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Harriet Lloyd

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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Dec 2023 08:50

PM sent advising OP of info posted………OPENED

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 Dec 2023 10:23

The woman from above marriage.........living next door to Harriet Morgan!!

1939 Register
Dee Bank Ctge Chester Road E,Shotton, Hawarden, Hawarden R.D., Flintshire, Wales
J William Williams 06 Apr 1896 Male Labourer Steelworks Hw Married 240 1
Lilian (Lily) William 09 Jul 1901 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 240 2
Evelyn Lloyd (Williams) 27 Oct 1920 Female Land Worker Single 240 3
Dennis Williams 28 Jul 1922 Male Steel Rolling Mill Single 240 4

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 8 Dec 2023 09:34

Thomas's birth:

Thomas Lloyd
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1916-2007
Name Thomas Lloyd
Registration Date Oct 1920 [Nov 1920] [Dec 1920]
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district Holywell
Inferred County Flintshire
Mother's Maiden Name Lloyd
Volume Number 11b
Page number 315


Possible marriage ???

Thomas Lloyd
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name Thomas Lloyd
Registration Date Jan 1942 [Feb 1942] [Mar 1942]
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district Hawarden
Inferred County Flintshire
Spouse
Evelyn Williams
Volume Number 11b
Page number 667


Possible death???

Thomas Lloyd
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name Thomas Lloyd
Death Age 41
Birth Date abt 1921
Registration Date Jan 1962 [Feb 1962] [Mar 1962]
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district Hawarden
Inferred County Flintshire
Volume 8a
Page 603

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 8 Dec 2023 09:26

Possible death of the Harriet who married James Morgan in 1937:

Harriet Morgan
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name Harriet Morgan
Death Age 73
Birth Date abt 1889
Registration Date Jan 1962 [Feb 1962] [Mar 1962]
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district Holywell
Inferred County Flintshire
Volume 8a
Page 628

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 Dec 2023 08:35

Harriet was unmarried in 1921 as per census
Her son was 6 months of age

Jink20

Jink20 Report 8 Dec 2023 00:02

FMP search parameters -Harriet Lloyd 1888 YOB

3 Results

(1)
Lloyd, Harriet 1915
England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Holywell, Flintshire, Wales

First name Harriet
Last name Lloyd
Country Wales
Marriage quarter 4
Volume 11B
Marriage year 1915
Volume as transcribed 11B
Registration month -
Page number 452
MarriageFinder™ Harriet Lloyd married one of these people
Robert J Davies

1939 Register
Harriet Davies
Flintshire, Wales

1 Penicl Villas, Greenfield, Holywell U.D., Flintshire, Wales
Robert Jones Davies 03 May 1884 Male Coal Salesman
Harriet Davies 23 Apr 1892 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties

Not Identical YOB
According to Google Holywell is 5 miles from Flint

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(2)
Lloyd, Harriet 1937
England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Hawarden, Flintshire, Wales

First name Harriet
Last name Lloyd
Country Wales
Marriage quarter 1
Volume 11B
Marriage year 1937
Volume as transcribed 11B
Registration month -
Page number 418
MarriageFinder™
Harriet Lloyd married one of these people
James Morgan

1939 Register
Harriet Morgan
Flintshire, Wales
1939

1 Dee Bank Hall Chester Road E,Shatton, Hawarden, Hawarden R.D., Flintshire, Wales
James (T) Morgan 02 Mar 1864 Male Retired
Harriet Morgan ? Feb 1889 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties

On looking at the original the "?" appears to be a 6.
6 Feb 1889

According to Google Hawarden is about 8 miles from Flint.

Greyghost entry 7 Dec 2023 20:37
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Harriet Lloyd Daughter Single Female 12 1889 - Flint, Flintshire, Wales

Harriet is incorrectly recorded in the 1901 Census as 1889 YOB
Harriet in this 1939 Register entry is also recorded as 1889 YOB

Same person??

