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Margaret Roberts b. 1891 (up-date)

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Jun 2024 14:20

I agree that the Welsh-speaking woman in 1911 is unlikely to be the right one.

The one in Haresfinch Road is certainly a possibility
(Mistranscribed as Boberts on Ancestry.)

I've checked out a few Prescot marriages (1911 - 1921) of women named Margaret Roberts.

Follow-up to this one eludes me:

Marriages Jun 1911 (>99%)
Holt Stephen Prescot 8b 1214
Roberts Margaret Prescot 8b 1214

Jink20

Jink20 Report 14 Jun 2024 12:15

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
97, Oxford Street, St Helens, Prescot, Lancashire, England

Persons listed as per SylviaInCanada entry

1911 Census For England & Wales
97 Oxford Street St Helens, St Helens, Lancashire, England

Thomas Brown and family

Margarets mother and father died before 1911 according to the Alistair Cartland Glover Family Tree, which would account for why the family are no longer living at the Oxford Street address

So, I'll ask the question .... with regard to the 1911 Census
Are we to accept that the Margaret Roberts listed in 1911 Census as a servant, born in St Helens, who is bilingual in English and Welsh is the same Margaret born in St Helens to a bricklayer from Doncaster ???

I suppose she could has learned Welsh at some point after the parents died, but is it not more likely that the 1911 Margaret, although born in St Helens, was born to a Welsh speaking parent? Or a link to Wales?

Could this be the Margaret OP is searching for ..................?

1911 Census For England & Wales
49 Haresfinch Road St Helens Lancashire, St Helens, Lancashire, England

Margaret Cundliffe Head Female 76 1835 Private means Lancs St Helens
Margaret Roberts Servant Female 18 1893 Domestic servant Lancs St Helens

Comments and observations invited.



ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Jun 2024 11:38

Follow-through on these..............if you haven't already done so


Marriages Dec 1913 (>99%)
Roberts Margaret Edwards Llanrwst 11b 600
Marriages Sep 1914 (>99%)
Roberts Margaret Evans Llanrwst 11b 541
Marriages Mar 1915 (>99%)
Roberts Margaret Owen Llanrwst 11b 426
Marriages Mar 1916 (>99%)
Roberts Margaret Williams Llanrwst 11b 49[6_]
Marriages Dec 1918 (>99%)
Roberts Margaret Hughes Llanrwst 11b 554
Marriages Dec 1920 (>99%)
Roberts Margaret Owen Llanrwst 11b 736
Marriages Jun 1921 (>99%)
Roberts Margaret Davies Llanrwst 11b 616
Roberts Margaret Jones Llanrwst 11b 613


And these......................

Marriages Jun 1911 (>99%)
Roberts Margaret Prescot 8b 1214
Marriages Mar 1912 (>99%)
Roberts Margaret Owen Prescot 8b 921 S
Roberts Margaret McManus Prescot 8b 912
Marriages Sep 1915 (>99%)
Roberts Margaret Graley Prescot 8b 1718
Marriages Dec 1915 (>99%)
Roberts Margaret Mather Prescot 8b 1522

Another option would be to obtain copy birth cert for exact DoB and search on 1939 using that data

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Jun 2024 09:46

Where have you looked?

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 14 Jun 2024 04:01

I did do a check on GRO, and it does seem like the correct Margaret in 1901 .............

ROBERTS, JOHN RICHARD NAYLOR
GRO Reference: 1884 J Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 08B Page 445

ROBERTS, THOMAS NAYLOR
GRO Reference: 1880 J Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 757

ROBERTS, ALICE MAUD NAYLOR
GRO Reference: 1886 S Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 08B Page 362

ROBERTS, ANN NAYLOR NAYLOR
GRO Reference: 1887 J Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 751

ROBERTS, JANE NAYLOR
GRO Reference: 1889 S Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 696

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 14 Jun 2024 03:58

I found a tree on Ancestry that listed her ......

The tree is under Alistair Cartland Glover Family Tree

He says this is her in 1901 ......


Name Margaret Roberts
Age 9
Estimated Birth Year abt 1892
Relation to Head Daughter
Gender Female
Father Thomas Roberts
Mother Margaret Roberts
Birth Place St Helens, Lancashire, England
Civil parish St Helen
Ecclesiastical parish St Mark
Town St Helen
County/Island Lancashire
Country England
Registration district Prescot
Sub-registration district St Helens

Household members
Name Age
Thomas Roberts 46
Margaret Roberts 45
James Roberts 18
Robert Roberts 16
Annie Roberts 13
Jane Roberts 11
Margaret Roberts 9

and as a servant in 1911 .................

Record details
Name Margaret Roberts
Age in 1911 19
Estimated Birth Year abt 1892
Relation to Head Servant
Gender Female
Birth Place St Helens, Lancashire, England
Civil parish Llanrwst
County/Island Denbighshire
Country Wales
Street Address Gwynfyn Llanrwst North Wales
Marital Status Single
Occupation General Servant (domestic)
Registration district Llanrwst

I have only looked at what he has in his tree, so now over to you to follow it up and see if it is accurate

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 14 Jun 2024 03:44

Is it possible that she died?


All I could find is her birth registration on GRO, which I presume you have ......

ROBERTS, MARGARET NAYLOR
GRO Reference: 1891 D Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 699

Yvonne

Yvonne Report 14 Jun 2024 01:24

Margaret was born in 1891 in St. Helens, Lancashire, to parents Thomas Roberts and Margaret Naylor. I can't find any information, other than her birth. Can anyone help?

Thanks.