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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Mar 2025 01:45

Frederick G Ward
in the 1891 England Census
Name Frederick G Ward
Gender Male
Age 3 [ age 5 on image - correction submitted]
Relationship Son
Birth Year 1888
Father
Thomas H Ward
Mother
Ellen Ward
Birth Place St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Civil parish St Pancras
Residence Place Highgate, St Pancras, London, England
Registration District Pancras
Sub registration district Kentish Town
ED, Institution or Vessel 43
Neighbors
Piece 139
Folio 60
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Thomas H Ward 29 Head
Ellen Ward 28 Wife
Thomas P Ward 4 Son
Frederick G Ward 3 Son [age 5 on image on Ancestry - correction submitted]
John B Ward 3 Son


Frederick's not with his parents in 1901:

Thomas Hardy Ward
in the 1901 England Census
Name Thomas Hardy Ward
Age 38
Estimated Birth Year abt 1863
Relation to Head Head
Gender Male
Spouse Ellen M Ward
Birth Place London, England
Civil parish Beckenham
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Ecclesiastical parish St George
Town Beckenham
County/Island Kent
Country England
Registration District Bromley
Sub-registration district Beckenham
ED, institution, or vessel 11
Neighbors
Piece 688
Folio 131
Page number 21
Household schedule number 133
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Thomas Hardy Ward 38 Head
Ellen M Ward 38 Wife
John B Ward 13 Son
Margaret C Ward 9 Daughter
Robert J Ward 7 Son
Daniel F Ward 5 Son
Samuel H Ward 2 Son
Nellie M Ward 1 Daughter


Parents' marriage:

Marriages Dec 1882 (>99%)
PAINE Nellie Pancras 1b 317
Ward Thomas Hardy Pancras 1b 317


Your grandfather's marriage cert will tell you if Thomas was indeed his father.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Mar 2025 01:33

This would be his birth, if he was indeed born approx Sept 1885:

WARD, FREDERICK GEORGE mmn PAINE
GRO Reference: 1885 D Quarter in PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 126

A brother ??

WARD, JOHN BANDEL mmn PAINE
GRO Reference: 1887 S Quarter in PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 173

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Mar 2025 01:24

Posting for our reference:


Frederick George Ward
in the UK, British Army World War I Service Records, 1914-1920
Name Frederick George Ward
Gender Male
Enlistment Age 30
Birth Date abt 1885
Marriage Date 14 Dec 1918
Marriage Place S Nicholus Church Sandhurst
Document Date 1915
Residence Place 119 Linden Grove, Nunhead SE
Military Date 1915
Regimental Number 6187
Regiment Name London Regiment
Number of Images 5
Form Title Attestation
Family Members (Name) Relation to Soldier
Frederick George Ward
Dorothy Louise Morgan Spouse

On that, he said his age was 30 years, 3 months, as at 8 December 1915., which again means he was born in 1885 - approx September.

At that time he was a "marble mason manager".

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Mar 2025 01:19

According to the 1921 census form, which he completed himself, he was born c1885.

Frederick George Ward
in the 1921 England Census
Name Frederick George Ward
Gender Male
Marital Status Married
Age 35 Years 10 Months
Relation to Head Head
Estimated Birth Year 1885
Birth Place Highgate, London, England
Residence Date 1921
Residence Street Address 57 Ravensbource Rd, Bromley
Residence Place Bromley, Kent, England
Occupation Clerk General Post Office
Occupation Code 800/6
Employer Government
Employer Code 710
Place of Work A F D, G P O London
Number of Children Under 16 2
Inhabited Y
Ward Town
Parliamentary Division Bromley Pb
Registration District Bromley
Registration District Number 42
Sub registration district Bromley
Sub Registration District Number 1
Respondent Mr Ward
Enumeration District Name Bromley Mb
Enumeration District 16
Schedule 69
Schedule Type Code E
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Frederick George Ward 35 Years 10 Months Head
Dorothy Louisa Ward 27 Years 2 Months Wife
Dorothy Mary Ward 4 Years 9 Months Daughter
Frederick Peter Ward 8 Months Son


But if this is his death, he was apparently born c1877-78, as you say - but it depends on what the informant believed to be true


Deaths Mar 1945 (>99%)
Ward Frederick G 67 Maldon 4a 1124

Abby

Abby Report 16 Mar 2025 01:04

as you know his marriage 1915
buy his marriage cert for his fathers name age where hes living and witnesses etc

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 16 Mar 2025 00:28

This is the first time I've posted on Genes for a long time. If you know the mother's maiden name then these are all the births (including mother's maiden name) for Frederick George Ward in 1877 +/- 2 years from the GRO site:-

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
WARD, FREDERICK GEORGE JOHNSON
GRO Reference: 1875 D Quarter in POPLAR Volume 01C Page 706
WARD, FREDERICK GEORGE SPAULL
GRO Reference: 1875 D Quarter in ERPINGHAM Volume 04B Page 68
WARD, FREDERICK GEORGE PLUMB
GRO Reference: 1876 M Quarter in NORTHAMPTON UNION Volume 03B Page 65
WARD, FREDERICK GEORGE HYSON
GRO Reference: 1876 J Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 824
WARD, FREDERICK GEORGE FULLER
GRO Reference: 1876 J Quarter in CAMBRIDGE Volume 03B Page 540
WARD, FREDERICK GEORGE BLAY
GRO Reference: 1876 J Quarter in SHOREDITCH Volume 01C Page 144
WARD, FREDERICK GEORGE -
GRO Reference: 1876 S Quarter in TENDRING Volume 04A Page 317
WARD, FREDERICK GEORGE ASHFORD
GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 06D Page 227
WARD, FREDERICK GEORGE HOPKINS
GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in ST SAVIOUR SURREY Volume 01D Page 179
WARD, FREDERICK GEORGE ROGERS
GRO Reference: 1877 S Quarter in FULHAM Volume 01A Page 272
WARD, FREDERICK GEORGE SUMMERFIELD
GRO Reference: 1877 D Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 589
WARD, FREDERICK GEORGE HALE
GRO Reference: 1877 D Quarter in THIRSK Volume 09D Page 436
WARD, FREDERICK GEORGE OSMOTHERLY
GRO Reference: 1878 M Quarter in OF LEXDEN & WINSTREE Volume 04A Page 395
WARD, FREDERICK GEORGE -
GRO Reference: 1878 M Quarter in SCARBOROUGH Volume 09D Page 364
WARD, FREDERICK GEORGE DIMMER
GRO Reference: 1878 J Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND Volume 02B Page 490
WARD, FREDERICK GEORGE PECK
GRO Reference: 1878 J Quarter in THETFORD UNION Volume 04B Page 414
WARD, FREDERICK GEORGE EVERITT
GRO Reference: 1879 D Quarter in HEADINGTON Volume 03A Page 681
WARD, FREDERICK GEORGE SAMUEL BROWN
GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 401
WARD, FREDERICK GEORGE SWAN BUTLER
GRO Reference: 1879 D Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 367

Hope this helps.

Kath. x

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 16 Mar 2025 00:07

Hello, I'm trying to find any information I can about my paternal grandfather, Frederick George Ward. He was born in late 1877 or 1878, and died in 1944.

I can't find an exact birth record for him, as back then the mother's maiden name was not listed in the records. I can see about half a dozen births that might be his, and I'm wondering how I might go about getting more information.

He married my grandmother Dorothy Morgan in Cranbrook in 1915. Would the marriage certificate have information such as his DOB?

I also know that he served in WWI, and that he worked for the Postal Service in 1920.

Any guidance is much appreciated. Cheers!