I am aware that it is not conclusive proof as to being the same Harriet being sought after as there is no BC to confirm.



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(3)
Lloyd,Harriet 1938
England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Holywell, Flintshire, Wales

Marriage quarter 3
Volume 11B
Marriage year 1938
Volume as transcribed 11B
Registration month -
Page number 335
MarriageFinder™ Harriet Lloyd married one of these people
William Davies

Two 1939 Register entries are offered for Harriet Davies

William Davies 04 Jun 1874 Male General Labourer Married 308 1
Harriet Davies 01 Aug 1875 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties
Camarthanshire

William Davies 15 Dec 1890 Male Store Keeper Petroleum Storage
Harriet Davies 30 Oct 1888 Female Shop & Café Proprietor
Anglesey

Not the correct birth year (Camarthanshire)/ birth month (Anglesey)

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Jink20

Jink20 Report 7 Dec 2023 21:58

FamilySearch has a tree for Harriet
Paternal branch dates to 1756
Maternal 1796

Some entries have records attached which you would need to verify.
No date of birth for Harriet

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/portrait/GC89-9SH

greyghost

greyghost Report 7 Dec 2023 21:26

11 family trees on Ancestry with her in - none have a date of birth or go beyond 1911

greyghost

greyghost Report 7 Dec 2023 21:06

Said to be 33 years and 4 months old in 1921 census which was taken 19 June 1921 so should be a birth around late January, first half February if accurate

alviegal

alviegal Report 7 Dec 2023 21:02

Thomas is Harriet's son.

First name(s) Thomas
Mother's first name(s) Harriet
Last name Lloyd
Page 29
Birth year 1921
County Flintshire
Birth date ? ? 1921
Country Wales
Baptism year 1921
Record set Flintshire Baptisms
Baptism date 12 Feb 1921
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Place Holywell
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Father's first name(s) -
Collections from Wales, Great Britain

greyghost

greyghost Report 7 Dec 2023 21:02

Flintshire Baptisms
Flint, Flintshire, Wales

First name(s) Harriet
Last name Lloyd
Baptism year 1888
Baptism date 08 Mar 1888
Birth year 1888
Birth date ? ? 1888
Father's first name(s) John
Mother's first name(s) Martha
Place Flint
Page 16
County Flintshire
Country Wales
Record set Flintshire Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from Wales, Great Britain
Welsh Archive Services / Gwasanaethau Archifau Cymru

From original -
Abode looks like "The Marsh"

no date of birth given on baptism record

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Harriet Lloyd in 1891
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
5, The Marsh, Flint, Holywell, Flintshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Lloyd Head Married Male 39 1852 Chemical labourer Flintshire, Wales
Martha Lloyd Wife Married Female 38 1853 - Flint, Flintshire, Wales
Margaret Lloyd Daughter Single Female 17 1874 - Flint, Flintshire, Wales
Elizabeth A Lloyd Daughter Single Female 10 1881 - Flint, Flintshire, Wales
Frances Lloyd Daughter Single Female 8 1883 - Flint, Flintshire, Wales
Harriet Lloyd Daughter Single Female 3 1888 - Flint, Flintshire, Wales
William J Lloyd Son Single Male 15 1876 Coopers labourer Flint, Flintshire, Wales
Edward Lloyd Son Single Male 13 1878 - Flint, Flintshire, Wales
Llewellyn Lloyd Son Single Male 5 1886 - Flint, Flintshire, Wales
John A Lloyd Son Single Male 0 1891 - Flint, Flintshire, Wales


greyghost

greyghost Report 7 Dec 2023 20:58

No other first names to help with marriage / death records

Unless you have her birth certificate she could have been born late 1887 as 6 weeks was allowed in which to register a birth.

