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James Greaves trying to find him

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Sidami

Sidami Report 25 Apr 2023 10:43

Wow you are all amazing Thankyou I am just trying to help a friend so kind of you to give up your time

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Apr 2023 18:59

His death (posted at 14.06) gives birth year as 1901

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 Apr 2023 17:36

The brother Samuel in 1901 - with uncle and aunt - the family seems to have been split up. Maybe because of the imminent birth of James in 1901:

Samuel Greaves
in the 1901 England Census
Name Samuel Greaves
Age 9
Estimated Birth Year abt 1892
Relation to Head Nephew
Gender Male
Birth Place Leicestershire, England
Civil parish Leicester formerly Knighton
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Ecclesiastical parish Knighton St Mary Magdalene
County/Island Leicestershire
Country England
Registration district Leicester
Sub-registration district South Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel 07
Neighbors
Piece 3002
Folio 159
Page number 15
Household schedule number 87
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
George Greaves 39 Head
Sarah Greaves 39 Wife
Samuel Greaves 9 Nephew


Marriages Dec 1891 (>99%)
Graves Henry Leicester 7a 517
Wilson Beatrice Annie Leicester 7a 517


Deaths Sep 1907 (>99%)
Greaves Beatrice Annie 33 Leicester 7a 128


Beatrice A Greaves
in the 1901 England Census
Name Beatrice A Greaves
Age 26
Estimated Birth Year abt 1875
Relation to Head Wife
Gender Female
Spouse John Greaves
Birth Place Leicestershire, England
Civil parish Leicester formerly Knighton
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Ecclesiastical parish Knighton St Mary Magdalene
County/Island Leicestershire
Country England
Registration district Leicester
Sub-registration district South Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel 07
Neighbors
Piece 3002
Folio 157
Page number 11
Household schedule number 62
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
John Greaves 31 Head - Shoe artist, bootmaker
Beatrice A Greaves 26 Wife
Jennie Greaves 1 Daughter


GREAVES, JENNIE mmn WILLSON
GRO Reference: 1900 J Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 07A Page 282


BUT Henry (aka John) isn't a fruiterer, as stated in the marriage record posted by Greyghost.
And your James was born 1900, not 1901, at least according to 1939 (though that's often wrong).

greyghost

greyghost Report 24 Apr 2023 17:36

1901 census taken 31 March so James wouldn't have been born

Samuel Greaves with Uncle and Aunt in 1901

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
148, Sheridan Street, Leicester, Leicestershire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Greaves Head Married Male 39 1862 Shoe finisher Leicestershire, England
Sarah Greaves Wife Married Female 39 1862 Shoe machinist Leicestershire, England
Samuel Greaves Nephew - Male 9 1892 - Leicestershire, England


and Jennie would appear to be listed as daughter to John and Beatrice A Greaves
just along the road -

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
181, Sheridan Street, Leicester, Leicestershire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Greaves Head Married Male 31 1870 Shoe artist Leicestershire, England
Beatrice A Greaves Wife Married Female 26 1875 Machinist (boot) Leicestershire, England
Jennie Greaves Daughter - Female 1 1900 - Leicestershire, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 24 Apr 2023 17:26

Sister Jennie's birth reg.

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
GREAVES, JENNIE WILLSON
GRO Reference: 1900 J Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 07A Page 282

and if this is his correct birth reg. (posted earlier by ErikaH) James WAS born 1901 -
GREAVES, JAMES WILLSON
GRO Reference: 1901 J Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 07A Page 306

then sister Evelyn
GREAVES, EVELYN ANNIE WILLSON
GRO Reference: 1902 S Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 07A Page 278

No baptisms showing on FMP

greyghost

greyghost Report 24 Apr 2023 17:18

1921 Census Of England & Wales
10, Rudkin Street, Leicester, Leicestershire, England
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First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer
Edward Waring Head Male 1866 55 Warwickshire, England Builders Labourer J Hotchinon Builders, De Montfort St, Leicester
Ada Waring Wife Female 1868 53 Shepshed, Leicestershire, England Housekeeper At Home
Emily Waring Daughter Female 1904 17 Leicester, Leicestershire, England Boots & Shoe Leather Cutter Jhone Knight, Boot & Shoe Manfrs
Harry Waring Son Male 1901 19 Leicester, Leicestershire, England Boots & Shoe Finisher A Williamson, Boot & Shoe Manfrs, Spinner St, Leicester
James Greaves Boarder Male 1901 20 Leicester, Leicestershire, England Boots & Shoe Finisher Pole & Whitman, Checkets Road, Leicester, Boot & Shoe Manfrs

Original says he was born Alstone Park, Leicester. It's been crossed out as too specific and Leicestershire written instead.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 Apr 2023 17:17

Beatrice - the sister in the 1911 posted earlier - is with her grandmother in 1901:

Beatrice Greaves
in the 1901 England Census
Name Beatrice Greaves
Age 2
Estimated Birth Year abt 1899
Relation to Head Granddaughter
Gender Female
Birth Place Hinckley, Leicestershire, England
Civil parish Hinckley
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Ecclesiastical parish Hinckley St Mary
Town Hinckley
County/Island Leicestershire
Country England
Registration district Hinckley
Sub-registration district Hinckley
ED, institution, or vessel 04
Neighbors
Piece 2961
Folio 87
Page number 14
Household schedule number 89
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Sarah Greaves 68 Head
Henry Mokes 55 Boarder
Jonathan Deacon 55 Boarder
Jack Hewins 56 Boarder
Harry Turner 47 Boarder
Sarah Holt 21 Granddaughter
Beatrice Greaves 2 Granddaughter


