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Sylann, I give up!!!!!!!!!!!!…………….you said you hadn’t found Frederick after his mother died, and I posted a possible record…………….

Please don’t post any further threads about this man……..utilise the existing ones where people have spent time trying to assist you

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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1849 (>99%)
Brown John Manchester 20 469 Scan available - click to view
xxxxxxxx GREENALL Fanny Manchester 20 469 Scan available - click to view
Marsden Mary Manchester 20 469 Scan available - click to view
McDermott Mary Manchester 20 469 Scan available - click to view
Potefield James Manchester 20 469 Scan available - click to view
Richardson Elizabeth Manchester 20 469 Scan available - click to view
xxxxxxxx Rogers John Manchester 20 469 Scan available - click to view
Slatter George Manchester 20 469 Scan available - click to view
Whittaker David Manchester 20 469 Scan available - click to view

Thank you but we're back to the name Rogers of Hornby

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Cross Street Newtons Court, Manchester, Lancashire, England

John Taylor Head - Male 60 1811 Laborer Hull, Yorkshire, England
Ruth Taylor Wife - Female 40 1831 Cook Cheshire, England
Charlotte Taylor Niece - Female 12 1859 Scholar Manchr, Lancashire, England
Frederich Hornby Servant - Male 16 1855 Assistant cook Manchr, Lancashire, England

Yes it's possibly my tree Fanny died just after that She was married to a John Rogers 1849 so Henry Rogers is from that marriage not sure about John R not K Possibly from that marriage but Frederick and Foster from Fanny and John Hornby as Frederick's birth certificate didn't have a fathers name hence the Frederick Hornby Rogers I've never found a marriage for JohnHornby and Fanny Greenall but on her death notice it had spouse ??

I'll leave it again may be one day some one from that family will do a tree!

Thank you

From a tree on Ancestry

Birth
31 Jan 1856 • 7 Beck Street, Salford, Lancashire, England

Birth certificate states that Foster Hornby was registered as Foster Hornby Rogers. Was Foster illegitimate as his mother later assumes a relationship with John Hornby?

Marriage
09 Aug 1876 • Ancoats, St Andrew, Lancashire, England

Could be 19 Aug. depending on how you read the certificate Father: John Hornby a Saddler

Spouse: Martha Woodhouse

Parents as per tree

John Rogers
1823–

Fanny Greenhall
1828–

HORNBY, FANNY 33
GRO Reference: 1861 J Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 346


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
13, Cornbrook Street, Chorlton upon Medlock, Chorlton, Lancashire, England

John Hornby Head Married Male 37 1824 Sadler Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Fanny Hornby Wife Married Female 32 1829 - Knutsford, Cheshire, England
Henry R Hornby Son - Male 11 1850 - Manchester, Lancashire, England
John K Hornby Son - Male 9 1852 - Manchester, Lancashire, England
Frederick H Hornby Son - Male 6 1855 - Manchester, Lancashire, England
Forster Hornby Son - Male 5 1856 - Manchester, Lancashire, England

Connected???????????

ROGERS, FOSTER HORNBY GREENHALL
GRO Reference: 1856 M Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 85

Yes, I know it's not who you're looking for.......!!

OK...................is THIS the birth you mention?

ROGERS, FREDERIC HORNBY (MMN) GREENHALL
GRO Reference: 1854 J Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 66

Why are you looking for this person? Is he supposed to be related to you? If so........HOW?

WHO was the MOTHER? In which qtr of 1861 did she die? I presume you mean 1861, although you keep typing 1961 ;-) ;-)

No that isn't him Frederick Hornby Rogers my line
Frederick Hughes Rogers this is the Chemist

Thank you for looking I'll get him one day

Where is the birth record to which you refer?

" His birth said Frederick Hornby Rogers with no father mention"

Please check the dates you are typing..................

No idea what you're trying to find out.........................sorry.

1921 Census Of England & Wales
22, Victoria Road, Hale, Cheshire, England

Frederick Hughes Rogers Head Male 1863 58 Hartford, Cheshire England Pharmacist Employer
Esther Rogers Wife Female 1866 55 Ashley, Cheshire, England Home Duties -
John Rogers Son Male 1897 23 Hale, Cheshire, England Photographic Material Dealer Employer
Ada Knowles Sister-in-law Female 1868 52 Cheshire, England Home Duties -

Sorry I've just seen the censuses you put on I'll take a look and see if I can come up with anything that proves he's the right one

Thats the one I found it on ancestry yes he was born 1954 Salford Don't know if he married I thought he had to an Ellen Peers but that turned out to be wrong as I've said the family vanished after their mum died in 1961 their father turned up in 1881 staying with my grandfather but then nothing I was able to follow my grandfather because he took the Hornby name

I was just hoping this Frederick H was the one

Thanks anyway

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
45, Clifton Street, Stretford, Barton upon Irwell, Lancashire, England

Jane Rothwell Head Widow Female 62 1829 Living on own means Northwich, Cheshire, England
Mary Rothwell Daughter Single Female 30 1861 Governess Ardwick, Lancashire, England
Herbert E Rothwell Son Single Male 26 1865 Mercantile clerk Ardwick, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Wood Servant Single Female 15 1876 General servant Chester, Cheshire, England
Marian J Rothwell Granddaughter - Female 3 1888 - Northwich, Cheshire, England
Frederick H Rogers Visitor Single Male 28 1863 Chemists assistant Hartford, Cheshire, England

Easily found

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Shop, Victoria Road, Hale, Bucklow, Cheshire, England

Frederick H Rogers Head Married Male 38 1863 Chemist & druggist Northwich, Cheshire, England
Esther Rogers Wife Married Female 43 1858 - Ashley, Cheshire, England
Ada Knowles Sister-in-law Single Female 40 1861 - Ashley, Cheshire, England
John Rogers Son - Male 3 1898 - Hale, Cheshire, England
Florence Hale Niece Single Female 21 1880 School board teacher Sale, Cheshire, England

Marriages Jun 1892 (>99%)
Knowles Esther Manchester 8d 347
Rogers Frederick Hughes Manchester 8d 347

OK....................for INFO

First name(s) Frederick H
Country England
Last name Rogers
Raw data Rogers Frederick H. chemist, Victoria road, H
Occupation Chemist
Publication title Lancashire, Manchester, Salford & Suburban, Slater's Directory Pt 4, 1903
Address Victoria Road, H
Record set England Directories
Year 1900-09
Category Directories & social history
County Lancashire
Subcategory Directories & Almanacs
Publisher Slater's
Collections from Great Britain, England


If you've found the above on FMP, you can search on there by address

And you can search on either FMP or Ancestry using the KEYWORD 'Chemist'

I presume he was born in 1854!

WHERE was he born?

Did he marry?

There are numerous Victoria Streets in the Manchester area. Can you be more precise, please