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
LLOYD, HARRIET BLUNT
GRO Reference: 1888 M Quarter in HOLYWELL Volume 11B Page 230

IF you have the BC, what was her actual birth date please

greyghost

greyghost Report 7 Dec 2023 20:46

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1909 (>99%)
BALL Bessie May Chester 8a 695
COLLIER William Chester 8a 695 <<<<<<<<
MORGAN Robert Chester 8a 695
SMITH Frances Chester 8a 695 <<<<<<

greyghost

greyghost Report 7 Dec 2023 20:41

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1904 (>99%
Hughes Thomas Edward Chester 8a 561
Lloyd Francess Chester 8a 561 <<<<<<<<<
Smith Albert Chester 8a 561 <<<<<<<<
Williams Elizabeth Chester 8a 561

greyghost

greyghost Report 7 Dec 2023 20:37

Frances and Harriet together

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
4, Marsh Lane, Flint, Holywell, Flintshire, Wales
View original record

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Lloyd Head Married Male 48 1853 Chemical labourer Halkin, Flintshire, Wales
Martha Lloyd Wife Married Female 47 1854 - Flint, Flintshire, Wales
William Lloyd Son Single Male 25 1876 Stoker Flint, Flintshire, Wales
Edward Lloyd Son Single Male 23 1878 Colliery fireman Flint, Flintshire, Wales
Frances Lloyd Daughter Single Female 19 1882 Domestic service Flint, Flintshire, Wales
Harriet Lloyd Daughter Single Female 12 1889 - Flint, Flintshire, Wales

greyghost

greyghost Report 7 Dec 2023 20:33

??
1921 Census Of England & Wales
9, Corporation Street, Flint, Flintshire, Wales

William Collier Head Male 1887 34 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Boiler Fireman John Summers Sons Ltd Steel Manufacturers Out Of Work
Frances Collier Wife Female 1882 38 Flint, Flintshire, Wales Home Duties -
Gladys May Smith Step-daughter Female 1904 17 Chester, Cheshire, England Silk Worker Sorter Courtaulds Ltd Silk Manufacturers Out Of Work
Dorothy Smith Step-daughter Female 1906 14 Chester, Cheshire, England Silk Worker Presser Courtaulds Ltd Silk Manufacturers Out Of Work
Martha Collier Daughter Female 1910 11 Flint, Flintshire, Wales - -
Evelyn Collier Daughter Female 1912 9 Flint, Flintshire, Wales - -
Mona Collier Daughter Female 1915 6 Flint, Flintshire, Wales - -
Phyllis Collier Daughter Female 1920 1 Flint, Flintshire, Wales - -
Harriet Lloyd Sister-in-law Female 1888 33 Flint, Flintshire, Wales General Domestic Servant Private
Thomas Lloyd Great nephew Male 1921 0 Holywell, Flintshire, Wales - -

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Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Mar 1915 (>99%)
Collier Mona Lloyd Holywell 11b 357

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Dec 2023 20:22

Posting 1911 for helpers' reference:

Harriet Lloyd
in the 1911 Wales Census
Name Harriet Lloyd
Age in 1911 23
Estimated Birth Year abt 1888
Relation to Head Daughter
Gender Female
Birth Place Flint, Flintshire, Wales
Civil parish Flint
County/Island Flintshire
Country Wales
Street Address 8 Corporation Street Flint
Marital Status Single
Registration district Holywell
Registration District Number 619
Sub-registration district Flint
ED, institution, or vessel 06
Household schedule number 213
Piece 33937
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
John Lloyd 59 Head
Martha Lloyd 58 Wife
Harriet Lloyd 23 Daughter
Edward Lloyd 32 Son
Albert Lloyd 20 Son
Harrold Lloyd 17 Son
Ernest Lloyd 14 Son

highland

highland Report 7 Dec 2023 19:34

Having difficulty finding Harriet Lloyd born 1888 in Flint Flintshire North Wales.
Last reading was the 1911 census where she was single and living with her parents.
Also in the house were here single brothers.
Have looked in deaths and Marriage records for a couple of years thinking I have left some info out!!!
Any advice would be appreciated in the search for Harriet to finish that part of the tree.