith
Mother Mary Ann
FHL Film Number 1041529
Reference ID 300

??

SMITH, HARRIET 0
GRO Reference: 1840 J Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 04 Page 220

SMITH, RACHEL ANNA 1
GRO Reference: 1843 J Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 04 Page 172

SMITH, WILLIAM HENRY 0
GRO Reference: 1844 M Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 04 Page 172

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 7 Apr 2023 11:20

And, of course, it IS Smith. A nightmare name to research.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Apr 2023 09:16

How did you work back to him without knowing at least one of his descendants - if there were any?

Have you done any research?

Censuses are FREE on familysearch

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 7 Apr 2023 08:52

Have you found William in any of the census? This could lead you to a wife and children.
Have you looked at Search/ all members trees to see if anyone has the family in their tree?

Www.freebmd.org.uk may be if use once you have an idea.

ROBERT

ROBERT Report 7 Apr 2023 08:25

Born October 1843 in Lambeth to Robert and Maryanne.
I wish to learn of any descendants of William.