GREAVES, BEATRICE MAUD mmn WILSON
GRO Reference: 1898 S Quarter in HINCKLEY Volume 07A Page 66



Beatrice N Greaves [ BEATRICE M on blurred image ]
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Beatrice N Greaves
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Leicester
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Spouse: Bertie Hunt
Volume Number: 7a
Page Number: 617


She's one of the witnesses to James's marriage, as already posted, so the 1911 census is the correct one..

greyghost

greyghost Report 24 Apr 2023 17:04

A wedding date in March 1925 aged 24 would fit with a Birth date of April 1900 as per 1939 Register

Leicestershire Marriages
Leicester, Christ Church, Leicestershire, England

First name(s) James
Last name Greaves
Age 24
Birth year 1901
Residence 23 George Street
Father's first name(s) Henry
Father's last name Greaves
Marriage year 1925
Marriage date 14 Mar 1925
Spouse's first name(s) Annie Agnes
Spouse's last name Hitchman
Spouse's age 22
Spouse's residence 23 George Street
Spouse's father's first name(s) Frank
Spouse's father's last name Hitchman
Denomination Anglican
Place Leicester, Christ Church
County Leicestershire
Country England
Event type Parish Registers
Archive Record Office for Leicestershire, Leicester & Rutland
Archive reference 3D71/13
Record set Leicestershire Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain

From original - Father Henry a Fruiter (probably meant to say Fruiterer)
Frank Hitchman an Engineer
witnesses - Horace Lester and Beatrice Maud Hunt

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 24 Apr 2023 14:59

1939 Register?:-

75 Stephenson Drive, Leicester, Leicester C.B., Leicestershire, England

Household members (3 people)

First name(s) Last name(s) Birth date Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule sub number

James Greaves 18 Apr 1900 Male Heel Trimmer (Shoes) Married 36 1
Annie A Greaves 27 Jul 1903 Female Hosiery Winder Married 36 2
June M Hughes (Greaves) 30 Jun 1937 Female Under School Age Single 36 3

EDIT - sorry Erika - I missed your 1939 entry.

Kath. x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Apr 2023 14:13

Why didn't you give ALL the info in your opening post?
It would have been HELPFUL....................................


ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Apr 2023 14:12

Possibility for 1911, BUT.........................marriage cert essential, if you want an ACCURATE tree

9 Manners Road Leicester, Leicester, Leicestershire, England
Henry Greaves Head Widower Male 39 1872 Shoe finisher Leics Hinckley
Mary Slater Housekeeper Single Female 34 1877 - Derbys Derby
Samuel Greaves Son Single Male 19 1892 Rubber hand Leics Hinckley
Beatrice Greaves Daughter Single Female 12 1899 - Leics Hinckley
Jennie Greaves Daughter Single Female 10 1901 - Leics Leicester
James Greaves Son Single Male 9 1902 - -
Evelyn Greaves Daughter Single Female 8 1903 - -
Henry Greaves Son Single Male 7 1904 - -


GREAVES, SAMUEL WILLSON
GRO Reference: 1892 J Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 07A Page 192

Sidami

Sidami Report 24 Apr 2023 14:08

Thankyou his grandaughter always thought he was adopted

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Apr 2023 14:06

Deaths 1984 (>99%)
GREAVES JAMES 18AP1901 LEICESTER C 6 1787

This MIGHT be his birth

GREAVES, JAMES WILLSON
GRO Reference: 1901 J Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 07A Page 306

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Apr 2023 13:58

Name: Annie Agnes Hitchman
Registration Date: 1902
Quarter of the Year: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Place: Leicester, Leicestershire, England
Volume: 7a
Page: 177

NOTE......birth year not as given in 1939

Name: Annie Agnes Greaves
Death Age: 93
Birth Date: 7 Jun 1902
Registration Date: Apr 1996
Registration District: Leicester
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Register Number: B51C
District and Subdistrict: 6001B
Entry Number: 275

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Apr 2023 13:55

Name: Annie A Hitchman
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar 1925
Registration District: Leicester
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Spouse: James Greaves
Volume Number: 7a
Page Number: 277

You can order the cert using the info above

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Apr 2023 13:50

Name James Greaves
Gender Male
Marital Status Married
Birth Date 18 Apr 1900
Residence Date 1939
Address 75
Residence Place Leicester, Leicestershire, England
Occupation Heel Trimmer (Shoes)
Line Number 7
Schedule Number 36
Sub Schedule Number 1
Enumeration District Reau
Borough Leicester
Registration district 407-1
Household Members (Name) Age
James Greaves 39
Annie A Greaves 36...27/07/1903
Jane M Greaves 2...30/06/1937..married HUGHES


ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Apr 2023 13:48

How do you know he was born in Leicester?

If he knew his father, the details will be on the marriage cert

Sidami

Sidami Report 24 Apr 2023 13:39

On census He was born 1901/02 Leicester married 1925 Annie Hitchman in 1925 had one daughter lived in Leicester can’t seem to find him on the 1901 or. 1911 census can you see him on 1939 for me please Thankyou so much.1 would like to know who his parents are